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Amen!

The 9to5Mac article states that the HomePod has AirPlay: "it will still be possible to AirPlay the Spotify app using a nearby iOS device to the HomePod".

So I should be able to airplay my cd ripped iTunes library okay.

Well... that’s a deal-breaker. Most of my music is ripped, and I don’t have AM.

Same here, but I don't think that is correct.

A) it would be a stupid decision

B)Apples website states -

"Peer-to-peer AirPlay requires a Mac (2012 or later) with OS X Yosemite or later, or an iOS device (late 2012 or later) with iOS 8 or later."

"Siri works with Apple Music. Subscription required for Apple Music."
I'm assuming I can steam a playlist from my desktop iTunes library to the Homepod, but I can't use Siri to control iTunes.

I wish there was a clear definitive answer. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
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For sure on that...

As an aside, after I get mine, I'm going to try it out in my car (powered via an inverter) as an experiment and see how it sounds. I might be surprised, assuming it adapts to the environment. Could be too small of a space, though.

Wow that would be interesting! If people can jam (other) car shaking (massive) subs into their cars, I would think there's a good chance of this fitting right in (easily). It could be a really interesting vertical application for this product.

If you follow through with this, please take note of my name and PM me when you write it up. I'd love to know how it worked out. I'm not quite seeing this product for my own home (already well equipped with seemingly comparable features & benefits) but that's interesting... maybe a boat too (in spite of the risk of moisture damage), motor homes, decked out SUV/Vans, etc.
 
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Truly shocking that a $2000 speaker sounds better than a $350 home assistant.

Truly shocking that a $350 device sounds better than $29 echo dot and or $79 variant. Shocking indeed...Yet it constantly compared my members in this forum.

“Echo just sounds awful, bad, crappy..” well no **** it’s $79.

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Btw I don’t own any Echos as I don’t see value in a home assiastant. BUT I did pre order 2 Homepods because I’m more interested in the speakers capabilities at the $350 price point.
 
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Comments are entertaining, no doubt:

1. (i) use Spotify, thus the Homepod sucks and I won't buy it;
2. (i) have more expensive speakers than this, thus the Homepod sucks and I won't buy it;
3. it costs more than what I think it's worth, thus the Homepod sucks and I won't buy it;

If you are so dead set against the Homepod, why bother commenting on a product you obviously don't want? Or is it you secretly want it and you just don't want to admit it?

If I could add a number 4 and 5 they would be:

4. It hasn’t been released and tested by a wide-range of independent reviewers who don’t sign pre-access agreements, so I won’t buy it; and
5. I haven’t heard it myself, so I won’t buy it.
 
To all of you who are so critical of the HomePod's sound; have you even heard it, personally? Most who have, in fact, heard it, are raving about the sound. If I take their words for it, it seems like a great speaker for its price - plus you get siri aspect of it on top of it.

You don't have to experience something to make an inference on the experience. I know if I jump out of a third-story window, that it's going to hurt when I land. As far as HomePod goes, you can judge approximately by the size of the drivers and the size of the enclosure, how it will sound. Speaker design is all about physics, and as a generality, the more air a speaker can move and the easier it can do it, the better it will sound. That being said, I think the HomePod will sound rather good for what it is.


That’s factually incorrect because when others get their HomePods and say they enjoy the quality they will get raked over the coals on here.

See most posts about the X for example. There’s been countless bashing and this attitude that you must be an audiophile to truly enjoy music is crap.

When I enjoy roger waters I am enjoying him as a fan not as someone listening on some high end audio.

That doesn’t make me less of a fan of music nor does it make an audiophile a better fan of music.

I think you've now veered way off course and attributed far more to the comment than it actually said, which again, was saying that the reviewer was either uninformed or a shill.
 
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Frequency response: Apple Hz to Apple kHz, front, plus or minus 2 degrees
Tweeters watt RMS, each: Apple Watts
Woofer Watt RMS: Apple Watts, maximum
Peak Watt RMS: Apple Watts

There is only one reason why Apple keep those specs secret: it's not in their interest to publish them.
Man, I can only imagine how many contrarian posts there’d be if they did.
 
you CAN use a HomePod to play more than just purchased iTunes tracks without a Apple Music subscription, albeit by having to use AirPlay. A constraint, yes, but not a big enough constraint to stop me cancelling my pre-order. YMMV.

If that's true then that's enough for me. If I have my phone with me, I can tell Siri on the phone to play something and it will play on the HomePod over AirPlay. This assumes HomePod isn't in earshot and both the phone and HomePod try to execute the verbal command. How is that kind of verbal conflict going to be resolved? (Actually I don't use Siri to play my music today, I poke around and select something, but just illustrating a scenario.)

If HomePod could use home sharing with Siri integration then Siri could theoretically access anything in my iTunes. However, that isn't promoting Apple Music subscriptions so I wonder if we will ever see that.
 
Ugh the biggest problem I have is choosing what color. I wanted two, but i want it to match by other devices. Problem is I have a silver iphone X (256GB) and a space grey ipad pro (10.5), plus a space gray iMac Pro... not to mention my stainless steel (black) watch. So I ordered two HomePods in White, and two in Space Gray. I'm hoping that will cover my living room sufficiently. Depending on which color is nicest, I'll order more to place in the other rooms.
Get your priorities straight. SMH
 
What are the inputs? Does it have AUX, Ethernet? Or is it just a single power-cable?

Inputs? This is Apple; it doesn’t need to be compatible with any of your non-Apple products because those products don’t generate revenue for Apple. Apple wants you to replace everything in your home with their offerings. And replace those every 2 years when their cheap Chinese batteries die.
 
The 9to5Mac article states that the HomePod has AirPlay: "it will still be possible to AirPlay the Spotify app using a nearby iOS device to the HomePod".

Thanks, I missed that. From that I will gladly interpolate to meaning I can AirPlay from iTunes. However, they said "will" and not "is" so they might not have tried it :)
 
"Just connect your speakers." There in is my biggest concern for this product. If you are not an audiophile than the echo speakers are fine. If you are one than you likely have multiple speakers you switch between based on what you are listening to. Why spend $300+ in a speaker when you could spend $30 + $0 to $10k+ what sounds best to you.

I'm sure they are great for it's size, but I'm not convinced that the selling point will drive sales. This isn't the same as the ipod making iPods mainstream. Echo is already mainstream. They have had multiple Black Fridays pushing their products at the largest stores in the world.

I hope it does well, but Its hard to see how it will.

Right. What sounds good is such a individual thing........having said that, claiming that it sounds like your at a live performance just invalidates the whole review. Thanks for nothing. Since sound from speakers is so individual and people want different quality, a comparison would be nice if not necessary. This sound is equal to bose model xxx or this sounds as good as a two speaker set up of $300 speakers. Then you give readers something to compare to. "sounds like your at a live performance" or "the sound just blew me away" or "IT REALLY KNOCKS YOUR SOCKS OFF" etc is pointless and tells the reader nothing.
My sister thinks the echo dot is fine, for music too!!!!! I on the other hand think the new echo is passable but its incapable of replacing a two speaker setup and I dont consider myself an audiophile. These single speaker things are no better then the huge boomboxes of the 80's........40 year old technology. Come on. Once when I was in high school one of my speakers broke and I was listening to a Beatles album. WTF!!!!! Half the music vanished. It was like a whole new experience. A lot of effort went into the recording of that stuff and it was meant to be heard IN STEREO. You need the separation otherwise its a whole different experience. Ok, I'm sounding like a audiophile, I swear I'm not.
 
Im a Klipsch guy. Total opposite end of the speaker spectrum. This wont compare to a true stereo setup. I may pick one up for the bedroom though. Time will tell

I have Focals myself. ;) In reading this thread, I think I've re-aligned my expectations. I think that folks who listen to music in the ways we do, with the hardware we do can't think about this in the same terms. Earlier today, I was; I couldn't imagine how this could sound right. But, I have to admit, if I was just doing chores in the kitchen upstairs, it might do quite well for the purpose of 'wallpaper' music, or listening to podcasts or news. From that perspective, it may be worth it.
 
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I feel like some audiophiles don’t even enjoy the music because some are too busy trying to hear someone’s breathing on a song or a specific guitar pluck. Seems a little obsessive at times.

It is obsessive. My father was an audiophile. His investment in hardware was the cause of his divorce. He explained why he couldn't settle for lesser hardware or listen to certain genres. Some people's hearing is hyper sensitive to their detriment. There are people with a similar trait, called super tasters, whose tastebuds recognize or amplify flavors that escape an average person. To them, spicy foods can be overwhelming and unpleasant. In comparison, some audiophiles aren't seeking details in the sound, they are trying to minimize, or avoid, irritating sounds that average persons are immune to. For example, my father intentionally clipped the lowest bass frequencies, they literally gave him a headache.

You might ask, why would someone with such a sensitivity even listen to music? Filtered to his requirements, music could be a reprieve from the environmental noise at the end of a day.
 
I feel so left out with things like this. I’m not into music at all these days so a speaker like this really isn’t for me. A cheaper, always listening Siri assistant speaker/microphone is all I’ve wanted. Just a hub to access future home automation devices.
 
Frequency response: Apple Hz to Apple kHz, front, plus or minus 2 degrees
Tweeters watt RMS, each: Apple Watts
Woofer Watt RMS: Apple Watts, maximum
Peak Watt RMS: Apple Watts

There is only one reason why Apple keep those specs secret: it's not in their interest to publish them.

These are not specs that an average consumer is going to care about or understand when purchasing a speaker for background (or in many cases primary) music listening. Are the reviews good? Does it sound good to me? Sold.

As an audiophile I care about this stuff to ensure system and room synergy. The HomePod is really not targeted for that kind of consumer. I'm buying one anyways though because of its potential to be a very good background speaker (and home assistant) in rooms where an audiophile system makes no sense.
 
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"equating HomePod's sound quality to a live performance."

Put this guy in front of some Martin Logans and his head will probably explode. lol, such hyperbole.

Says the guy that still thinks Martin Logans are great.
 
It is obsessive. My father was an audiophile. His investment in hardware was the cause of his divorce. He explained why he couldn't settle for lesser hardware or listen to certain genres. Some people's hearing is hyper sensitive to their detriment. There are people with a similar trait, called super tasters, whose tastebuds recognize or amplify flavors that escape an average person. To them, spicy foods can be overwhelming and unpleasant. In comparison, some audiophiles aren't seeking details in the sound, they are trying to minimize, or avoid, irritating sounds that average persons are immune to. For example, my father intentionally clipped the lowest bass frequencies, they literally gave him a headache.

You might ask, why would someone with such a sensitivity even listen to music? Filtered to his requirements, music could be a reprieve from the environmental noise at the end of a day.

Wow, that's some of the most enlightening text I've read today. :) Thanks for this.
 
I’m not knocking anyone interested in this, but I fail to see the appeal personally. This feels like a me-too product to cash in on something of a fad, and that’s pretty much it.

It does have something of a unique element to it - as do the other home assistant speakers - but it’s not something that’s really all that essential or life changing when most of the intended audience for this speaker have iPhones that can do Siri already, can control apps with a far more powerful screen and can stream or play music to speakers connected via AirPort Express or AppleTV.

There are plenty of Wi-Fi speakers out there. Though more expensive, I think the B&Ws look nicer at least. Siri, I’m just not that into you anyway.
 
I have Focals myself. ;) In reading this thread, I think I've re-aligned my expectations. I think that folks who listen to music in the ways we do, with the hardware we do can't think about this in the same terms. Earlier today, I was; I couldn't imagine how this could sound right. But, I have to admit, if I was just doing chores in the kitchen upstairs, it might do quite well for the purpose of 'wallpaper' music, or listening to podcasts or news. From that perspective, it may be worth it.

I'd love to have put one of these in the bathroom. Unfortunately, I'm not going to buy one because I also wanted it to have a battery so that I could take it outside on the deck or by the fire pit.
 
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You don't have to experience something to make an inference on the experience. I know if I jump out of a third-story window, that it's going to hurt when I land. As far as HomePod goes, you can judge approximately by the size of the drivers and the size of the enclosure, how it will sound. Speaker design is all about physics, and as a generality, the more air a speaker can move and the easier it can do it, the better it will sound. That being said, I think the HomePod will sound rather good for what it is.




I think you've now veered way off course and attributed far more to the comment than it actually said, which again, was saying that the reviewer was either uninformed or a shill.

I haven’t veered off course. There was a post from someone that had these expensive speakers making it seem as if he/she was such an audiophile and that made them so much better. I’ll leave it here though.
 
Says the guy that still thinks Martin Logans are great.

Haha. ML can be great if set up and driven correctly. Therein lies the problem with good sound. Cost means nothing as there is way too much audiophile snake oil out there, but proper set up is the key at any price range. And a good sounding ML system to me might be crap to you, it's all personal taste. Psychology has a big play here.... many audiophiles succumb to "audiophile nervosa" and are never satisfied. Case in point the story earlier about a parent going overboard with his audio habit.
 
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