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I know I just ridiculed the whole Tim vs. Steve thing...

Steve Jobs and Walt Disney were very comparable personalities - charismatic, visionary founders of companies legendary for the quality and creativity of their products. Both have leadership styles that might be considered "Demanding Daddy," people capable of insulting and denigrating subordinates in order to bring out their best. It's a very tricky technique, as they risk simply alienating their subordinates and driving them away (I've worked for a few people who possessed all of the rough edges, with none of the redeeming qualities). If we look at the histories of both companies, we'll find examples of disgruntled ex-employees who couldn't stand the "heat." We tend to ignore those, since the success stories stand so tall. The end justifies the means, and all that. Still, both Walt and Steve spent far more time encouraging and inspiring their staffs than they ever spent browbeating them. Stories of that sort simply don't circulate with the same gossip mill enthusiasm.

To this day, screening rooms at animation studios are known as "sweat boxes," a term coined at Disney to describe the anxiety spawned by Walt's screening room behavior. They use that term at Pixar - tell me Steve wasn't fully cognizant of all of this, and didn't emulate Walt to some extent.

After Walt Disney's death, his company floundered and failed for nearly 20 years. It took the arrival of Michael Eisner to turn things around. Michael was definitely not Walt - his management style is better described as "Imperial." However, soon after arriving at the company, I believe Eisner deliberately emulated Disney in order to gain the respect of the Imagineering department. They were working on a theme park attraction, ExtraTerrorestrial Alien Encounter. Prior to its opening, Eisner was brought in to try it out. Basically, he ripped into the creative team, Walt-style, demanded they do better, and walked out. Imagineering went back to work, and next time the results received Michael's blessing. As far as I know, this was a one-time tantrum, but Imagineering (and everyone else in the corporate rumor mill) got the message loud and clear: Michael Eisner was capable of filling Walt's shoes.

The "problem" with Tim Cook is that there are no equivalent stories. Likely, if he had done the same, it would have been a shock and scandal, as Tim had already spent a successful decade at the company without exhibiting such behavior.

To switch from animation to military examples, Steve was a George S. Patton, Tim is a Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Contrary to opinions often expressed here, Apple has not floundered around after Steve's death. Revenues did not plummet, product reviews did not turn negative, the customers and staff did not abandon ship. The company continues to thrive, in large part because Steve prepared the company for his passing (something Walt did not do). Steve knew exactly who Tim Cook is, and hand-picked him as his successor. He didn't do that with the intention of harming the company he built, to the detriment of his family's shareholdings. It was definitely not, "Après moi, le déluge!"

So get over it, people. The Steve Jobs lead a large company that was on its way to becoming a huge company, and picked someone capable of running a huge company. Leaders of huge companies cannot be as hands-on as are leaders of smaller companies (and Disney, too, was a much smaller company in Walt's day), and are rarely as colorful.
 
I think I'll wait for the Retina HomePod.

:D

Seriously though, why 32x32, when 256x256 would make it more of a classy device?
On the off chance that your question hasn't already been answered, I presume they used a low resolution matrix because a high res one would lose detail anyway once the lights diffuse through the material covering the top.

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What has he done, really? He's approaching 10 years as CEO.

Steve Jobs came back to Apple in 1997 brought it back from the dead, came out with the iMac, the iPod, "created" OS X from scratch and introduced the iPhone by 2007. All in just 10 years and that doesn't even include things like the iBook, the first mainstream portable with integrated wireless and so on.

Hit after hit.

What has Tim Cook done in his soon to be 10 years. 1 failing product. Oh and milking every dollar out of existing products. Not a great record. Those are the facts.
Lets all ignore the fact that steve had 2 failed products, mobile me and the iPod hifi.

You say tim is all for the money, yet forget that steve used to charge $20 for every iOS software update, and $300 for every macOS upgrade, as well as charging $69 for an 8gb usb flash drive.
 
Lets all ignore the fact that steve had 2 failed products, mobile me and the iPod hifi.

You say tim is all for the money, yet forget that steve used to charge $20 for every iOS software update, and $300 for every macOS upgrade, as well as charging $69 for an 8gb usb flash drive.
Don't forget the G4 Cube.
 
It's a Steve Jobs product which has seen almost no improvements in 10 years. the only difference in terms of software (which means actual use) in 10 years is now we have sort of a baby drag and drop. That's it.

And it is not "highly successful" either, sales have gone down for iPad every year. Because they didn't continue to innovate on it with Cook as CEO, as they should have.

I think you're confused about what innovation means. Every new generation of iPhone and iPad is more powerful, more power efficient, and just better than the previous generation. Apple Watch redefined and continues to drive the direction of wearables. iOS 11 is a leap forward in iPad usability. HomePod redefines the speaker. That is all innovation.

Further, the iPad was not a Steve Jobs product. It was an Apple product released during Steve Jobs' amazing second act with Apple. Steve Jobs was an extraordinary business person and human being; however, there would be no modern Apple, iPhone or iPad without Tim Cook and the other members of the extraordinarily talented Apple team whose innovations redefined high tech manufacturing and logistics and brought these amazing, beautifully designed products to global mass markets. This is innovation.

Apple has done extraordinarily well and has become the most valuable company in the world under Tim Cook. These results are unassailable measures of Tim Cook's many talents and contributions. And they are way more authoritative than my opinion or yours.
 
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Exactly my point. It is easier for amazon and google to throw money and improve the sound quality of their products than for Apple to improve Siri (apparently - otherwise they would have done it by now).

Heck - they could even let someone like Harmann Kardon, B&O, bowers Wilkins produce it.

The reason what made this category exciting was that it was a SMART speaker, not just a speaker. You could just hook the echo dot to any speaker now and it could compete with homepod.

I disagree with being able to connect an echo dot to any speaker and it being able to compete with a HomePod. The echo dot does not have the capabilities of a HomePod. While we still don’t know the full extent of HomePod abilities, I think it’s safe to say it will be able to do much more than the echo dot or any other full fledge smart speaker. Just look st the technology Apple has baked inside. This is going to be more than just streaming music or giving simple commands.
 
An example of HomePod working at home would be something like this:

I wake up in the morning, it knows I’m up because of noise levels and moment in my room. HomePod automatically says “good morning Keiron” in a low voice. If I want more dialog I respond with “good morning Siri”

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And in the real worl your HomePod will say it can't understand you and offer to show you a webpage
 
I would like to hear a comparison with the Jony Ive designed home speaker from Harmon/Kardon which let's you play ALL streaming services plus bluetooth, not just Apple music and offers 360° audio.

Harmon/Kardon does nothing but excellent audio stuff.

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  • 6 mid- to high-range 1.5" transducers for accurate, Omni-directional sound and a 4.5” subwoofer for rich, powerful bass
  • Custom, stereo-widening DSP audio technology engineered for room-filling, full frequency sound
  • Built-in Bluetooth feature streams audio from your Bluetooth devices wirelessly
  • Built-in Apple Air Play system with easy set-up for your Apple devices, DLNA for Windows and Android devices, and Spotify Connect
  • Customized Harman Kardon Remote app allows for easy set-up and added connectivity



It also glows in the dark, depending on the volume level which you can change by just touching the metal ring that goes all around the speaker.

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There're so many things wrong with this post I don't know how to begin. Can only conclude speakers is not your things. Kind of like people who never own DSLR but like to talk about what is good photography/camera I guess.
 
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Lets all ignore the fact that steve had 2 failed products, mobile me and the iPod hifi.

You say tim is all for the money, yet forget that steve used to charge $20 for every iOS software update, and $300 for every macOS upgrade, as well as charging $69 for an 8gb usb flash drive.
Ha!

Apple totally ripped off the concept of the Whyd Speaker, it's got the 360° audio as well.

Well, this French Startup is certainly done now.

LOVE THE HEADLINE FROM 2016: "This voice-controlled speaker looks like something Apple would design"


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Oopsswhoaaj... I got heavily criticised here of suggesting so. So we all got this wrong!
Whyd was just too early and only now the time was ripe to launch a (/their) speaker system.
So they should be sued as they copied Apple in advance...
Because, (so to say with Joni) this was something only Apple could have done
 
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Whyd was just too early and only now the time was ripe to launch a (/their) speaker system.
Or: they copied Apple in advance...

Two products that look and work so much alike... that's not a coincidence.

Image Apple had come out with the iPod and it looked exactly like some other music player from a year earlier and had the same concept.

Remember when Apple was really angry, when Samsung had a phone that looked vaguely like an iPhone.
 
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Yesterday, Apple pushed out firmware for its $349 HomePod smart speaker ahead of the device's launch in December, and developer Steve Troughton-Smith has been sharing some interesting tidbits online that he managed to unearth in the code.

Bearing the name "AudioAccessory1,1", the firmware reveals that the HomePod runs a full iOS stack - essentially like an iPhone without a screen - and relies on a shell app called "SoundBoard" to integrate with the device's hardware.

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Troughton-Smith said that HomePod apps are prefixed with "Air" in the firmware, but that there currently appears to be no provision for third-party apps or extensions in the OS shell.

In addition to revealing that the device will include Accessibility features like VoiceOver, Troughton-Smith also found references to an LED matrix, possibly relating to the area on the top of the speaker that with the right density could display shapes and/or symbols.

Plus and minus symbols and a Siri button are known to be on the top of the device, so the existence of an LED matrix could potentially present additional information to the user, such as icons or a graphic equalizer.


Oddly enough, the developer also found that the HomePod is identified as an iPhone SE in the iTunes Store.

Apple is sure to make further changes to the software that runs the audio speaker before it ships in December, so we'll likely have to wait until then for the full lowdown on its functionality. In the meantime, you can learn more about the device by checking out the MacRumors HomePod roundup.

Article Link: HomePod Firmware Reveals Further Details on Apple's Smart Speaker
Can someone explain why Apple is pushing out updates for a product that won't exist for months? Have they ever done something like this before?
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I would agree with that, but in interviews Cook compares it to iPod and iPhone. Saying we don't need to be first, when we are the best. But this isn't the best.



What has that to do with the speaker?
Didn't see the original comment but I'm assuming the commenter is referring to the AirPod as a sort of trojan. Once millions getting into homes, Apple will release a devkit or some cool new set of features that flips the narrative on the rest of the smart speaker industry. I don't think Apple will sell enough or that they even care enough about this product to pull off such a feat but I still would like to see them try.
 
Apple doesn't have clear strategies with products anymore.

Everything that Cook releases is vague, just like Apple Watch where they completely changed the interface, the marketing and targeting multiple times and they will do the same with HomePod. They're not thought out products.

It's more like, let's realease it and see what happens.

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PLUS it feels like they are already behind, right from the start. Everybody is going to screens to display additional information. Just a music speaker that only works with Apple Music and with no real display for 349 plus taxes, I don't see it being a big hit.

We'll see.


Yup... Apple was behind right from the start entering the smartphone market, tablet market, and smart watch market.

There are a ton of possibilities with HomePod, far beyond a Sonos clone. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see those possibilities. Still, don't expect Cook to publicly share what those are before it's released.
 
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With an internal name like audio accessory, it looks like you need an iPhone to use the HomePod because it isn't a stand alone device.
 
Then you're out of luck because it's AirPlay or through iCloud only. I have Apple TV and I can't wait to test this setup.
I have apple tv. My concern is when i'm playing video games on t.v ex: ps4, I'm wondering if it will work.
 
No of course not, but he had a GIANT hit every few years.

And iPod Hifi is actually a great example of a product that didn't do anything better than the competition and that's why it flopped.

HomePod is EXACTLY the same product (exactly the same price as well $349) as iPod Hifi, just that now instead of plugging in your iPod, you turn on Apple Music.

Whenever Apple has tried to sell a product solely on brand, it failed.

Whenever they put the very best technology and design together, plus made it affordable enough it was a big hit.

EXACTLY? Yes, if one suffers from having a limited imagination with respect to potential, I suppose that's true.

Others are able to see far beyond.
 
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Apple doesn't have clear strategies with products anymore.

PLUS it feels like they are already behind, right from the start. Everybody is going to screens to display additional information. Just a music speaker that only works with Apple Music and with no real display for 349 plus taxes, I don't see it being a big hit.

We'll see.

What exactly isn't clear about a hifi wifi connected speaker?
 
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