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Cmon people, Apple decided to attack High End Stereo and home theater setups with 349 bucks gadget playing MP3 music.
That's easy win for them :)
 
Beating the Echo? Big deal. Beating the Sonos? Ok. You have my attention.
This is my sentiment also. Plus, I don't use music services at all and so a Sonos replacement has to be able to access my FLAC library on a NAS box. Even if that could be done, I don't see the HomePod ever meeting my use case because Siri would probably be useless running against the library's meta-data. e.g. could it choose a performance of a Bach chamber piece by a particular string ensemble?
 
Does it not bother anyone that it is not portable? I understand echo isn't but this is twice the price of it. It could have had a base station to charge and then could be moved around similar to a bose soundlink mini II.
 
I have Apple Music but prefer listening to music on vinyl. I think this would be good for my bedroom though.

I'll ask Santa.
 
With an A8 chip, Apple could allow for much more functionality.

I would hazard a guess that they will be..give them time. Look at literally every other device they have produced (well, except maybe ear buds)...over time more functionality was added to them often without extra cost to the user.
 
Does your five channel Martin Logan Electro Static System + Subwoofer cost less than 349$ ?
Nope but I'd still rather his setup ;). I don't have a Google Home or Echo and don't plan on getting a smart speaker. At the $349 price point, I will probably never get a HomePod. It does look cool though.
 
Does it not bother anyone that it is not portable? I understand echo isn't but this is twice the price of it. It could have had a base station to charge and then could be moved around similar to a bose soundlink mini II.

HomePod 2 buddy... assuming this one sells well enough.

iPad 1 launched without a front-facing camera. Absolutely everyone had to have one and besides, a front-facing camera made zero sense on a tablet. Then, iPad 2 rolled out with a front-facing camera... and everyone had to upgrade because it made no sense for a tablet to NOT have a FaceTime camera.;)
 
See, this is what I didn't get about all the "gee, its double the price of the echo"-rants yesterday. It's a speaker -- the value is entirely depended of the sound. And from the descriptions listed here, it actually seems like a good deal!
 
Yes, but since that's NOT an Apple product, it's automatically inferior to this without even a listen.

Don't you know how things work around here? Apple could stick their logo on a bag of dirt and that dirt would be immediately anointed as the finest dirt on the planet.

And challenging the dirt as being no better than any other dirt would get you tagged a troll. ;)

Suppose you don't have room for 2 speakers and a sub?
 
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Does it not bother anyone that it is not portable? I understand echo isn't but this is twice the price of it. It could have had a base station to charge and then could be moved around similar to a bose soundlink mini II.
I'm guessing the woofer inside draws too much power? Is the comperable Sonos machine portable?
 
While I'm glad Apple rolled out one of these (mostly on hope that it somewhat presses them to make significant investments in "catching up" Siri), I suspect we're only about 2 days MAX away from the usual crowd rallying hard around how quality of sound is paramount as part of being able to now spin all smart speaker competition as junk.

Of course, some of these same people were likely arguing how quality of sound is much less important than convenience when the iPhone 7 launch was being spun as pressing "the future" of bluetooth audio... which does require one to sacrifice quality of sound to go that way.

So here, quality of sound will be almost all important. There, quality of sound was not very important.

It reminds me of when having a front-facing camera on iPad 1 was spun as making no sense whatsoever... until iPad 2 was rolled out with FaceTime and then everyone HAD to upgrade for that terrific feature.

Or how big-screen phones were abominations, fragmentation, "one handed use" & "pants with bigger pockets" until Apple rolled out bigger-screen phones to record sales and "best iPhone ever."

Or how nobody needed a 1080p :apple:TV while Apple still clung to 720p MAX until Apple rolled one out and then all the anti-1080p arguments just evaporated... only to be recycled and used against the idea of a 4K :apple:TV in more modern :apple:TV threads... until Apple rolls out a 4K version upon which I expect a complete evaporation of the anti-4K arguments (again).

And on and on.

Does quality of sound matter most? And if so, why don't we care as much about it elsewhere in the ecosystem? IMO, for a product that is most notably a speaker, quality of sound should matter most, so that's a solid win for Apple if this speaker does turn out to produce better sound than the competition. So of course, quality of sound should matter elsewhere too, meaning "the future" is not a very good future until is can at least get toe-to-toe on quality of sound that it's trying to replace (by necessary force per some). Too bad "the future" couldn't have this same focus on quality of sound BEFORE "being forced" upon us. IMO, that pill would have been much easier to swallow if the quality of sound would have at least been as good as the "antiquated" it is trying to replace.

Nevertheless, rah-rah... quality of sound matters again (for this product).;)

Sound quality is important with the HomePod because it's a stationary home device. If I'm out of the house I don't mind sacrificing some sound quality for convenience. Valuing convenience on the go and quality at home doesn't make you a hypocrite if that's what you're suggesting.
 
And you have some excellent speakers, too. SONOS is still the "go to" speaker for those who don't feel the need to talk to a computer. (Personally, I prefer the Sonos controller software instead of fighting with Siri to get it to play the right stuff).

I agree. I don't really feel the need to talk to my speakers but I have a feeling my wife would love to be able to. She's always got her hands full and I'm sure being able to dictate would be easier for her. I was planning on getting an Echo thingy when it gets sonos support.
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Same here. Those comparing the HomePod to Echo are missing the point. Sonos is the competition.

Where Sonos will likely keep the edge is the breadth of devices. I have Sonos standalone amp and pre-amp models. I can’t see Apple offering competitors to these. Connected home audio may just require a paradigm shift in thinking - multiple standalone speaker pods vs HiFi speakers or in wall/ceiling speakers.

and now with the sub being $100 off... so tempted.
 
For Audio, the HomePod does not beat the pants off the $39 Echo Dot, which can be plugged into far better speakers than the HomePod.

Are these far better speakers free? Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges.

I'm not going to compare my Apple TV hooked up to my floor standers and say that the Apple TV beats the pants off the HomePod - that would be stupid.

That's why I said the real headline is that the HomePod sounds better than a comparatively priced Sonos PLAY:3. On top of the PLAY:3 it also has assistant side of things.
 
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Suppose you don't have room for 2 speakers and a sub?
I haven't put this product down... only the arguments that this is equivalent to a real 2.1 stereo system.

If you don't have room for a 2.1 system, I'm also not arguing that you should get one. But if space is that tight, perhaps just use headphones with an iDevice, rather than give away precious space for one of these too.

OR, buy one of these if you like it. It seems like a nice smart speaker.
 
If anybody thinks that one 4" woofer and 5 or 7 tweeter would produce stereo sound, I don't even know what to say.

Stereo sound is two channels. Seven tweeters (each with their own individual amplifiers) + subwoofer + an SoC controlling audio beamforming is more than enough to produce stereo sound. That doesn't mean the experience is the same as a fixed system with speakers that are physically separate from each other, but the idea that you're not going to experience stereo sound with the HomePod doesn't make any sense.
 
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Once again Apple is late to the party and offering nothing groundbreaking with this.

I have Sonos for my music and Siri on my iPhone (and I get annoyed enough at Siri not working on my phone). So why would I spend $350 to shout angrily across the room?
 
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I don't imagine a real stereo effect is possible since it disperses sound in 360 degrees. I believe the multiple-devices per room is simply for larger rooms where you may encounter uneven sound levels (particularly at parties, etc.).

I agree, and how about satellite mounts.. being agains the wall? will greatly affect the sound
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I used Siri this morning and wanted to throw my phone against the wall.


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