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Ahead of the HomePod mini launching next week, Apple has revealed that it will release a Death Star that can be controlled using Siri.

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While many customers may find AppleCare+ unnecessary for the Death Star, those with planets or young civilisations may want to consider purchasing coverage.
"Hey Siri. Destroy Alderaan"
"Destroying Alabama now."
 
Surprised isn't the right word, but I am surprised they even offer applecare on these. Disappointed! That's the word I was thinking of.
 
No. I live in the real world where you will never find perfection 100% of the time.

Don't like Apple's environmental policies? Then vote with your wallet and currency purchasing tech products from another company that has a better total environmental record. Easy.

There is also nothing wrong with pointing out the fallacy of a company hiding its greed under the guise of "environmentalism". You don't get to choose how others voice their displeasure, be it with their wallet or message board posts.
 
Apple is making some very stupid decisions lately. They used to be premium products because they worked flawlessly. Now they’re just over priced. This device’s value proposition is Siri. Siri gets worse every iteration and I hear it’s even more terrible on HomePod. No buy
You need to chill. Secondly if Apple made such "stupid decisions" they wouldn't be a trillion dollar valuation company and one of the world's largest. Instead they would be just a plain old forum member with no money on a tech site complaining about companies making stupid decisions.
 
Some of the comments here are rather comical.
How much time and effort would it cost to fix a HomePod mini?

Ithe exterior fabric is damaged, do they have an option to replace that in store? What about the internal parts?

The fact that there’s an upfront price for any repair is pretty good. The fact that it costs 80% of the cost of the product simply shows that replacing key parts of the product isn’t as simple as some people would like.
I see it as Apple designing products in a way that make them almost impossible to repair let alone upgrade.

They've been moving in this direction over the past decade+ while fighting Right To Repair legislation.

They're doing this to protect their sales and margins, IMO.
 
Some of the comments here are rather comical.
How much time and effort would it cost to fix a HomePod mini?


Ithe exterior fabric is damaged, do they have an option to replace that in store? What about the internal parts?

The fact that there’s an upfront price for any repair is pretty good. The fact that it costs 80% of the cost of the product simply shows that replacing key parts of the product isn’t as simple as some people would like.

It could also suggest that Apple have priced the product itself rather competitive. I doubt we’d have these same complaints if the repair was $79 but new ones were $149
Come man, clearly Apple should find a way to design the same slick product that people want to buy and ALSO magically make it repairable for $14 + tax.
 
I see it as Apple designing products in a way that make them almost impossible to repair let alone upgrade.

They've been moving in this direction over the past decade+ while fighting Right To Repair legislation.

They're doing this to protect their sales and margins, IMO.
Well, you're wrong.

They're designing products that people want, that meet a certain level of quality and excellence, and that comes with tradeoffs. Namely, repairability. Its is very, very, very, very, very easy to see if you're not willfully dense, that repairability is something that needs to be specifically designed for, which cripples every other aspect of the design before it has even started. In order to make these great products, repairability cannot and should not be a priority. Instead Apple has focused on recycling, which has far greater net positive than repairability. Apple products are made from a lot of recycled material, and Apple can recycle virtually every component of every product that is turned in to them.

The cry for repairability comes from 2 camps: Repair shops, and cheapskates who want to fix the same vacuum for 20 years.
 
what is the repair cost of a google mini? opps, just replace it
Google will make sure you get a new one for next to nothing - - your data is too valuable to them to have you offline for long.
 
Not surprising. It's a sub-$100 smart speaker. You'll find similar with the Google and Amazon devices too. Cheap consumer electronics are rarely repaired and more generally just replaced.
 
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AppleCare+ is the new must-purchase accessory with any Apple hardware these days. Little bit annoying.
Honestly, when was the last time you had a device like such fail. We're talking about something that sits on your shelf. Do you have a warranty on your stereo speakers?

The reality is that this type of thing rarely fails. If they do, they do so within the first year of ownership, when they're covered by manufacturer warranty.

Seems it's more that people don't consider if they actually need a warranty on a product that's not moved around and has very very little chance of failure. A warranty makes sense on a laptop that's moved around frequently, taken outside the home, and has moving internal parts. But the failure rate of a smart speaker is silly small.
 
The cry for repairability comes from 2 camps: Repair shops, and cheapskates who want to fix the same vacuum for 20 years.
Wanting to repair something is not a cheapskate move. If my vacuum can last 20 years with regular small repairs, is that not better for everybody concerned? Except the vacuum manufacturer.

Apple want you to buy buy buy every year. They aren't really concerned about the environment.
 
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There is also nothing wrong with pointing out the fallacy of a company hiding its greed under the guise of "environmentalism". You don't get to choose how others voice their displeasure, be it with their wallet or message board posts.

And there's nothing wrong with me pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the many who all of sudden become environmentalists when posting about Apple and its products, yet without a second's thought reflexively purchase Echo Dots, Samsung TVs, google Home Mini's, Sangean radios, Anker accessories, Canon/Nikon point-n-shoot cameras, Panasonic mini-stereos, HP laserwriters, LG phones, Fitbit watches, GE microwave ovens, Norelco savers, and on and on inexpensive consumer products that end up in a landfill because they're too expensive to repair. Apple will take back products for responsible recycling on their dime - how about the companies mentioned above?
 
If your power cord gets damaged, it's a whole new unit. If the fabric rips, it's a whole new unit. Cable inside becomes loose... guess what? Whole new unit!
How many times a year do you damage the power cord of, say, your toaster? Or do you plug it in and never have a problem with the power cord throughout the lifetime of the toaster, like most everyone else? Fabric rips? Why are you playing catch with it? The designed use is, you plug it in and set it on the counter or table, and talk to it. Do you often har inanimate objects merely by talking to them?
 
Those thinking AppleCare is unnecessary for these seem to forget that the original HomePod had issues developing a clicking/popping sound for no explainable reason. I didn't buy AppleCare on mine and the problem developed. No AppleCare, so no repair option.
 
But Apple is claiming to be environmentally friendly. If your power cord gets damaged, it's a whole new unit. If the fabric rips, it's a whole new unit. Cable inside becomes loose... guess what? Whole new unit!

But don't worry, the ice caps are doing good because we didn't get a charger with our new iPhones.
not sure why anyone is surprised. they are all about the money grab...even down to the $20 usb c charging block.
 
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Wanting to repair something is not a cheapskate move. If my vacuum can last 20 years with regular small repairs, is that not better for everybody concerned? Except the vacuum manufacturer.

Apple want you to buy buy buy every year. They aren't really concerned about the environment.
No, it isn't, because you've wasted tremendous amounts of valuable time fixing an old vacuum that, even when fixed, does not work 1/4 as well as a new one that costs $89. You've won nothing. Instead you've lost lots of time on repairs and using older inefficient products.
 
But Apple is claiming to be environmentally friendly. If your power cord gets damaged, it's a whole new unit. If the fabric rips, it's a whole new unit. Cable inside becomes loose... guess what? Whole new unit!

But don't worry, the ice caps are doing good because we didn't get a charger with our new iPhones.
You're forgetting, as many do, the importance of recyclability. Apple is a master of recycling, and they'll be doing the same with these. Whole new unit? Who cares. Your busted one is about to become a refurb model.

They also are clearly selling these with razor thin margins and would rather you buy AppleCare+ so they can just recycle yours and hand you a new one for very little money.

They are also clearly heavily incentivizing AC+.

This is also (thankfully) a capitalistic society in which they have to make money in order to participate in all of the amazing environmental advancements they are engaging in.

It is such a small, inexpensive product, that this is basically there to get you to repair it ($79) instead of buy a new one ($99) because it's a little bit cheaper, which, you guesses it, is good for the environment. They could have said it's non-repairable, since it basically is, but instead they're willing to hand you a replacement for a 20% discount.
 
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Wanting to repair something is not a cheapskate move. If my vacuum can last 20 years with regular small repairs, is that not better for everybody concerned? Except the vacuum manufacturer.

Apple want you to buy buy buy every year. They aren't really concerned about the environment.
I'd say Apple does care about the environment, but like all of us, they're in business to exist. They certainly seem to have a much better commitment to minimizing environmental impact than most companies, but as always, those who try to do the most attract the most criticism for not doing more (just like habitual liars aren't held to the same high ethical standards as the usually-honest).

The best thing any of us could do for the environment is to end the dominance of humanity on earth - don't procreate, don't take steps to live longer lives, demolish and safely dispose of our presence... Give the world back to the other species. Since very few of us seem to be willing to do that, everything else is relative. We have enough trouble doing the right thing for members of our own species; we certainly aren't going to give it all up for the sake of other species.

Yes, repairing products to extend their useful life tends is more environmentally sound than simply tossing them in the landfill. However, there are also environmental costs to repair - the manufacture and shipping of replacement parts, etc. Building products for repairability nearly always costs additional resources. One has to balance the cost of repairability against the benefits (eg. more metal for screws, less petroleum for adhesives). Those equations are not always easy. Some people will still toss their stuff into landfills, even if the repair cost is minimal. Will the added repairability-related resources pay off for the majority of units manufactured, or will most be retired without needing repair? If repairs are not required, then the resources invested in repairability are wasted.

One could argue that Apple should charge less for repairs in order to encourage people to repair those items rather than send to landfill. However, people dedicated to minimizing their environmental impact should be willing to pay the fair cost of repair, and labor is a substantial part of any repair. Demands for lower prices tend to put negative pressure on wage rates, which has its own human cost.

And so it goes. People want the world boiled down to simple, Tweet-length arguments and solutions. However, we've built a very, very complex world.
 
You're forgetting, as many do, the importance of recyclability. Apple is a master of recycling, and they'll be doing the same with these. Whole new unit? Who cares. Your busted one is about to become a refurb model.

They also are clearly selling these with razor thin margins and would rather you buy AppleCare+ so they can just recycle yours and hand you a new one for very little money.

They are also clearly heavily incentivizing AC+.

This is also (thankfully) a capitalistic society in which they have to make money in order to participate in all of the amazing environmental advancements they are engaging in.

It is such a small, inexpensive product, that this is basically there to get you to repair it ($79) instead of buy a new one ($99) because it's a little bit cheaper, which, you guesses it, is good for the environment. They could have said it's non-repairable, since it basically is, but instead they're willing to hand you a replacement for a 20% discount.
it's a heavy push for AC bc it's pure revenue and the money they get from AC is way greater than what they pay out. this isn't about "recycling" this is about money in their pockets. why do you think AC only goes for 2 years? bc chances of the item breaking in 2 years is pretty low. it's just like insurance...insurance is in business to rake in the money. that's why they pop up on every street corner.
 
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