HomePod: one step closer to the inevitable Apple TV set?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by animatedude, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. animatedude macrumors 65816

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    I know i want the 10th anniversary Apple TV set with shiny Apple logo, and for the ultimate experience can i add two HomePods to my purchase, please?

    I'm just saying.....
     
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  3. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    At one time I thought it would be cool, but honestly the internal ATV hardware is going to be outdated before the screen. Not to mention I'm sure Apple would charge through the nose for it.
     
  4. 2010mini macrumors 68040

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    Margins for TV sets are really low because of how long consumers hold on to them. It's one of the reasons TV manufacturers try to push new techs (gimmicks) to the public. Stuff that has no broad support (3Dtv anyone??)

    It's easier to put out and sell an updated set top box. Than an entire new TV set.
     
  5. Tritto macrumors member

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    Who really needs an Apple Television? My TV is basically used as a dumb screen that displays content from my ATV4, 2xPVRs and a PS3. It doesn't even output the audio, as that is routed direct to my amp. If it didn't have a tuner it wouldn't make a scrap of difference to me. I just can't see how an Apple Television would provide any benefits.
     
  6. CarlJ macrumors 68020

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    A real Apple television would be awesome the day you bring it home. It would suck, a year and a half later, when the screen part was still great, but the built-in ATV part had now been eclipsed by a newer, more powerful / more capable model. I can see them releasing a 60-100" screen, some day, if they run out of more pressing things to design/build, but not one with an integrated ATV box.
     
  7. mac.cali macrumors 65816

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    I'd be in for a new tv on a yearly basis if I could trade in the old one easily. Nowadays it's harder to sell a used tv due to size and technology.
     
  8. spice weasel macrumors 65816

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    An actual Apple television set is completely unnecessary, given how small devices such as the Chromecast, Amazon Fire stick, or even the larger Apple TV box currently are. What Apple should have done was create a soundbar with Siri and Apple TV functionality baked in. There's no reason why the HomePod should be a connected speaker alone, when it can easily be the center of the connected/smart home entertainment hub, with ability to build out greater functionality with Home Kit.
     
  9. CarlJ macrumors 68020

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    What would be their motivation to take the old one back? It's used, and last year's tech, if they re-sell it then it's competing against the new screens they'd be selling, and if they, hmm, recycle it, they're out most of what they paid you as trade-in value.
     
  10. rolsskk macrumors 6502

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    A soundbar is probably the last thing next to an actually TV that Apple should make, as it greatly limits their customer base to those who'd use a soundbar and those who have a space for one.
     
  11. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    Who doesn't have space for at least a sound bar? I'd never use one, as I prefer at least a proper 5.1 setup. But not even enough space for a sound bar? TV speakers are garbage.
     
  12. rolsskk macrumors 6502

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    People who mount them on a wall, or other situations where space is limited.
     
  13. animatedude thread starter macrumors 65816

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    So HomePod doesn't provide 5.1 at least?
     
  14. CarlJ macrumors 68020

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    The HomePod can't, by definition, provide traditional 5.1, which requires speakers in five separate places in the room. It's entirely likely it can play 5.1 encoded material in an "interesting" way, just as some sound bars will try to bounce what should be rear channel sound off your side walls - indeed, the HomePod is said to take measure of the acoustic space when first connected (playing sounds and listening to the echos), to aid in doing such things, but how the results sound when watching movies is something we don't know yet. The thought has crossed my mind of buying a stereo pair of HomePods, something they are said to handle well, but I wonder if Apple might eventually make "HomePodMini", or some such, for rear channel use.
     
  15. maflynn Moderator

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    No profit margins in TVs, add in Apple's premium pricing and people will be unwilling to spend $$ on an Apple TV set when they can save a boat load of money on a Samsung
     
  16. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    Except this year of course, with their ridiculously overpriced QLED displays. $6k for an edge-lit 65" display? No thank you. Not when you can get a Sony Z9D with a ~638 zone FALD panel for $5k. Samsung's QLED prices are around where I'd expect Apple to price a TV if they made them, way too much.
     
  17. MH01 Suspended

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    Nope. Music speakers and sound bars are two different beasts. You don't want a homepod for TV
     
  18. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    To be fair, you don't want a sound bar either.
     
  19. d21mike macrumors 68040

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    Why? i would think it would be better then the TV Speakers, right? I have 8 Apple TV's. 2 have sound bars. I am planning to use HomePods for some of the other TV's. I.E. Will be used to play music and also TV Audio. And as SIRI Speakers similar to the purpose of Alexa. Seems to be a good fit.
     
  20. E.Lizardo macrumors 68000

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    Yep. I'll never understand why people can't get this through their head.

    A. How many Atv models have there been in the last,say six years?
    B. How long to you normally keep a television set?

    In no time you'd be left with a VERY expensive monitor with a built in obsolete Atv,and you'd STILL have an Atv box plugged into it.
     
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    It would be awesome but I upgrade my TV each decade!
     
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    Hard to find a TV that is not smart. Every manufacture, adding a streaming box insided their TV's. Why not make it a good one? Apple needs to not only make a really smart TV, but also license to all TV manufacturers. Amazon trying this approach with their FireTV and Ruku also going in that direction. TV's are churning at a much faster rate then in the past as cost come down and more features added. Why not Apple TV, a quality product?
     
  23. 2010mini macrumors 68040

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    Problem is thise "smart" tvs aren't really smart. Support for them a abysmal. Licensing to other manufacturers is a great way to lose control of quality. And as I said before.... the margins are too low. Technology changes too fast for a product consumers will not upgrade every year.
     
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    I just hope we get a more powerful version with more storage, looking to upgrade form the ATV 3 but have a feeling they could release the 5 this year
     
  25. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000

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    Personally my money is on a launch at the Fall iPhone event.
     

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