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Honda this week introduced the 2021 Accord with upgraded styling and tech features, including wireless CarPlay and Android Auto integration on the higher-end EX-L and Touring trims, accessible through an 8-inch touchscreen display.

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Wireless CarPlay works over Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, eliminating the need for the iPhone to be connected to the infotainment system with a Lightning cable. Together with wireless charging, these features free up the USB ports in the vehicle, which have been moved to the front of the center console for easier access.

Hyundai has also added wireless CarPlay and Android Auto to the 2021 Santa Fe, on models that are not equipped with navigation. Wired CarPlay and Android Auto remain standard on navigation-equipped models. The vehicle is now equipped with a larger 8-inch touchscreen, an upgrade from the 7-inch display in previous models.

In addition to Honda and Hyundai, wireless CarPlay is available in select vehicles sold by Ford, GM, Chrysler, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz. Alpine and Pioneer also offer aftermarket wireless CarPlay systems for self installation.

CarPlay‌ is Apple's in-car platform that enables drivers to access a range of iPhone apps from the dashboard, such as Messages, Apple Maps, Apple Music, Podcasts, Overcast, Spotify, Pandora, WhatsApp, and Downcast. Since iOS 12, third-party navigation apps like Google Maps and Waze have also been supported.

The 2021 Accord went on sale at Honda dealerships in the United States earlier this week, with pricing starting at $31,090 for a trim equipped with wireless CarPlay. The 2021 Santa Fe will arrive at Hyundai dealerships in the United States by the end of the year, but pricing was not disclosed in the press release.

Article Link: Honda and Hyundai Rolling Out Wireless CarPlay to Select 2021 Vehicles, Including Accord and Santa Fe
 

AppleFan91

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Wireless CarPlay was always the most obvious future. I don’t know why most car makers didn’t embrace it from the beginning. Soon we are going to have a bunch of older cars CarPlays incompatible with iPhones that no longer have a physical plug in.

I have a 2019 Altima and this is my fear of next years iPhone is portless. MagSafe fixes a lot of concerns with wireless charging but CarPlay? I’m assuming a Bluetooth dongle will have to be made?
 

jonen

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Just bought a 2020 Santa Fe last week. I don't even want to do additional research to find out if I'm hardware limited for any potential future of wireless CarPlay...
 

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Wireless CarPlay was always the most obvious future. I don’t know why most car makers didn’t embrace it from the beginning. Soon we are going to have a bunch of older cars CarPlays incompatible with iPhones that no longer have a physical plug in.
My guess is that it costs more to implement, and the user experience is actually quite dismal. Wireless CarPlay does not always work as well as Wired does, and wireless charging in cars is only just now starting to become a thing...no one enjoys wireless CarPlay and arriving somewhere with their phone dead.

The phone really does need to still be charging while using CarPlay, so unless you have the complete experience of wireless charging + wireless CarPlay...you're better off with with Wired. And that has been the case for the years.
 

Bornee35

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I have a 2019 Altima and this is my fear of next years iPhone is portless. MagSafe fixes a lot of concerns with wireless charging but CarPlay? I’m assuming a Bluetooth dongle will have to be made?
I think the handshake of credentials is over Bluetooth but then uses a wifi access point for data transmission.
 
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mondaiguy

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What is the audio quality like over Wireless CarPlay? Last time I checked, Bluetooth audio still sucks in comparison to USB, and could be one of the reasons Apple and car manufacturers didn't focus on Wireless from the get-go.
 

CWallace

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The phone really does need to still be charging while using CarPlay, so unless you have the complete experience of wireless charging + wireless CarPlay...you're better off with with Wired. And that has been the case for the years.

My 2020 Hyundai Sonata Limited does have a Qi charger, which I do not currently use since CarPlay is wired-only so my phone chargers that way. So it will be interesting to see if the 2021 Sonata adds Wireless CarPlay.
 

Rychiar

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be nice if they gave a crap about their buyers. these cars have all had wifi and Bluetooth for 5+ years and could all be updated to have it....
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They need an adapter that will let older cars provide wireless car play
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AnorexicPig

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My guess is that it costs more to implement, and the user experience is actually quite dismal. Wireless CarPlay does not always work as well as Wired does, and wireless charging in cars is only just now starting to become a thing...no one enjoys wireless CarPlay and arriving somewhere with their phone dead.

The phone really does need to still be charging while using CarPlay, so unless you have the complete experience of wireless charging + wireless CarPlay...you're better off with with Wired. And that has been the case for the years.

This is false. I have been using wireless CarPlay in my 2018 M3 for last 2 years and it works flawlessly.
 

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This is false. I have been using wireless CarPlay in my 2018 M3 for last 2 years and it works flawlessly.
Nope, it isn't "false" it is exactly WHY Wireless CarPlay has not existed outside BMW and Mini for years after its introduction. It costs more to implement, and the user experience is headache that manufacturers don't want to deal with.

It has potential to improve.
 

2010mini

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Just bought a 2020 Santa Fe last week. I don't even want to do additional research to find out if I'm hardware limited for any potential future of wireless CarPlay...

there are wireless CarPlay dongles available right now.
 
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ignatius345

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Maybe I'm missing something, but anytime I'm going to be driving for a bit I'm going to want to charge my phone anyway. I guess if the car had a wireless charge pad installed then you could just put your phone down onto it and have it all in one go? But honestly I don't feel like plugging my phone in is such a huge deal.
 

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For those complaining about a port-less iPhone not working with their wired CarPlay, there is already an adapter: https://carplay2air.com/ (I am not affiliated with this at all, but I have looked at it.)

I have not used it, as I somewhat prefer wired CarPlay in my Volt. My wife's BMW has wireless CarPlay, and it's random which phone of ours it picks, and sometimes, I don't want it to do CarPlay!
 

MrMojo1

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Wireless CarPlay was always the most obvious future. I don’t know why most car makers didn’t embrace it from the beginning. Soon we are going to have a bunch of older cars CarPlays incompatible with iPhones that no longer have a physical plug in.

Many automakers are cheap as heck and slow adopters of tech esp. for its mainstream vehicles. Many luxury vehicles get to 'test' the newer tech first before it possibly gets passed down to the mainstream vehicles in future models.
Many automakers could've made it available back ~2014 but didn't considering that the overall vehicles' prices would have included the overall cost of the Carplay stereo system anyway.

Have a 2014 Altima which includes its proprietary Nissan Connect which is its not so great entertainment system but can hook up with an iPhone. Instead, better to connect via Bluetooth and use from the iPhone directly.
The then Carplay system was available with the top line trim with the DVD GPS system ONLY!
It wasn't until the next 2019 model revision that a Carplay stereo system was included as standard equipment.
 
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ghughes20

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I have wireless CarPlay in my 2019 BMW X1. It's very buggy, and sometimes doesn't work at all. About 25% of time I have to re-engage CarPlay via BMW in car menus to get it to work. Other times, it takes up to 5 minutes to start.

When I'm in my car I have it plugged in to power all the time anyway. I would rather have a bug free tethered experience over what I have today.

I'm a big fan of CarPlay, just not the wireless application.
 

ArtOfWarfare

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When is Tesla rolling it out...lol

Probably never. CarPlay is designed to be used with absolute crap hardware - screens which are 6-10", single touch, low resolution. Imagine blowing CarPlay up to Tesla's 15-17" HD screens.

It's rumored that Apple and Tesla talked about the possibility of having CarPlay run in a windowed mode on Tesla, but I think Tesla realized that this would be about as visually pleasing as running Windows in a window on a Mac - it's technically possible and usable, but the visual language would be a disaster with mismatched color schemes, fonts, curves, borders, shadows, transparency, etc.

Tesla has instead taken the approach that they can write all the software themselves. They added Spotify and texting last year - this year's major update should start rolling out next week with Waypoints in maps - might also add in Apple Music and some other video streaming services... I think that should cover most of what CarPlay offers that Tesla doesn't already offer, doesn't it? The Text to Speech engine could use major improvements, particularly when it comes to URLs (really, just say "url" or "link" instead of saying each and every character...)
 
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