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I like Hondas, and have 2 of them (Odyssey and Civic), but damn that dash looks horrible. :eek:
 
Very disappointed that Honda isn't supporting true iOS in the Car that was shown in WWDC.
 
who buys a honda anyways lol

I leased mine. Love the low payments due to the high residual value. :cool:

At a minimum you have to look at the screen to use a touch screen due to the lack of tactile feedback. At worst, the screen actively attracts your attention from the road. A backlit screen creates light in the cabin impairing night vision.
If you can't have a transparent head up display then vehicles should have old school controls that can manipulated by feel, feedback and sound and NOT eye sight.

I'm guessing you don't currently have a nav system in your car? :p

They didn't say whether or not the touchscreen will work with gloved fingers. Hard to believe that it wouldn't, but then if it does what's the technology and how well will it work compared to current iOS screens?

I bought touch-screen gloves that pass the capacitance from my finger through to the iPhone touch screen. Highly recommended if you live in a temperate climate.
 
At a minimum you have to look at the screen to use a touch screen due to the lack of tactile feedback. At worst, the screen actively attracts your attention from the road. A backlit screen creates light in the cabin impairing night vision.
If you can't have a transparent head up display then vehicles should have old school controls that can manipulated by feel, feedback and sound and NOT eye sight.

A small screen is standard on current Civics, next to the instrument cluster, and I've never found it to be a distraction. It uses dark backgrounds, dims automatically in low light and has very little glare.
 
For something Tim Cook says is really important, I'm seeing no movement on iOS in the car. These 3rd party hack jobs are frustrating at best - not only does the consumer want seedless integration - they NEED it. The so,unions so far all look like they were designed by a committee of engineers who have to compromise with management and none of them have a clue. He current solutions are complicated, perform poorly, and actually serve as a major distraction while driving- the exact opposite of what they're supposed to be.

If automakers are slow to move, make an apple head unit that fits the standard double DIN slot, and let all of us with older cars lead the way in showing how superior a seamless In-car system can be.
 
$60 for the HondaLink Navigation app? Really? Really?!?

Just let me use the free Apple or Google Maps, thank you!

$60 is dirt cheap! Keep in mind a few things...

1) Car navigation systems are VERY pricey (ranging from about $800 to upwards of $2,000). Those systems are generally not as capable as smartphone apps.

2) The app likely is just a drop in the bucket. I am assuming this, but would expect that to get the screen and associated technology you would need to upgrade to a higher trim level car.

3) If you do have a built in navigation system, the maps are generally fixed and getting map updates is about $200 (based on my experience with both Acura and Infiniti cars I've owned).

Ultimately, I would love a "dumb terminal" in the car that does nothing but link to my smartphone via bluetooth and allows for display and interaction with certain apps on the built-in screen (nav, phone, music, etc...not videos, games, etc.).
 
I don't know what most on this board expected the car companies to do.

Heck as someone who had pencilled in a new Honda car soon after they implemented "IOS in the car" I don't know what *I* expected Honda to do.
(and as someone who skipped the honda NAV option in the last two cars because it was terrible….)

But Honda is *NOT* going to make a standard feature (or standard at some trim level) that only works properly with iPhones. A pure Apple system like most of their products is going to be a walled garden.

I'm not so sure this isn't "IOS in the car" or at least the only form we're going to see. Toyota already has their system, Ford is tied to Microsoft already. Which leaves GM and Nissan in the volume car space.

The original intro by Apple was light on details, I'll withhold judgement until at least the end of next year to see how this shakes out.
 
For something Tim Cook says is really important, I'm seeing no movement on iOS in the car. These 3rd party hack jobs are frustrating at best - not only does the consumer want seedless integration - they NEED it. The so,unions so far all look like they were designed by a committee of engineers who have to compromise with management and none of them have a clue. He current solutions are complicated, perform poorly, and actually serve as a major distraction while driving- the exact opposite of what they're supposed to be.

If automakers are slow to move, make an apple head unit that fits the standard double DIN slot, and let all of us with older cars lead the way in showing how superior a seamless In-car system can be.

no car company will make something that only works with one brand of phone. they need to make something that supports open standards and its up to the phone makers to support it

and apple is guilty here as well where new IOS versions have problems with car electronics
 
Buy a newer model Honda is not a solution

Perhaps Honda should make what they currently offer functional.

Considering that the Honda Link bluetooth implementation on my 2011 Odyssey still doesn't function with any of my iphones (3s, 4, 4s, or 5) I'm not setting a high bar for this announcement. FWIW it functions with my blackberry and sony just fine.

I'm tired of Honda telling me its Apple's fault and Apple telling me its Honda's fault. Get together and complete the promised handsfree option you offered with the vehicle. Buy a new model is not a solution.
 
Yet another car manufacturer trying to reinvent a wheel that Apple and Google have already done much better.

Does Honda really think I want to use their crappy navigation app over Apple's? I can talk to Apple Maps. I can press one button on the phone (or steering wheel) and say "Give me directions to....". I can say "What's my ETA?" I can say "Cancel directions." Also, next year, when Apple Maps take another jump, I'm likely to be able to speak more sophisticated commands to the mapping program. Also, I can do all of this through a bluetooth connection, instead of having to physically plug the phone in.

I would be happy with a nice spot to mount an ipad mini instead of their own locked down touch screen solution.
 
No Android support, eh? Hope it's an option that I don't have to pay for as I'll be in the market to buy another Honda. Maybe I'll check out Toyota instead though, we'll see. Infotainment isn't #1 priority, but if they alienate customers by only having one integration it won't be good for them.

Many here on MacRumors won't agree with me, but that's just my opinion.
 
Many car manufacturers such as Honda, Mercedes, BMW offered iPod connectivity in the past. So it kind of sets precedence in that they are willing to accommodate for one brand device.

Android, Apple, WM8...I don't care at this point. Just pick one. Integrate it fully so that the smartphone seeds all the info, data, content, etc. Been waiting on smart, computer integration forever. There was a glimmer of hope in recent years. And I was really hopeful it will be different this time. However, big disappointment once again from the car manufacturers.

This reminds me sorely of pre-iPhone smartphones. Stagnation ever model release that they always try to spin as the "latest and greatest tech." But what peeves me off more is that cars are tens of thousands of dollar. I just don't understand what they are spending their R&D money on.

Just look at the story of Tesla. The founder said he hated the progress of tech in the car sector. Whether they hit the mark or not, you can see that they went for it and tried to push modern computing technology into their vehicles.
 
At a minimum you have to look at the screen to use a touch screen due to the lack of tactile feedback. At worst, the screen actively attracts your attention from the road. A backlit screen creates light in the cabin impairing night vision.
If you can't have a transparent head up display then vehicles should have old school controls that can manipulated by feel, feedback and sound and NOT eye sight.

A definite safety concern! It could be engineered so the screen would only activate when the tranny is in 'park', but people would then just go back to their cellphones, which is equally as dangerous. One would hope people would use common sense with these devices, and let their front passenger do their navigating, or when alone, do the right thing and pull over.
 
The only way for iOS to work in the car is to be built in to 3rd party head units ... Not just new cars. Apple needs to partner with the likes of Sony, Pioneer and Kenwood etc.
 
One of the things I wanted to do when I used the crappy/dated low res touch screen was to write my own iPad app for it. Unfortunately I don't think Porsche would allow it not to mention void my warranty lol

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The only way for iOS to work in the car is to be built in to 3rd party head units ... Not just new cars. Apple needs to partner with the likes of Sony, Pioneer and Kenwood etc.

To be honest I've thought about it a lot driving the last few years. A cellular iPad mini linked to iPod compatible car can do 90% of everything I need.

We just need to have the car manufacture allow an app to control system settings such as clock.. air con. They can easily write their own app, update over air and still restrict access to sensitive electronics
 
i think apple needs to build their own car system, so you could bring it from car-to-car when you do buy a new car. clearly there's a market for it, and i bet apple could really do well
 
Does this mean Apple is the Honda Fit of the tech world? :eek:




Disclaimer: This post is intended to be humorous.
 
chances are that it has maps stores on local storage

i think chances are against that -- I'm not aware of any iOS app being able to use data stores on an external device. more than likely it works like the AppRadio head units -- outputs the video & touch signal from your iOS device to the head unit as an external display. (external displays are supported by iOS -- including tap events)
 
So sad! I was hoping they would mention the Odyssey:(. Pleas bring it to the odyssey!

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Perhaps Honda should make what they currently offer functional.

Considering that the Honda Link bluetooth implementation on my 2011 Odyssey still doesn't function with any of my iphones (3s, 4, 4s, or 5) I'm not setting a high bar for this announcement. FWIW it functions with my blackberry and sony just fine.

I'm tired of Honda telling me its Apple's fault and Apple telling me its Honda's fault. Get together and complete the promised handsfree option you offered with the vehicle. Buy a new model is not a solution.

Your Bluetooth doesn't work at all in your ody? I haven't had any issues and I have had all iterations of the iPhone except for the 5s... And have had two 2011 odys and a 2013 ody now. I was waiting for the 2015 to get Siri in the car but it looks like maybe it won't happen to later so maybe I'll start working a deal on a 2014.
 
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