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why do people who are not incredibly wealthy buy new cars (unless it is with others' money, like for work)?
 
I have a '13 Civic SI and I'm already feeling tech envy. It has bluetooth, but no GPS. And it still requires a key turn to start it. Not sure I can stand driving such an ancient machine much longer.
Your car is a youngster. My car is a '93 model bought in '92. It has old fashioned hand cranked windows. You should hear me laugh like a maniac when the little kids I carpool ask me where the buttons for the windows are...or better yet, ask ME to roll down the window on the rear passenger side while I'm driving! They see the crank for the windows but have no concept of what it is.

On the flip side, you should have seen my confusion recently when my sister-in-law offered to let me drive her new Mini-Cooper. When I found out there's no key, let alone a place to insert one, I switched over to the passenger side pretty fast. I want no part of this new technology until Apple comes out with a car that will in fact drive me wherever while I sit back and do absolutely nothing but enjoy the scenery.
 
I'm already impressed by Honda's 2016 lineup. Plus, they're the only Auto Maker right now in the < 35,000 (CAD) range that make a larger Midsize coupe in the Honda Accord.

Add on Car Play/ Android Auto to the HU (Since Toyota and Mazda are passing as of now), and i might know what car i'll get next year.
 
why do people who are not incredibly wealthy buy new cars (unless it is with others' money, like for work)?

I'm not incredibly wealthy, but i'm not poor. I like buying new cars, because new cars are fun. can i live with a slightly older one? SURE! But ti's not NEW

Also with a new car, you get full warranties (usually bumper to bumper for the first little while). You also don't inherit other peoples problems. Such as odours, wear and tear on surfaces and seats, possibly 3rd party replaced parts like brakes and the such.
 
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Your car is a youngster. My car is a '93 model bought in '92. It has old fashioned hand cranked windows. You should hear me laugh like a maniac when the little kids I carpool ask me where the buttons for the windows are...or better yet, ask ME to roll down the window on the rear passenger side while I'm driving! They see the crank for the windows but have no concept of what it is.

On the flip side, you should have seen my confusion recently when my sister-in-law offered to let me drive her new Mini-Cooper. When I found out there's no key, let alone a place to insert one, I switched over to the passenger side pretty fast. I want no part of this new technology until Apple comes out with a car that will in fact drive me wherever while I sit back and do absolutely nothing but enjoy the scenery.


You're one of those annoying old people that never want technology to advance based on your own beliefs. Go away.
 
why do people who are not incredibly wealthy buy new cars (unless it is with others' money, like for work)?
A quality used car will not be a cheap clunker. If you want something safe and reliable you are going to pay something for it. A lot of times not a whole lot less than a new car. At this point you may have to go with financing. Many times, financing a new car is CHEAPER than financing a used car and COULD be a wiser option than actually just buying the car outright. Besides, "incredibly wealthy" folks aren't buying Honda Civics, low end Kias, and so on.

Live a little. You can't take it with you.
 
why do people who are not incredibly wealthy buy new cars (unless it is with others' money, like for work)?


after the first car, you trade in your existing car and it's like a 30% down payment towards the new car. and then i've known people who bought used cars and they were always proud of how much money they would put into them to replace struts and lots of other parts that wear away. just buy a new car
 
..[snip].. her new Mini-Cooper. When I found out there's no key, let alone a place to insert one, I switched over to the passenger side pretty fast. I want no part of this new technology until Apple comes out with a car that will in fact drive me wherever while I sit back and do absolutely nothing but enjoy the scenery.
Well, wear your luddite tendencies with pride, I guess. But you say you can't deal with keyless entry/starting but will deal well with a self driving car?? Hmmm....
 
Someday cars will have updates to onboard systems to give you the freedom of new options without having to buy a new car to get it. Perhaps I am dreaming, naturally...

I had the "pleasure" of a rental with MS Sync recently, god, makes me want to get a car without a stereo/dash system next time I am forced to buy a car. It was horrifically bad UX/UI. It highlights a problem I have with integrated electronics these days. This constant stream of features which are good/usable for a fraction of the lifespan of the larger device is infuriating. It's the same reason I have not upgraded my A/V receiver recently, features come and go but 99% of the time all you need is a good amp.
 
after the first car, you trade in your existing car and it's like a 30% down payment towards the new car. and then i've known people who bought used cars and they were always proud of how much money they would put into them to replace struts and lots of other parts that wear away. just buy a new car

I have a fairly simple rule for my car replacement.

if the cost of maintenance per year exceeds the finance I would pay per year, Time to trade in and get something new.

My first car lasted me 3 years. what a piece of ****.
My Second car lasted me 7 years.
This car has lasted me almost 4 years... thoug. i'm just bored of it. judging by the fact that all i spend is 2 oil changes a year, new windshield wipers, chances are this car will last me another 20 years.
 
Any idea when wireless CarPlay will available?

iOS 9 supports wireless CarPlay but it requires the car audio head unit to have supported it. I am still waiting for Pioneer to release their firmware update to enable the NEX series do this.

(one advantage i see with wired CarPlay though — if you neatly tucked away the dangling lightning cable somehow — is that your phone stays charged always.)
 
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I wonder why the author chose to mention GM as another article that is installing CarPlay across the board, yet left out Volkswagen and other automakers who've also implemented CarPlay?

It's notable that Volkswagen supports CarPlay, Android Auto and MirrorLink (combined) in nearly every 2016 model year car.
 
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The 2010's is one of the worst decades in car design. ew.
I'm sad to agree with you.

Some of the best BUILT cars. Some of the best featured cars.

But they're all BORING. unless you're going to get a luxury car, the < 35k crowd is nothing but identical parity products of eachother. All using almost the same styling queues, and all pretty much the same overall designs.

I love cars that are unique wedge shape cars that look fast and sporty (even if they're not). But so far, the last couple years in particular, they're all these "waves" with "snouts".
 
I can has update for my 2015 please? That is the one feature that I wanted in my new car but I needed a new car and couldn't wait. :(
 
Addition of CarPlay is relatively minor improvement compared to Honda adding turbo charger.
Honda had been determined to manufacture naturally-aspirated engines combined with front wheel drive for more than a decade. The advantage of these combination is low manufacturing cost in exchange of performance. In order to compensate the disadvantage, Honda made VTEC which gives multiple running profiles to a single engine. As a result, a engine can be fuel efficient and high powered at different RPM.
I think it is ironic to see when Apple reconsidered the necessity of psychical keyboard/pencil and Honda adapted turbo charged engines about the same time.
 
I just got a 2016 Hyundai Tucson, and during that buying process, despite similar claims that Hyundai would support CarPlay, I could not for the life of me find any information about what exactly I would have to buy to have it. The dealer couldn't find any concrete information for me, either. Ultimately, I just logically assumed it would only be the Limited (because of the bigger touch screen), and decided I wasn't going to pay that much more regardless.

TL;DR: I hope Honda is more straightforward about the support than Hyundai was, in my recent experience.
 
I'm sad to agree with you.

Some of the best BUILT cars. Some of the best featured cars.

But they're all BORING. unless you're going to get a luxury car, the < 35k crowd is nothing but identical parity products of eachother. All using almost the same styling queues, and all pretty much the same overall designs.

I love cars that are unique wedge shape cars that look fast and sporty (even if they're not). But so far, the last couple years in particular, they're all these "waves" with "snouts".
Apologies to all for thread jacking. Imo, there are plenty of cars that veer from the standard triangle w/4 wheels. All of these offer unique styling and are under $25K. The Toyobaru twins (FR-S & BRZ), Miata, Ford's Mustang and Focus ST, Mini Cooper, Golf GTI, Nissan Juke, Hyundai Veloster. Some sporty, some practical. These are just a few.

You're right on your other points. Build quality is much better and evocative styling usually starts above $35K.

Slightly on topic. Neither CP nor AA interest me for some reason. I'm a car enthusiast. I like driving for the sake of driving. The fewer distractions the better for me. Speaking of boring. All the manuals are disappearing in the US. Might have to move to Europe.
 
Sorry Billy. No one is going to feed you this morning.
Jeez, has no one got a sense of humour round here any more..

This Is a forum to debate Apple stuff, which is what I do, I don't slag anyone off, I don't tell Lies, I try not to be rude. Is there some underlying agenda that unless you have an apple tattoo a cross your chest you are not welcome.. If you don't see both sides of the coin it would be a very dull place...
 
I was about say, well, pretty much this, using just about the exact same examples:

Apologies to all for thread jacking. Imo, there are plenty of cars that veer from the standard triangle w/4 wheels. All of these offer unique styling and are under $25K. The Toyobaru twins (FR-S & BRZ), Miata, Ford's Mustang and Focus ST, Mini Cooper, Golf GTI, Nissan Juke, Hyundai Veloster. Some sporty, some practical. These are just a few.

A number of those are also FI from the factory, so there's a nice amount of power available in the aftermarket (obv. with all the pros/cons that entails :))
 
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We still have Honda civic 2006. Thats a fabulous little car (aside from IMA problems but thats understandable).
I'd love to buy someday Civic 2016. CarPlay adds value. Audio in Civic (6 speakers) really impresses me as rarely the factory speakers are any good, but these are great.
 
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