Honeycomb (Andriod 3.0 for Tablets) is vastly superior to iOS on the iPad

[wikoogle]

I'm not talking about the iPad itself here, just the operating system that it's currently running.

iOS is fine for a smartphone, but as far as tablets are concerned, it's severely lacking in several areas. Porting it almost directly off of a smartphone OS led to numerous limitations...

Below covers ALL of the reasonable software wishes people have...

A filesystem is my biggest want for the next iOS. Not like on a Mac where you see system files and other stuff, but just a users home folder. A place that all apps can access and load and save files from/to. That way if I have a document it doesn't have to exist inside of each app in order to access it. (1 copy in DropBox, 1 in Pages, 1 in DocsToGo, etc.) Also it means that Apples apps would be able to share files with DropBox or any other file syncing service. Then get rid of the file sharing in iTunes and instead just have the disk show up as an external drive. - Originally posted by Jclardy. And please let us drag and drop videos and photos from any PC directly into the iPad's video/photos folder without having to go through iTunes and syncing everything. It sucks that we can't just simply drag and drop a photo from a friend's computer into the Phone, or delete a song from our music library. When plugged in, allow Windows/OSX to recognize and use the iPad as a 32GB/64GB/128GB Mass/USB Storage Device with access to the file system.

Improved notifications, notifications that don't disappear immediately (like push notifications that you see on the unlock screen), let the notifications show up somewhere and have a dismiss all button or something like that. Example: http://vimeo.com/18568684

Updated Lock Screen That Displays Number of Texts, Emails & Custom Widgets of our choice

Dynamic Weather, Temp, Stocks and Clock Icons (or Widgets)

"I want the ipad to integrate more with the iphone. I've said it all along. There should be a software setting on the iphone that pushes all texts, notifications to the ipad. So I dont have to go back and forth just to reply to text messages. Now blackberry is doing it with the playbook but I figured apple would have done this from the get go with the ipad." - CrAkd

OTA/Wireless iTunes and Syncing - file-soup solution allowing apps to push and pull files from a cloud-synced file-collection

Output iPad to HDTVs/Apple TV scaled or downconverted to display at 1080p either OTA/Wirelessly or via a mini-HDMI port or a Dock Connector to VGA adapter
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Let us download files from Safari(or other apps) and store them on the phone in a centralized location, then be able to access them without Safari on my Mac/PC for easy file sharing/swapping.

Apple, let us organize the 100+ photos and videos on our iPads into separate folders/albums. Add a file system for organizing and reordering videos, music, photos (into albums), and documents (PDF, DOC, PAGES), and other files for email attachments directly on the phone itself without having to sync it, and giving the files names and describtions. Adding a file system would allow us to attach any filetype to emails we are sending out. They could also improve the controls over podcasts so that we could delete podcasts or rearrange the order of podcasts and make iTunes collect them by topic, or mark podcasts for deletion upon syncing and make notes on podcasts. These features should be combined with and enabled in a Network File Browser.
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Many more limitations posted at this link
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1081984/


Honeycomb on the other hand was designed brilliantly, from the ground up, just for tablets. If you have any doubts that it's superior, read this article...

http://lifehacker.com/5744175/screenshot-tour-of-android-30-honeycomb-built-for-tablets

If you don't feel like reading, here is a short video that shows off just a tiny portion of the new features and tweaks made to Honeycomb...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPUGNCIozp0&feature=player_embedded

 

[kamalds]

Depends on the needs.I need to be productive at all times, so something like Fujitsu Q550 will be more suitable for me as it runs Windows 7. http://mobilityupdate.com/tablet/fujitsu-q550/

 

[jb1280]

I think Honeycomb looks interesting, but my gut feeling is that Google has added unnecessary complication to the OS to compensate for a lack of useful software.

My position is that the success of a mobile OS is how well it gets out of the way and allows me to focus on what I am working on.

For those who like bells and whistles and lots of widgets, I am glad they have something like Honeycomb.

To those that are into Android, I am sure they will like it, but to me it just looks completely unpolished and amateurish.

 

[JPanther]

I agree with you that iOS lacks some bells and whistles I would like to see...but on the other hand, its nice and simple, and super smooth.

Looking forward to getting my hands on one to try it out.

 

[RedWings]

Based on what I've seen from write-ups and videos, it has the potential to be a lot better....for me.

but to me it just looks completely unpolished and amateurish.

Are you serious or just messing with us?

Amateur compared to what? iOS? Because it doesn't get much more amateurish than iOS.

- A multi-tasking "dock" that doesn't actually multi-task. The dock does have most recent apps....but it'll go on and on and on with the last 11ty billion apps you opened instead of the last 5-6.

- No customization of the home screens. At all. Oh yea I forgot you can change just the wallpaper....now that screams non-amateur right there.

While iOS may be simple to use and polished looking, it lacks a lot of features that you should expect in a device at this price range and hardware specs.

 

[GoCubsGo]

It's all conceptual until it is in the hands of the mass public.

 

[Carouser]

iOS is fine for a smartphone, but as far as tablets are concerned, it's severely lacking in several areas. Porting it almost directly off of a smartphone OS led to numerous limitations...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1081984/

A list of demands unconstrained by anything whatsoever does not constitute evidence of 'numerous limitations'.
If by 'limitation' you mean 'something it does not have' then everything has infinite limitations.
Even if those demands appear 'reasonable' it does not mean that they are limitations of the OS.
Any limitations the iOS might have are not necessarily a result of iOS appearing on a smart phone.

 

[rdowns]

I have this ****ing crazy idea. How about we wait to have a poll on which OS is better until someone actually gets to try it out.

 

[jb1280]

Based on what I've seen from write-ups and videos, it has the potential to be a lot better....for me.



Are you serious or just messing with us?

Amateur compared to what? iOS? Because it doesn't get much more amateurish than iOS.

- A multi-tasking "dock" that doesn't actually multi-task. The dock does have most recent apps....but it'll go on and on and on with the last 11ty billion apps you opened instead of the last 5-6.

- No customization of the home screens. At all. Oh yea I forgot you can change just the wallpaper....now that screams non-amateur right there.

While iOS may be simple to use and polished looking, it lacks a lot of features that you should expect in a device at this price range and hardware specs.

Fine, I'm glad that the concept of Honeycomb is going to be more useful for you. I made very clearly what I expect out of a mobile OS and iOS fits the bill perfectly with the 12 productivity apps that I use - Apps that most likely cannot be replicated on Android.

You know, and heaven forbid Google spend 15 minutes thinking about how things actually look.

You have your set ideas, I have mine. There is no need to question my seriousness of the topic.

 

[BaldiMac]

Once again proving the amazing ability of demos of unreleased products to leave year old Apple products in the dust.

I read the article, but I'm still confused as to what is "vastly superior" to iOS for iPad other than the stuff that was already in Android. Different home screen layout, but "The home screens themselves are pretty similar to regular Android as far as functionality."

 

[cecoleman]

The difference is simplicity. My mom has an iPad, never owned an iPod or an iPhone before. I taught her to use it in one day of use. This Honeycomb tablet looks extremely complicated for an average user. While the UI looks futuristic and complex, I just don't think it will appeal to the average consumer. News flash for you... developers like to develop to a large audience not a niche group of nerds who spend more time customizing the devices than actually using them to be productive or consume media. Honeycomb still won't have the iTunes integration nor the industry accessory support than an iPad will have. So whether you think its more advanced or not, it will probably only look more advanced...not actually be more advanced.

 

[RedWings]

The difference is simplicity. My mom has an iPad, never owned an iPod or an iPhone before. I taught her to use it in one day of use. This Honeycomb tablet looks extremely complicated for an average user. While the UI looks futuristic and complex, I just don't think it will appeal to the average consumer. News flash for you... developers like to develop to a large audience not a niche group of nerds who spend more time customizing the devices than actually using them to be productive or consume media. Honeycomb still won't have the iTunes integration nor the industry accessory support than an iPad will have. So whether you think its more advanced or not, it will probably only look more advanced...not actually be more advanced.

If using Android is 'complicated', then using Microsoft Windows must drive you insane.

 

[MrWillie]

Depends on the needs.I need to be productive at all times, so something like Fujitsu Q550 will be more suitable for me as it runs Windows 7. http://mobilityupdate.com/tablet/fujitsu-q550/

You could also check out the HP/Compaq TC 4400. It even includes a built in keyboard.

Also for the ultimate in portabiliy there is www.oqo.com A little pricey at $2000, but.

So what is the difference between the Fijitsu and the other "full" Windows tablets that clutter our land
fills ?

 

[troyhouse]

I'm not talking about the iPad itself here, just the operating system that it's currently running.

iOS is fine for a smartphone, but as far as tablets are concerned, it's severely lacking in several areas. Porting it almost directly off of a smartphone OS led to numerous limitations...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1081984/


Honeycomb on the other hand was designed brilliantly, from the ground up, just for tablets. If you have any doubts that it's superior, read this article...

http://lifehacker.com/5744175/screenshot-tour-of-android-30-honeycomb-built-for-tablets

If you don't feel like reading, here is a short video that shows off just a tiny portion of the new features and tweaks made to Honeycomb...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPUGNCIozp0&feature=player_embedded

wrong forum, much more appropriate at "androidrumors"

 

[GadgetAddict]

Honeycomb certainly looks really good but I'm not going to get into fanatically supporting this or iOS as other posters have done. As an Apple fan I hope that Honeycomb proves to be very very good. Because this will push Apple to make iOS much more awesome! So no vote from me, both must have their pros and cons which I don't really know since I haven't used Honeycomb.

 

[MrWillie]

Honeycomb certainly looks really good but

wait till the manufactures work their 'magic' on it.

I'm not going to get into fanatically supporting this or iOS as other posters have done. As an Apple fan I hope that Honeycomb proves to be very very good. Because this will push Apple to make iOS much more awesome! So no vote from me, both must have their pros and cons which I don't really know since I haven't used Honeycomb.

Nicely put. Apple will continue to develop iOS with or without Andriod, but I hope it pushes them a little harder. Then again what I have read on some of the Android forums, most Android users are not impressed with 3.0 or Xoom. And these are people that wouldn't get caught dead on MR.

 

[Nishi100]

Now, for tablets, the only good thing about iOS is the app store. Honeycomb is better than iOS at everything, apart from tablet optimised apps. Google need to do something about tablet apps.

 

[blackNBUK]

- A multi-tasking "dock" that doesn't actually multi-task. The dock does have most recent apps....but it'll go on and on and on with the last 11ty billion apps you opened instead of the last 5-6.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that Honeycomb will be different in this respect. It too has a "Recently Used" Apps list instead of a desktop style multi-tasking dock. The "Recently Used" list on Honeycomb does display screenshots of Apps which is a good improvement but I don't think that this is a fundamental difference in use. It would be different if separate items inside of an App (e.g. browser tabs, documents) appeared separately on the "Recently Used" list however I don't think that this is the case.

I think the differences between Android and iOS in multitasking are blown out of all proportion. This article gives a good outline of the multitasking systems and there are more similarities than there are differences. On both systems Apps are suspended when they go to the background, the user is not expected to manually quit Apps and the OS is able to kill suspended Apps to reclaim memory. Tasks that should run in the background have to be partitioned off from the rest of the App. On Android this is done by creating Services while on iOS this is done by using a number of fixed multi-tasking APIs. Services provide more flexibility to an App developer however they also allow bad developers to run down the battery very quickly by, for example, keeping a network connection open indefinitely. iOS makes it much harder to make this sort of mistake at the expense of limiting Apps to the common uses of multitasking.

 

[chrmjenkins]

It's kind of pointless to argue that a newer operating system is better than an older one. If iOS 5 comes out and honeycomb is still better, then you can shout it from the hilltops.

 

[MrWillie]

Now, for tablets, the only good thing about iOS is the app store. Honeycomb is better than iOS at everything, apart from tablet optimised apps. Google need to do something about tablet apps.

Better at everything such as ? You know this because ?

 

[BaldiMac]

Now, for tablets, the only good thing about iOS is the app store.

There is that. And the fact that it's been available for the last year. That's a small advantage over the competition.

Honeycomb is better than iOS at everything, apart from tablet optimised apps.

Why do people say things like this? Honeycomb hasn't even been released. How could this claim have any basis in fact?

 

[QuarterSwede]

To the OP: I think a better comparison would be Honeycomb and RIM's Playbook Tablet OS both of which are next gen.

I think the differences between Android and iOS in multitasking are blown out of all proportion. This article gives a good outline of the multitasking systems and there are more similarities than there are differences. On both systems Apps are suspended when they go to the background, the user is not expected to manually quit Apps and the OS is able to kill suspended Apps to reclaim memory. Tasks that should run in the background have to be partitioned off from the rest of the App. On Android this is done by creating Services while on iOS this is done by using a number of fixed multi-tasking APIs. Services provide more flexibility to an App developer however they also allow bad developers to run down the battery very quickly by, for example, keeping a network connection open indefinitely. iOS makes it much harder to make this sort of mistake at the expense of limiting Apps to the common uses of multitasking.

Great explanation.

Honestly, this is the future of multitasking on limited power devices. It gives you the multitasking you need but also retains battery life.

I've been very happy with the way iOS does it. I think with a bump to 1GB of RAM it'll be where nothing you could currently be using goes out of memory. On my iPhone 4 (512MB) it happens every once in a while when using Safari and multi-tasking.

 

[maflynn]

honeycomb isn't even out yet, so there's no way people can say that its better, worse or the same.

I mean does it the OS need a dual core processor, if that's the case. I'd say iOS is better at handling resources.

Android is not a bad OS, its a different OS, its not better or worse. People choose android phones because they want one. Choice is a great thing. I wanted an iPad because it fits my needs better then an android solution.

 

[bri1212]

Trolling for responses

Ok so the OP has an opinion on an OS that no one has even seen yet. If Honeycomb turns out be vastly superior, then it will be time to talk, now it just makes the OP look like they are trolling for reactions, based on fantasy and rumor.
The reaction for most of us is: You obviously do not have any idea of what you are talking about. Because you have not even seen it or played with it, or tried to use it in a real life situation. When the public gets to do that, and you have spent time with both devices, then I might listen to your opinion on which one is "vastly superior". But remember, opinions are like a--holes, everyone has one, and none smell that good.

 

[Jakeblu]

Ok so the OP has an opinion on an OS that no one has even seen yet. If Honeycomb turns out be vastly superior, then it will be time to talk, now it just makes the OP look like they are trolling for reactions, based on fantasy and rumor.

At last a sensible post on this. Honeycomb may very well be the bee's knee's (pun intended) of mobile op system but until it's out we don't really know, now do we?

......... But remember, opinions are like a--holes, everyone has one, and none smell that good.