OQO got bankrupted in 2009. I prefer Fujitsu as they have gained enough experience (9 years) in the tablet world and know how to make rock solid tablets.
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Honeycomb (Andriod 3.0 for Tablets) is vastly superior to iOS on the iPad
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OQO got bankrupted in 2009. I prefer Fujitsu as they have gained enough experience (9 years) in the tablet world and know how to make rock solid tablets.
Well, it does drive a lot of people insane with all those viruses and crashes. It's my job to deal with these people, and so far I've been very busy.
I think webOS on tablets will top them all.
What? Not enough information? Bah! Who cares about information - I saw screenshots and made some animations up in my head, and it looks totally awesome!!!1
What? Not enough information? Bah! Who cares about information - I saw screenshots and made some animations up in my head, and it looks totally awesome!!!1
Yawn. Another troll thread. Its obvious the OP has no clue about technology from the uneducated statement:
Different people have different needs/wants in a device. I could easily say the space shuttle is a superior device since it can travel to space, but what if I just want to go to the grocery store? Is it still superior?
Anyway run along now, we have enough of the "iOS is inferior!" (even though it continues to outsell the competition in pretty much everything) threads.
Different people have different needs/wants in a device. I could easily say the space shuttle is a superior device since it can travel to space, but what if I just want to go to the grocery store? Is it still superior?
Anyway run along now, we have enough of the "iOS is inferior!" (even though it continues to outsell the competition in pretty much everything) threads.
If Apple offers the market an iPad 1.5 (e.g. same resolution, a little polish to iOS 4) then it will be sucking wind come Holiday 2011.
You are wrong! You can custom the choice of pic for the background. You can arrange icons, folders to your fitting. Widgets are like apps. So, you can get free apps from the app store like weather hd. Granted it is not a native app but it is an app. So, you choosing which apps from the app store is a method of customizing the home screen. Having too much customization, it can be confusing and decreases usefulness.
iOS is not perfect, but neither is 2.3 or this honeycomb. Full version has not been seen. Till Honeycomb is out, it is hard to judge it.
iOS ecosystem is way better than android. iOS is a compilation of itune, app store, youtube, folders, email,etc. App store on iOS is way better than android market except the purchasing part where it kicks you out of the app store. itune library of music, movies, podcast,etc. Fast app switching and folders are great.
Honeycomb will be way better froyo. Honeycomb may come close to make android os decent!! Decent enough, but I am so happy with ios. Such that, I will never leave iOS sys. I have no reason to leave iOS. Honeycomb may be cool, but there is no incentive to leave. In gaming consoles, I have all 3. Why? Because, there are exclusive games like Mario, Silent Hill, Fable, etc. If Android has something exclusive and compelling, then I might buy an android tablet and still keep my iPad. Otherwise, I am so loving my apple products. I will continue to be an apple product buyer. I was a pc guy that have used pc for several years.
Yes I know they went bankrupt. That was my point, the failure/limited sales of the 'full' Windows tablets.
Just some food for thought:
If the geeks / tech-oriented people that read this forum can't come to a consensus about which OS is better (and I'm saying that in a very generous way -- iOS is crushing in the poll right now), why do you think the general public is going to care about Honeycomb?
The features that Honeycomb adds are VERY geek-centric. Not things that Joe Public is going to care about. And it can't even get all the geeks on board.
I think you're all in for a big surprise when the Honeycomb tablets start shipping to a collective sound of "meh".
I've said it before. I still see the tablet "wars" as shaping out much closer to the iPod vs. Sansa mp3 player wars. The Sansa offerings through a bunch of features in, and some tech-heads got really excited about them, praising their virtues over the (in their minds) "inferior" iPod. We all know how that played out.
It's going to be interesting, for sure.
If the geeks / tech-oriented people that read this forum can't come to a consensus about which OS is better (and I'm saying that in a very generous way -- iOS is crushing in the poll right now), why do you think the general public is going to care about Honeycomb?
The features that Honeycomb adds are VERY geek-centric. Not things that Joe Public is going to care about. And it can't even get all the geeks on board.
I think you're all in for a big surprise when the Honeycomb tablets start shipping to a collective sound of "meh".
I've said it before. I still see the tablet "wars" as shaping out much closer to the iPod vs. Sansa mp3 player wars. The Sansa offerings through a bunch of features in, and some tech-heads got really excited about them, praising their virtues over the (in their minds) "inferior" iPod. We all know how that played out.
It's going to be interesting, for sure.
The Action Bar is essentially a UI rip from Apple's UIToolbar, people just think it is different because Android never had that kind of UI element before 3.0. From what I can tell only the last item can have a "popover" whereas on the iPad's UI they can be assigned to any button.
Honeycomb says "built for tablets". What they actually mean is they redesigned Android's 2.x UI so that it can actually work on a tablet. Android's hidden menus would have been stupid on a tablet, so they added the Action Bar.
There are however, a few enhancements that beat out the iPad. For one the recent apps display which shows a thumbnail of each running app is pretty cool, although you can only see 4 at a time in landscape mode, you have to scroll for the rest. The built in browser appears to be a lot better, having tabs on the top and syncing with Chrome bookmarks (Safari can sync bookmarks, but to do it wirelessly you need mobileme).
It also has widgets of course, which are cool but I think they would work better on the lock screen. If I already have my tablet in my hands and unlock it I am going to do more with it than just look at some info on the home screen and put it away. That is what my smartphone is for.
Other than the Tron-inspired blue glow interface it is still Android under the hood. Just because a marketing team says it is the "most advanced" does not make it so.
It is with out a doubt a better system than ios4. However it is also messy because Google is all over the place. If they would clean up the mess & get things in order they may have a go at it. The system that apple is relying on to run a tablet is watered down or weak if you will for a tablet. I know or at least hope in the future ios will get better & stronger you need some powerful in a tablet maybe not osx but a watered down version of it would not have been bad.
With the tablet landscape continuously expanding to new players like RIM and HP I suspect that Apple will introduce a totally new iOS in version 5. We will probably have a 2GHZ CPU in our iPads at that time as well.
Why? It's good to share ideas and experiences. There is no right or wrong, each to their own. Buy the product line that is right for you.
But it's also good to show people (on either side of the fence) of what's available (or will be soon), out there.
I have this ****ing crazy idea. How about we wait to have a poll on which OS is better until someone actually gets to try it out.
Now that's just crazy talk.
In my response, i want bash Android and/or Honeycomb. I've seen the video spot and did the reading about just like others in this forum. Both the reading and video exude promise of a nice tablet experience, but I'll offer this.
When Samsung began it's advertising blitz of their new tablet offering, i was impressed, although I couldn't grasp using the smaller size after months of using the iPad. Finally, I got hands on with it and soon became not impressed, there was no wow factor. Sure, you could say I'm biased toward the iPad, but that's probably assumed based on the response I'm providing. I'll let you know that I'm not and I tried the galaxy tab with an open mind. The get in get out factor is tops to why I like the iPad, not many strokes to accomplish a task and the app to interface interaction is superb.
Look, for years I was all Microsoft, because in my mind there was nothing better, until I purchased a MacBook pro years back. I mention that to say we're all tech junkies here an if Andriod can some day tag up with the right tablet maker, folk will make the move.
Lastly, wait and put your hands on before you throw out the cons of the existing.....
When Samsung began it's advertising blitz of their new tablet offering, i was impressed, although I couldn't grasp using the smaller size after months of using the iPad. Finally, I got hands on with it and soon became not impressed, there was no wow factor. Sure, you could say I'm biased toward the iPad, but that's probably assumed based on the response I'm providing. I'll let you know that I'm not and I tried the galaxy tab with an open mind. The get in get out factor is tops to why I like the iPad, not many strokes to accomplish a task and the app to interface interaction is superb.
Look, for years I was all Microsoft, because in my mind there was nothing better, until I purchased a MacBook pro years back. I mention that to say we're all tech junkies here an if Andriod can some day tag up with the right tablet maker, folk will make the move.
Lastly, wait and put your hands on before you throw out the cons of the existing.....
If you think honeycomb is the bomb wait until Android Guacamole is released. It is so advanced, with features never seen before, that it will take your breath away. Seriously, it will be better than sex. It will satisfy every biological drive.
These threads are so freaking predictable and tiresome. They have been a constant drone since the iPad was first released. " _____________________(insert tablet device or software here) will slaughter the iPad."
As yet, no serious competition has emerged. Folks, who just want to agitate feces, continue to tout products that aren't even released or functional yet as "superior" to iOS. The truth is that maybe they will have features or functions that are not present in iOS or may have different form.
If you think it's superior buy it, and go compose self-congratulatory posts on an Android forum.
These threads are so freaking predictable and tiresome. They have been a constant drone since the iPad was first released. " _____________________(insert tablet device or software here) will slaughter the iPad."
As yet, no serious competition has emerged. Folks, who just want to agitate feces, continue to tout products that aren't even released or functional yet as "superior" to iOS. The truth is that maybe they will have features or functions that are not present in iOS or may have different form.
If you think it's superior buy it, and go compose self-congratulatory posts on an Android forum.
When are tablets with honycomb set to ship? I haven't been keeping track but iirc it's a while off?
Off to google I guess to see.
hmm.. not really working prototype at ces, but a specced launch date of feb 17th for the xoom - that seems unlikely.
looks like a great device though, time will tell. Also, android needs much higher developer commitment.
This is good because it will force apple to up the specs for the ipad 2, imo.
Off to google I guess to see.
hmm.. not really working prototype at ces, but a specced launch date of feb 17th for the xoom - that seems unlikely.
looks like a great device though, time will tell. Also, android needs much higher developer commitment.
This is good because it will force apple to up the specs for the ipad 2, imo.
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Let me first remark that the iPad OS is _not_ ported off a smartphone OS. It is a derivative of MacOS X, the most advanced operating system that you can get at the moment.
And now I'll tell you how these "limitations" of iOS come about:
iOS Developer 1: I have a great idea for a new feature...
iOS Developer 2: Sounds great. Let's check if there are any disadvantages that might not be obvious...
<both think hard for a while>
iOS Developer 1: Well, it sounded great, but if we do it, then users will actually suffer, because...
iOS Developer 2: Yeah, it's a shame...
Honeycomb Developer: I just added this great new feature...
Threadstarter: Honeycomb is vastly superior to iOS because it has this great new feature...
<a bit later>
iPad user: Why doesn't the iPad have this great honeycomb feature?
Android user: This feature sounded great, but I wish they hadn't added it because...
Whilst I'm of course sure that the reasons you give above are valid and also are true, you must not forget you need to also accept there are profit/company reasons not to allow certain things/restrict things.
What technical people can do, and what business people thinking of shareholders and their salary want to be done are not often going to match.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dashboard widgets showed up in iOS 5. They're already integrating Dashboard with Mission Control in 10.7 anyway. Makes sense they'll bring that integration (Dashboard and Expose) to iOS at some point.
Gizmodo: "Why have you veered away from widgets on the iPad?"
Steve Jobs: "We just shipped it on Saturday. And then we rested on Sunday."
Gizmodo: "So widgets are possible?"
Steve Jobs: "Everything is possible."
Gizmodo: "Why have you veered away from widgets on the iPad?"
Steve Jobs: "We just shipped it on Saturday. And then we rested on Sunday."
Gizmodo: "So widgets are possible?"
Steve Jobs: "Everything is possible."
As a member of Joe Public can I just say that I don't give a stuff about widgets, all they do is crowd up the screen; multitasking, I rarely multitask on my iPad, except occasionally jumping from the web to pages to copy some information; previews of apps running in the background, I know what I was doing five seconds ago!; how much RAM it has, as long as the thing goes; how fast the processor is, as long as it runs what I want or if I can micro manage every little godforsaken useless detail!
All I want is something that I can pick up and instantly turn on my favorite movie, drop in on my favorite website or check my email. And I want to do that in as simple a way possible. No clutter, no bells and whistles, no worrying about the internals etc.
All I want is something that I can pick up and instantly turn on my favorite movie, drop in on my favorite website or check my email. And I want to do that in as simple a way possible. No clutter, no bells and whistles, no worrying about the internals etc.
Yeah, well someone bet me $50 a year ago that we'd see Widgets if not when the iPad was released, when 4.0 came to the iPad - welched on both accounts (that just reminded me because they quoted the exact same conversation).
Remember how so many posters were saying to wait for Froyo and then the Android phones would clearly topple the iPhone? That definitely didn't happen. Honeycomb will be the same way.
And these are some of the main reasons the Android trolls here don't understand why the iPad is successful. They'd rather compare specs than actually use the product.
Pretty sure they'll put that os on 300 different devices and those 300 devices will combine to outsell the iPad and they'll proclaim it a success. And Apple will make butt loads more money than all of the producers of those pieces of crap put together.
It's a piece of crap. Just like Android.
It's a piece of crap. Just like Android.