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Horrible drunk driving accident in Ohio
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I can't even read that whole thing. It makes me too sick. I seriously hate drunk drivers so much. Around here on new years night a girl hit a deputy sheriff head on and killed his wife who was on a ride along. The girl is in critical condition and everybody is showing sympathy to this girl. They seem to forget that she was the one who got drunk and decided to drive without consideration of other people. She killed someone.
I personally find drunk drivers that kill people to be worse then a murder. At least the murderer (for the most part) has a reason for killing someone, no matter how stupid the reason (I am hard pressed to find any good reason to kill another person). These drunk drivers however basically are saying. "I want to get drunk, and I don't need to think about anyone but myself". I can not feel sorry for any drunk driver only their victims.
I also believe that this counties drunk driving laws are not sever enough. I think if you kill someone while driving drunk you should get 30+ years in prison. If your get pulled over for drinking more then twice that should be it. No more driving.
My uncle had 9 DWIs and finally only lost his license when someone else got hurt. He spent 5 years in prison. If they would have taken his license away when it was obvious that he had a problem no one would have gotten hurt.
I personally find drunk drivers that kill people to be worse then a murder. At least the murderer (for the most part) has a reason for killing someone, no matter how stupid the reason (I am hard pressed to find any good reason to kill another person). These drunk drivers however basically are saying. "I want to get drunk, and I don't need to think about anyone but myself". I can not feel sorry for any drunk driver only their victims.
I also believe that this counties drunk driving laws are not sever enough. I think if you kill someone while driving drunk you should get 30+ years in prison. If your get pulled over for drinking more then twice that should be it. No more driving.
My uncle had 9 DWIs and finally only lost his license when someone else got hurt. He spent 5 years in prison. If they would have taken his license away when it was obvious that he had a problem no one would have gotten hurt.
Another deterrent in case anyone isn't convinced:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/888126/drunk_driving_jacqueline_saburido/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/888126/drunk_driving_jacqueline_saburido/
Another deterrent in case anyone isn't convinced:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/888126/drunk_driving_jacqueline_saburido/
x 1000!
Exactly. It's not an accident anymore. It's murder. If the road was slippery and you were completely sober and awake, and you weren't talking on your mobile phone, then it's an accident when you hit someone.
If you've been drinking, and you hit a car and kill someone, then you're a killer and your car is a weapon and should be treated as such.
And the drunk driver lives. Again. The f***er always does. I hope he dies in jail.
Another deterrent in case anyone isn't convinced:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/888126/drunk_driving_jacqueline_saburido/
That's horrible, and difficult to watch.
we had one of those around here and the car came to my grandfathers auto body shop there was absolutely nothing left of the car it was destroyed. Some people don't think at all.
No worries.
Sometimes it's good to revisit tragedies like this.
Whenever holding a party or get together, the host should always hold the keys to prevent someone sneaking off without anybody knowing.
I simply fail to see your logic here.
It is very sad to see something like this. It is even sadder that the whole "don't drink and drive" falls on def ears for many. More than we probably even know.
I think it'd be great if all cars had breathalyzers installed. Something very inconspicuous, almost like a little vent near the wheel. No car should start without it. I know that is extreme, but hell, if it stops this from happening then I'd gladly breathe into something every time in order to start my car.
That is EXACTLY what I said before I edited my previous post. It would be an easy system to fool, but not in the situation where the drunk driver is alone, and lets face it, many of the ones on the news seem to be in the car alone at the time.
And yeah....I think someones post got deleted. Don't know why.
Wasn't this suppose to happen or they did a pilot with it. I think it is a great idea. But I can see alot of people being against it, sort of like putting a rev limiter on cars limiting how fast one can go. To re-iterate I think it is a great idea.
I wasn't aware that Godfathers Pizza had a drive-thru
"You mess with alcohol, you mess with my whole family" BANG
I wonder what the people in line behind the drunkard would think?
Mary: "They just blew that guy away!"
Frank: "Maybe he didn't use exact change?"
Mary: "Step on Frank!"
i live in illinois which has slowly finally begun to "throw the book" as in homicide charges against these types of drunken bums--who generally have NO recollections of the event....but you guys also must realize that what the automakers are coming out with now are nothing but large empty soda cans that they put some fancy seats and oh yes fancy music setup because none of anyones cares about this reality that this is what you are getting and they call it a car or sports car or suv but its really a large aluminum soda can....these vehicles simply don't hold up and then the larger con has been putting in these stupid air bags because they want to build these large soda cans.....so you aqnd me can certainly die in if we're hit by a drunk!
This story is tragic, and unfortunately, it is a growing problem across America. To all of you who feel for this family, please consider joining your local chapter of SADD, MADD, or RADD.
I was the chapter president of our local SADD last year. 16,000 people died last year alone in drunk driving accidents. Since starting our SADD college chapter in Youngstown, Ohio, we have seen a decrease in DD accidents and deaths.
The work you do with them is rewarding and actually saves lives. If this story touched you, please consider helping this cause with your time and support.
http://www.sadd.org/
http://www.madd.org/
http://www.radd.org/
Thank you!
I was the chapter president of our local SADD last year. 16,000 people died last year alone in drunk driving accidents. Since starting our SADD college chapter in Youngstown, Ohio, we have seen a decrease in DD accidents and deaths.
The work you do with them is rewarding and actually saves lives. If this story touched you, please consider helping this cause with your time and support.
http://www.sadd.org/
http://www.madd.org/
http://www.radd.org/
Thank you!
What is the typical punishment for a drink driver being caught in the USA?
I was wondering how it compared to the UK.
Mark.
I was wondering how it compared to the UK.
Mark.
Do you have statistics on how the number splits between the drunk's car and the non-drunks. Clearly not all the deaths are from two car events.
All too often, it's a weekend on jail (at your convenience) and a fine. I've known too many people who drink and drive - they figure that the chance of an accident is low enough and the punishment just just getting pulled over weak enough that the risk is worth it.
Ah I remember this, as an Ohio resident myself. We've had a few high-profile DUI accidents involving fatalities in NE Ohio; in several cases the offender had a LONG history of DUI convictions, and somehow was allowed back on the road - or just drove anyway despite being banned.
All I can say is that the only answer seems to ratchet up enforcement and introduce even stiffer punishment. We can't afford to let people with several DUI convictions back on the road...at first it might seem harsh for a "non-violent" crime, but look at the aftermath of some of these collisions and tell me it's "non-violent".
All I can say is that the only answer seems to ratchet up enforcement and introduce even stiffer punishment. We can't afford to let people with several DUI convictions back on the road...at first it might seem harsh for a "non-violent" crime, but look at the aftermath of some of these collisions and tell me it's "non-violent".
I hate drunk drivers. I have no compassion for them, and believe that our country is way too lenient. My brother was killed by a drunk driver in the late sixties, before all the public talk about it, and the punishments are hardly any different than they were back then.
I believe you should get your license taken away for at least a year plus at least six months jail time on your first DUI offense, and then permanent revocation of license and prison for five years for your second offense.
That's not really true, and I have the unfortunate experience to prove it.
I was in two accidents 25 years apart. Both in Toyota Corollas, both involved the car I was in being T-Boned at an intersection and spinning around several times and being totaled.
In the first, in the mid-80's, we we're hit by a full-sized sedan. That early 80's Corolla really was a tin can; my mother and I both sustained injuries that have impacted us both to this day. They had to use the jaws of life to get us out of the mangled mess that was the wreckage of throat car.
In December of 2005, I was T-Boned by a Ford F250 while driving my 99 Corolla. I was spun around two and a half times, the car was completely totaled and mangled, but I walked away with a minor bump on the head and a sprained finger.
The car protected me so well, even without side-impact air bags, that I went out and bought another Corolla (with side air bags: I'm not reckless) with the insurance money. And when I buy another car in a few months, it'll be another. Great gas mileage + safety = a winning combination that'll keep getting my money.
I believe you should get your license taken away for at least a year plus at least six months jail time on your first DUI offense, and then permanent revocation of license and prison for five years for your second offense.
That's not really true, and I have the unfortunate experience to prove it.
I was in two accidents 25 years apart. Both in Toyota Corollas, both involved the car I was in being T-Boned at an intersection and spinning around several times and being totaled.
In the first, in the mid-80's, we we're hit by a full-sized sedan. That early 80's Corolla really was a tin can; my mother and I both sustained injuries that have impacted us both to this day. They had to use the jaws of life to get us out of the mangled mess that was the wreckage of throat car.
In December of 2005, I was T-Boned by a Ford F250 while driving my 99 Corolla. I was spun around two and a half times, the car was completely totaled and mangled, but I walked away with a minor bump on the head and a sprained finger.
The car protected me so well, even without side-impact air bags, that I went out and bought another Corolla (with side air bags: I'm not reckless) with the insurance money. And when I buy another car in a few months, it'll be another. Great gas mileage + safety = a winning combination that'll keep getting my money.
1) The deadliest kind of accident is a head on collision.
2)Seat belts and safety seats increase the passenger's chance of surviving and accident astronomically, provided that they are properly used.
I don't mean to throw gas on the fire, but the quote that victims were thrown from the car makes one think that they were not using (at least properly) the correct safety apparatus available to them.
Yes, it is horrible. However, I bet the outcome could have been better. If the kids were not properly restrained, then the blame should be shared.
Please note that I don't condone the intoxicated driver's actions. I do advocate protecting yourself and your loved ones from the bad things that can happen to you.
2)Seat belts and safety seats increase the passenger's chance of surviving and accident astronomically, provided that they are properly used.
I don't mean to throw gas on the fire, but the quote that victims were thrown from the car makes one think that they were not using (at least properly) the correct safety apparatus available to them.
Yes, it is horrible. However, I bet the outcome could have been better. If the kids were not properly restrained, then the blame should be shared.
Please note that I don't condone the intoxicated driver's actions. I do advocate protecting yourself and your loved ones from the bad things that can happen to you.
I hate drunk drivers. I have no compassion for them, and believe that our country is way too lenient. My brother was killed by a drunk driver in the late sixties, before all the public talk about it, and the punishments are hardly any different than they were back then.
My father was hit and severely injured by a drunk driver, he very nearly died. This happened before I was born, so I almost didn't show up at all. It was a hit and run, and the driver was never caught.
I agree, the law should have a very low tolerance. I think jail time on a first offense might have a positive effect.
Minivans have a habit of ejecting their rear passengers in serious accidents because the bench seats are more open and the sliding doors and rear hatch have a tendency to open in severe collisions.