Hostage Situation Reported at Apple Store in Amsterdam [Updated]

[Andretti]

So this story gets crazier. The guy was wearing real explosives, so forget about a robbery gone wrong. It seems that he was working as a delivery guy for a big supermarket chain and the delivery truck was parked outside the apple store

 

[Sophisticatednut]

In context, the post that person was quoting suggested that US police should take note that the suspect was taken down without firing a gun. It was a cheap potshot at US cops (or at US gun politics or both), since the use of lethal force clearly would have been authorized here. Hence the cop using his or her vehicle (hitting a suspect with a squad car is almost certainly using lethal force). It was frankly a poorly thought out post, and the person was calling the original poster out on it.

Not at all, it’s pointing out that even if lethal force with a firearm might be warranted, doesn’t mean it’s the correct or proper solution.

We always hear about us cops fearing for their life when they fire their weapons, and this is simply from lack of training and experience to keep your head cool.

 

[justperry]

The hostage taker died.

 

[AeroEngineer]

Not at all, it’s pointing out that even if lethal force with a firearm might be warranted, doesn’t mean it’s the correct or proper solution.

We always hear about us cops fearing for their life when they fire their weapons, and this is simply from lack of training and experience to keep your head cool.

Not here to weigh in on the use of deadly force or who is wrong or right on this. I would just like to point out that the "lawmen" in handling this situation were not your average "beat cops"/patrol officers. They are part of the DSI (Dienst Speciale Interventies - Special Intervention Service in English), a counter-terrorism unit. These guys are recruited from both police and armed forces (Dutch Marine Corps and military police). Of course it is speculation what would have happened if the situation would have been handled by the regular cops. In any case, as pointed out by @justperry, the perpetrator has succumbed to his injuries last night.

So this story gets crazier. The guy was wearing real explosives, so forget about a robbery gone wrong. It seems that he was working as a delivery guy for a big supermarket chain and the delivery truck was parked outside the apple store

The guy had been arrested earlier for unlawful possession of a firearm, assaulting his ex-gf and had a history of "confused behavior".

 

[ja']

what the hell is wrong with some of you posting in the thread‽ ?