No it doesn't. Same everything cept a GPU overclock that still makes it slower at rMBP native than a cMBP at 1440x900 native res. And you can overclock it to the same in Windows.
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How about a thicker rMBP?
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No it doesn't. Same everything cept a GPU overclock that still makes it slower at rMBP native than a cMBP at 1440x900 native res. And you can overclock it to the same in Windows.
Lol. If it is designed by Ive, then it works wonders and many people will buy it fingers in the nose...
How so? What performance is the rMBP lacking?
Exactly, we're talking about a pro computer. Why would you want ancient technology like hdd in a pro computer? I want speed. If you want huge amounts of storage then use an external.
Like I said, external is a huge pain in the neck. It's a laptop, you move around the house with it. With the internal, you just don't care. You bring the laptop with you, no hassles. With the external, you're going to even forget it's in there, then it falls when you leave. I hate it when that happens.
Then when you're on the go, you just have to put it in the bag, dig around for it, get the cables knotted, stuff like that. And it's just plain clunky. I'm fine if there's a 2TB Flash drive but THIS? This is unacceptable.
768GB is unacceptable? No. Going back to an old slower technology would be unacceptable. SSDs are the future, as they should be. Going back to HDD would be a step back in performance, not a step forward. It's unfortunate if that doesn't quite suit your needs.
Nope. You're putting words in the OP's mouth. The OP thinks there's a false dichotomy of thin or power.
I guess thick = more blue smoke inside.
You want a system that can run high end graphic pro apps, has 10 hrs of battery life and 2TB of storage. Sorry not invented yet. Maybe around 2015. To get all day battery life the system has to be designed from the ground up with battery life as a primary criteria, like on the iOS devices and they aren't remotely close to 2TB or running the pro apps. 2 TB SSD's with good performance are in the 6-10k range and I don't know of any that are designed to function off a laptop's limited electrical power.
Even with the cMBP you would likely need 2-3 batteries to be using it hard all day though you could get the rest. And that isn't enough energy to drive a retina display.
I am afraid you got it all wrong. The rMBP is already as powerful as some of the 4kg Windows gaming laptops. I don't see how making it bigger would make it more powerful at all (sure, you could slap a faster GPU in it which would kill the battery).
But the rMBP is hardly a desktop replacement. If you are a Pro and you need a desktop then you will get one. Most people want a mobile workstation and thats what a laptop is supposed to be. Weight and size are crucial here.
Which is why upgradability is so important. I currently have 2Tb of hard drive storage in my MBP (2 x 1Tb), but as soon as 1Tb SSDs are available and sensibly-priced, I'll upgrade to those. I would be very, very loathe to buy a machine I couldn't upgrade as technology moves on.
If your only useing it at home:
Get a NAS and connect it to your (W)LAN (*doh*)
If your really going on a move (at which point you would swear about every extra pound):
Look in Cloud-services and be more carefully in what you store on system and what online.
It's never been a pain to me in the least. I have plenty of room on the internal storage, and I carry a couple external drives for when I need them...which isn't extremely often. People seem to act like an external drive that weighs a couple ounces is such a burdon...I don't get it.
The MBP and RMBP are targeting two different types of users - why else do you think Apple is offering them both for sale? Obviously the RMBP is not for you and the regular MBP is a better option if you need to take 2 TB of storage with you internally. However, that does not mean the RMBP isn't the ideal laptop for many other people, myself included.
Apple still makes a model that suits your needs, why not just be happy with that instead of bad-mouthing a product that wasn't designed for you anyway?
Apple is testing waters... It will probably provide some numbers during the iPhone/MiniIPAD presentation....
I don't think it is bad-mouthing... What is behind those statements is the fear of many Pro users to be forced by Apple in a near future to choose only one model (rMBP) that doesn't fit their expectations...
Realistically, they should've done both. Made the rMBP as it is today, and offer the screen as an upgrade on the cMBP.
Right now the rMBP is probably selling better because the screen seriously is amazing and worth the upgrade. But if they offered the same screen on the cMBP - I probably would've opted for that instead. I suspect there are others too.
Apple will interpret the current sales figures as people preferring the smaller form factor and switch everything to that. But they're skewing the results by not offering the retina screen in the classic form factor.
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Is it inconceivable that there may be users that can take advantage of the high-resolution *and* the cMBP's more "pro" features? I think it's justified for those users to complain.
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This is a thread asking people for their opinions about a hypothetical thicker rMBP. I offered my opinion on the circumstances in which I'd accept a thicker rMBP.
I understand Apple will do what it wants to do. Which is why I ended up buying an rMBP - the screen is more important to me than those other features. But that doesn't mean I can't express my opinion on what my ideal machine would be.
But no Retina Display.
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You wouldn't want to pay thousands of dollars for a scratch disk, would you? Sometimes, HDD is just enough.
once you use all ssds on a regular basis, hdd is NEVER enough! HDDs are good for storing media..that's about it. And for media, external usb3 drives are awesome! Tho I love my external usb3 SSD that reads and writes at 200MB/s!!
they added back in uncompressed formats, output to tape and edl import/export. I would say it is once again a professional application.
Since when have you seen an everyday consumer with their lousy 360p cameras doing chroma keying, color correction and stabilization on FCP X?
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You might have an external SSD, but how huge is it, 64? 128? SSDs are expensive. And usually even overpriced.
Pro users who uses pro apps such as Logic Pro and Final Cut Studio needs scratch disks. And depending on their project, it could go up to 50 terabytes. SSD just simply cannot fit in their budget. Besides, I used a HDD before, it wasn't that horrible when it comes to playing 1080p.
On the other hand, SSD might be lightning fast, but it isn't needed. If a Hard drive can play 1080p smoothly, then that's what they need. They aren't going to store their apps there, anyway. It's on their local SSD.
It's not necessarily going backwards when you choose to use HDD. Sometimes, HDD is enough for some things.
I think his point is that a thicker MBP would allow space for more and/or better components. I am not sure if this is necessarily the case though.
I too can argue that if you are using the Rmbp as a desktop replacement, it would theoretically be plugged in 24/7, so why emphasise the battery life so much? Apparently, Apple believes the majority of consumers care enough about the weight and portability of a 15" workhorse laptop enough that they go out of their way to slim down the existing MBP to such an extent, rather than simply being an aesthetic change with no practical implications.
And I agree. Laptops shouldn't be honking big 17" titans that break the back of anyone trying to lug them around.
Actually, that's exactly what I do.
I might not be a 'professional' yet, but as a last year student going into the film/media industry, I need something that's super portable and powerful. Honestly, if portability isn't an issue, why get a laptop?
Portability is not that much of an issue. You will still need portability (Maybe if you go to work and go home), but you will not really need thinness. Besides, the cMBP looks great already. And I'm willing to sacrifice a few millimeters for a better graphics card.