How about this setup for a 2018 mac mini.

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by philipma1957, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. philipma1957, Nov 3, 2018
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    philipma1957 macrumors 603

    philipma1957

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    #1
    Buy the base unit >>>>>>>>>>>> 800
    Get the i7 upgrade>>>>>>>>>>> 300
    Buy 3 sticks of 8gb ram>>>>>>>> 150
    Buy an egpu with a rx580>>>>>>> 550
    Buy an external TB3 ssd 500gb >>> 279
    total cost 2079

    add a killer screen say a 32 inch 4k for 800

    you are at 2879

    an imac I configured would have a

    5k 27 inch with
    an older cpu
    same gpu
    32gb of slower ram
    and a 512gb ssd at a cost of 3300
     
  2. dafodeu macrumors member

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    Only has 2 Ram slots so don't buy 3 sticks of ram.
     
  3. redheeler macrumors 604

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    The Mac mini only has two slots, so I'll assume you meant 2x8 GB. The cheapest price I've been able to find for 2x8 GB 260-pin at 2666 MHz is just short of $200, so at this point you might as well BTO with 16 GB, unless you want to put in slightly slower RAM...
     
  4. StellarVixen macrumors 68000

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    You need to buy your Mac Mini with i7 preinstalled, if you want i7, you cannot add it later, unless you intend to do a reball and void the warranty, which is not worth it at all.
     
  5. redheeler macrumors 604

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    It's far from a "killer screen" once you compare it to the 27" 5K. Frustrating that Apple didn't give the iMacs a refresh this year, as the built-in display usually makes them a better value overall compared to buying the Mac mini and a display to go with it.
    $300 is the price to BTO the base model with an i7, so I think that's what he meant.
     
  6. Boyd01 macrumors 601

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    I'm not clear on what you really want? 16gb total? If so, you can get the i7/16gb/512gb Mini directly from Apple for $1699. So, setting aside the eGPU, that is $170 more than your proposal. I would go for that since the SSD will be faster and you won't have to mess with your own RAM (still seems unclear whether that will void the warranty).

    Now if you actually want a 32gb machine, that's another matter. But as the others have said, there are only two slots so you will need to throw away the pre-installed 8gb and replace with two 16gb sticks.
     
  7. philipma1957 thread starter macrumors 603

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    The i3 configure on apples website allows you to upgrade to the i7
     
  8. StellarVixen macrumors 68000

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    OK, OK, I thought you wanted to buy the i3 and then upgrade on your own. My bad.
     
  9. archer75 macrumors 68020

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    What you get depends entirely on what your needs are.
     
  10. D.T. macrumors G3

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    Yeah, if you go i3 >> i7 and are good with 128GB of internal storage, that saves you $200 ($1099 vs. $1299).

    I have a couple friends - who are also developers - and they go fairly low on internal storage (and opt for external like DAS/NAS). I can see that making a little more sense with a Mini (i.e., desktop vs. notebook/portable).
     
  11. philipma1957 thread starter macrumors 603

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    Seems to me it is pretty good for under 3k

    The key is order the i3 ungraded to the i7

    barebone the ram
    barebone the ssd.

    Add on ssd will just get cheaper.

    The mini will have 2 attachments an egpu and a big ssd.


    Yeah I did but the cpu is the i3 8300b and the i7 8300b which are mobile. they said these are desk top but intel says they are mobile.

    I thought that it would be the i3 8300 and the i7 8700.

    Socket is different

    FCBGA1440INTE

    L® CORE™






    i7-8700B PROCESSOR


    (12M Cache, up to 4.60 G
    Technical Specifications

    Essentials
    Vertical Segment
    Mobile
    Processor Number
    i7-8700B
    Status
    Launched
    Launch Date
    Q2'18
    Lithography
    14 nm

    Performance
    # of Cores
    6
    # of Threads
    12
    Processor Base Frequency
    3.20 GHz
    Max Turbo Frequency
    4.60 GHz
    Cache
    12 MB SmartCache
    Bus Speed
    8 GT/s DMI3
    TDP
    65.0 W

    Supplemental Information
    Embedded Options Available
    No

    Memory Specifications
    Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
    64 GB
    Memory Types
    DDR4-2666
    Max # of Memory Channels
    2
    ECC Memory Supported ‡
    No

    Graphics Specifications
    Graphics Base Frequency
    350.0 MHz
    Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency
    1.20 GHz
    Graphics Video Max Memory
    64 GB
    4K Support
    Yes, at 60Hz
    Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4)‡
    4096x2304@30Hz
    Max Resolution (DP)‡
    4096x2304@60Hz
    Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel)‡
    4096x2304@60Hz
    DirectX* Support
    12
    OpenGL* Support
    4.5
    Intel® Quick Sync Video
    Yes
    Intel® InTru™ 3D Technology
    Yes
    Intel® Clear Video HD Technology
    Yes
    Intel® Clear Video Technology
    Yes
    # of Displays Supported ‡
    3
    Device ID
    0x3E9B

    Expansion Options
    PCI Express Revision
    3.0
    PCI Express Configurations ‡
    Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
    Max # of PCI Express Lanes
    16

    Package Specifications
    Sockets Supported
    FCBGA1440
    Max CPU Configuration
    1
    TJUNCTION
    100°C
    Package Size
    42mm x 28mm
    Low Halogen Options Available
    See MDDS

    Advanced Technologies
    Intel® Optane™ Memory Supported ‡
    Yes
    Intel® Turbo Boost Technology ‡
    2.0
    Intel® vPro Technology ‡
    No
    Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
    Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
    Yes
    Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
    Yes
    Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
    Yes
    Intel® TSX-NI
    Yes
    Intel® 64 ‡
    Yes
    Instruction Set
    64-bit
    Instruction Set Extensions
    Intel® SSE4.1,Intel® SSE4.2,Intel® AVX2
    Idle States
    Yes
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
    Yes
    Thermal Monitoring Technologies
    Yes
    Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
    Yes
    Intel® Stable Image Platform Program (SIPP)
    No

    Security & Reliability
    Intel® AES New Instructions
    Yes
    Secure Key
    Yes
    Intel® Software Guard Extensions (Intel® SGX)
    Yes
    Intel® Memory Protection Extensions (Intel® MPX)
    Yes
    OS Guard
    Yes
    Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
    Yes
    Execute Disable Bit ‡
    Yes
    Intel® Boot Guard

    NoHz)

    INTEL® CORE™ i7-8700B PROCESSOR


    (1
    INTEL® CORE™ i7-8700B PROCESSOR


    (12M Cache, up to 4.60 GHz)
    [​IMG]2M Cache, up to 4.60 GHz)
    [​IMG]
     

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  12. StellarVixen, Nov 3, 2018
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    StellarVixen macrumors 68000

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    The only difference is mount. One is LGA and other is BGA. Other than that, it is exactly the same chip. That's probably why Apple calls it "non mobile", this is not the chip from MBP.

    EDIT: And i3 appears to be custom made i3-8100B
     
  13. F-Train, Nov 3, 2018
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    Without knowing what this machine will be used for, my gut reaction to reading this is that I’d be inclined to spend the extra $400 on the iMac (based on at least one post above, it looks like the difference may actually be less than that).
     
  14. killawat macrumors 65816

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    Your prices are all on the high side. The official eGPU kit from sonnet is available @ $399 today. External TB3 SSD, that's probably a luxury option and unless you have an NVMe SSD you won't get past SATA III speeds. If you DYI you can get a 1TB SSD for closer to $200.
     
  15. philipma1957 thread starter macrumors 603

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    Yeah you can do

    800 base
    300 i7
    50 8gb ram

    1150

    Wait on a screen

    Pretty sure that would be good.

    I have four tb1 enclosures I assume this will work with a t1case.
     
  16. Neodym macrumors 68000

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    ... and then there are those setups, where 2 or even 3 nice screens already do exist and an iMac would make no sense (esp. with Target Display mode not available anymore on recent iMacs).
     
  17. SkiHound2 macrumors regular

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    It's the 8700 b and is soldered to the board. Upgrading cpus after purchase is a non-starter.
     
  18. philipma1957 thread starter macrumors 603

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    Learn to read better you are repeating earlier posts in the thread
     

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