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Don't over-estimate China's reliance on the US. Europe and Asia are already mature markets for them, and since the western world starting imposing sanctions on Russia following the invasion of Ukraine, Russia has been spending billions on building bridges, road and railways between it an China to facilitate trade between the two countries. That's effectively taken the two strongest economies in BRICs and let them build their own bilateral trade bloc.
Live look at USA relevance on the international stage
That’s the way it is. Trumpists will dismiss this as mainstream anti Trump propaganda.
Edit: They either don't know (plain stupidity), don't care, or will say that Trump is not comparable at all.
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It's a truly informative and factual video.
I'd encourage any/all to watch it.
Everyone can learn something interesting here.
Agree. Trump followers will doubt the factuality ofcourse. Hardcore Trump voters are like Trump himself…never admit they're wrong…never as in NEVER.
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Yeah -- it's sad to watch, as many of us have many friends/family captured by the cult.
Like all cults and their members ... the ones "in it", naturally, have the hardest time realizing that is so.
My brother has views that literally twist in the wind simply based upon whatever Don or Tucker or Jesse Watters happen to have gone off about on any given day or week.
I don't need to watch any of that content to know the crux of it ... my brother is like a parrot who absorbs it and repeats it verbatim.
You're kidding. We need China way more than they need us. Trump's Taylor Made golf clubs are made in China.
If I had to go around and take note of all the things in my house either made in China or with components made in China, I'd be doing it all weekend long and still not be done.
Americans (some of us at least) seem to have ZERO clue how dependent the US is on China.
Don't just think about completed products, but all the things that go inside of products or the things that go inside of the things that make the things that go inside of your things.
Think all the way down to tiny screws and even the finishes used on them or the tooling to make them ... or components of the tooling used to make the tiny screws ... that level of detail can find traces of China up and down every single thing in your American life.
I stay where I am - the nordic Countries are happiest 🥳
Good economic freedom too.
I like the Northern countries, Switzerland are not bad either.
I visited the US 5 times I think. I thought US had more freedom before those visits - but I learned plenty.
Source: https://www.uniwide.com/articles/top-50-richest-countries-in-the-world/
Good economic freedom too.
I like the Northern countries, Switzerland are not bad either.
I visited the US 5 times I think. I thought US had more freedom before those visits - but I learned plenty.
Source: https://www.uniwide.com/articles/top-50-richest-countries-in-the-world/
I have visited the USA many years ago. Beautiful country with many friendly people!
Friends of mine visited the USA at least twice a year, year after year (because their son is married to an American woman. They live in Florida). During their last 2 visits (October last year and March this year), they already noted growing tension and anxiety. People seemed afraid to talk about politics, afraid to step on toes and especially hesitant to talk about Trump. Society seems to get more and more polarised.
They did not book their next visit to Florida….they want to wait and see how things develop in the US. Maybe not visiting again this year…next year (?)…ever (?).
So sad! I really feel for you, Americans who see and notice how the USA is suffering and going down more and more under this "regime".
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LOL... this a me too moment because my brother is also down the Trump rabbit hole. I have actually disowned him.
It seems this whole Trump thing is even splitting families. That alone should be enough reason to fight him.
The most pernicious part of it is how they resist/deny/deflect from any presentation about how their OWN views and opinions have changed all the time.
They are unreachable when they won't even listen to themselves from the past.
My brother used to be a diehard traditional family values Conservative.
Russia was evil and not to be trusted.
Now?
I don't have to tell you...
I feel bad for your family. My wife and I agreed something had to be done, but our votes were split. We still can discuss our political differences in a civil way.
My bro in law was a dyed-in-the-wool democrat. For his entire life, and he voted for trump. Yep, the dems needed to be shown the door, maybe they’ll come back in the middle in 2028 and be for America first instead of this other nonsense.
So I hope the end game is worth it.
Problem is that this isn't politics anymore. This is overt anti-constitutional behavior, overt corruption and destruction of our institutions and overt law breaking. There is simply no common ground or valid discussion points. You either support a criminal or you don't. If you do, you are dead to me and belong in jail with him.
2028….judging by the speed things are done right now…there could be no 2028 elections.
Agreed.
It's beyond normal political debate when one group is totally ok with ignoring all the rules and laws and court orders and defying judges .. on and on.
That also happens to be the group that claimed to be all about "law & order"
You can't play a fair game of football if one squad wants to rig the refs and even then ignore them when they don't like the ref enforcing the rules... even when it's a ref THEY selected.
When some people 100% blindly believe in a person/administration and the media that blindly supports them, there is really no point in explaining logic, or economic basics. Yet they will immediately “gotcha moment” everyone when a market rebounds for a day from a self induced, and corrupt, collapse. Or a couple hundred manufacturing or farming jobs come back, yet ignore the ten fold of other small businesses and jobs ending due to the same tariffs. You can support your “tribe” yet still be critical of your own, its how things get better. Doesn't help that this tribe’s leader ends/cancels/sues or disappears anyone critical or with even the slightest of criticism or disagreement based on logic. Man, as much as we think we evolve, history keeps repeating itself. Frustrating and fascinating at the same time.
If one watches this objectively it's literally impossible to not see SO MANY parallels to what's going on right now in the US.
Top two: inflation and immigration.
Well .. 50% hit rate at least - lol
Amazing in Baseball .. ok for shooting % in Basketball ... but gets you cut in Basketball if that's from the free throw line.
I said that the reactions of Trump enthousiasts/voters on the excellent video @turbineseaplane has posted, will be more or less predictable. I still hope for their serious comments, without the stereotypical "false media" / "not Trump" / "Democrat lies"/ "all lies" simplistic one sentence comments