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How Apple Could Navigate Trump's Tariffs, According to Gurman
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The idea that Apple could do anything to regain the lost profit is ridiculous. If Apple can add to their total revenue by raising the services pricing, they will (and should) do that regardless. No matter what, this will hurt Apple’s business, which is why their stock goes down. No one sane believes there is any winner in this game.
Nothing other countries do will satisfy Trump because he is focused on trade deficits as if it’s a negative. He evidently really doesn’t understand what a trade deficit is.
As such there can’t be a zero deficit because other countries cannot afford to buy as much as the U.S. buys from them. He’s asking them to do something they are incapable of doing.
At some point they will turn to make deals elsewhere and turn their backs on the U.S. They’ll walk away and the U.S. will be left empty handed.
Those dreaming this is some genius tactic (from a guy with multiple failed companies and bankruptcies) are dreaming in HD because none of what they imagine is going to happen.
As such there can’t be a zero deficit because other countries cannot afford to buy as much as the U.S. buys from them. He’s asking them to do something they are incapable of doing.
At some point they will turn to make deals elsewhere and turn their backs on the U.S. They’ll walk away and the U.S. will be left empty handed.
Those dreaming this is some genius tactic (from a guy with multiple failed companies and bankruptcies) are dreaming in HD because none of what they imagine is going to happen.
Correct. We don’t need new iPhones right now. We need to fix our country. Also any increase will be permanent even if tariffs drop because Apple is evil.
Yes, all the extremely smart people around him (many whom even the dems like) know far less than you about all of this.
LOL. Man the arrogance.
That's true for any for-profit company. The point is more that Apple has no magic solution that will negate the effect of tariffs, so they will have to figure out which combination of measures will mitigate them the most.
That's great for companies selling stuff to Vietnam but USA has 46% tariff on Vietnam
I don’t think you understood what I said - that is exactly my point. They will do whatever they can to maximise profit. Whatever they could do to maximise profits with tariffs, they will do without tariffs.
(But no, I am not an Apple shareholder. My money is in real estate)
It’s not ugly at all. All stock is on sale right now which is the price your 401k is buying at. Don’t you know how to make money yet?
No country is turning their back on the US. You are on something if you think that will happen.
Except those other countries have zero tariffs on USA already, trump is complaining about trade deficits not tariffs other countries have on USA (he is mad that Americans are buying more stuff from other countries than them buying American products)
The formula trump made up explains it.
Presidential Tariff Actions
For the Presidential actions taken pursuant to his authority under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), see below:
Hint: they are buying less from USA because they are poor
That's true, but only if you have further resources to invest and/or can afford to wait for the market to rise again. For those that had already their resources invested or cannot wait it's a different story.
Especially if they are in a situation where they need to sell their investments in the short term because they need cash now, they might be facing significant losses.
The formula they used is made under the explicit assumption that the trade deficit should eventually balance and if it's persistently unbalanced there must be factors preventing trade to balance out.
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It is flatly preposterous even to suggest that smaller economies should equal the purchasing of larger ones.
The term “formula” is pretty generous for the silly bit of long division Trump’s “experts” used in tossing together his ludicrous tariff rates. They couldn’t even be bothered to work with a list of actual trading partners, which is why we’re punishing the penguins.
You can’t lose if you don’t sell and most companies have 401k dedications built it. You don’t even notice it. Just enjoy the boom later on.
The US is not a charity.
Just take a deep breath and… relax.
Trump always ends up right in the end.
Don’t let the left drown you in anxiety.
Patience….
Trump always ends up right in the end.
Don’t let the left drown you in anxiety.
Patience….
The US is just 340 million. It's just foolish take on the rest of 7.7 billion of this planet Earth.
It’s becoming a pretty crappy trading partner, though.
That’s not even the biggest issue. The issue is that all of this creates uncertainty and distrust. Who in their right mind would invest billions in manufacturing in a country where you can’t trust the government to not disrupt your business on a whim? Especially when the government publicly states that the end game is to make “deals” which might make it feasible to resume shipping from Asia. It’s just as likely that investments already planned will be put on hold due to this.
When companies like Apple and Nike can’t trust their own government to support them, why should Samsung and Adidas?
When you are buying a pair of shoes in Walmart, are you performing a “charity” to Walmart?