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I was using Vietnam as an example of tariff negotiations, the numbers are not relevant to my point.
Of course they are relevant. You brought them up, then backed it up with a source. Do you understand the numbers that YOU brought up, or not?

If you can’t back up the number you used to back your point, your point is invalidated, not just the numbers. Which is fitting, because neither IS valid.
 
So push most Americans into poverty. Thats likely not what they were voting for. Thats 19th century America.
19th century America is literally what Trump voters voted for. Trump has stated numerous times that the US of 1870-1913 is what he wants to go back to. That is what MAGA means. Literally.
 
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No, MAGA literally means "Make America Great Again". Which is what we're doing. Just you wait.
And Trump has stated repeatedly that “again” refers to the times around the year 1900. What did you think “again” meant?

And if you don’t mind, since Trump won’t tell us: Exactly how long should we “just wait”, while watching the economy being blown to pieces?
 
And Trump has stated repeatedly that “again” refers to the times around the year 1900. What did you think “again” meant?

And if you don’t mind, since Trump won’t tell us: Exactly how long should we “just wait”, while watching the economy being blown to pieces?
Actually it's more like Trump wants us to go back to the 80s again (which would be great). His comments on the year you mentioned are regarding tariff and income tax changes in the US and were used as examples. You are (as all democrats do) taking his comments WAY out of context and applying your own propaganda BS to them.
 
Of course they are relevant. You brought them up, then backed it up with a source. Do you understand the numbers that YOU brought up, or not?

If you can’t back up the number you used to back your point, your point is invalidated, not just the numbers. Which is fitting, because neither IS valid.
This is why I regret talking politics, everything just turns into argument and anger. What do you think about the rumored PowerPook G5? 😅
 
This is why I regret talking politics, everything just turns into argument and anger. What do you think about the rumored PowerPook G5? 😅
The anger comes when people are spitting out unfounded claims and then don’t even want to try to back them up, treating it like it’s all a joke. If people actually think critically about facts, it’s totally possible to have a civil political discussion.
 
The anger comes when people are spitting out unfounded claims and then don’t even want to try to back them up, treating it like it’s all a joke. If people actually think critically about facts, it’s totally possible to have a civil political discussion.
My comment was a polite way of saying I am not going to continue the discussion.
 
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My comment was a polite way of saying I am not going to continue the discussion.
That is in itself rude. “Polite” would have been to say “OK, I spoke about things I don’t know enough about. You were right and I was wrong”. It’s not that hard.
 
That is in itself rude. “Polite” would have been to say “OK, I spoke about things I don’t know enough about. You were right and I was wrong”. It’s not that hard.
I don’t believe I’m wrong and you don’t believe you are wrong, you won’t convince me and I won’t convince you of otherwise. It is illogical to continue.
 
I don’t believe I’m wrong and you don’t believe you are wrong, you won’t convince me and I won’t convince you of otherwise. It is illogical to continue.
What is illogical is to continue posting that you don’t want to continue posting. What is logical is to stop defending a point that was clearly wrong, when you run out of arguments. I just find it sad that you won’t even acknowledge that a claimed fact you posted was factually wrong. It’s like saying “2+2 is 5”, and when someone corrects you, you “don’t want to continue the discussion”. This is rude.

Sorry, but I don’t find it meaningless to correct inaccurate information. Make of that what you will.
 
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Apple is not a charity. There's no reason for them to lower their margins. The voters elected to pay higher prices through increased consumption taxes on imported goods. This tax cost is to be passed on to the people who voted for it.
Considering the profit that Apple makes, they are in a position to absorb a certain amount of tariff without passing on the full amount to the consumer.

Some of the prices for things like say memory bumps are ridiculous.
 
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MAGA can be achieved by letting other countries make their own nations great again—otherwise, it’s a bit like the playground bully going on a rampage. There are far more people in the world to do business with than the 340 million in the US. America’s managed to make both its neighbours proper unfriendly towards the US. It’s always better to have mates next door, isn’t it?
 
Considering the profit that Apple makes, they are in a position to absorb a certain amount of tariff without passing on the full amount to the consumer.

Some of the prices for things like say memory bumps are ridiculous.
Apple have been in a position to 'absorb' price increases for decades but they refuse to do so because it would affect their profits. This is business, Apple are not friends with their suppliers. To prevent price increases to customers but still maintain their profits, Apple will force their suppliers to reduce their costs. Suppliers need to make a profit as well so if they hold firm, Apple have three choices, find a new supplier, stick with their suppliers and raise prices of their products or absorb the price increases which would reduce affect their yearly profits. The last one will never happen.
 
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When I purchased my Mac Mini M4, it never reached US soil—it simply travelled from China through a few European countries to me. All Apple needs to do is sell more outside the US to earn their profit, without dealing with these daft tariffs.
 
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What is illogical is to continue posting that you don’t want to continue posting. What is logical is to stop defending a point that was clearly wrong, when you run out of arguments. I just find it sad that you won’t even acknowledge that a claimed fact you posted was factually wrong. It’s like saying “2+2 is 5”, and when someone corrects you, you “don’t want to continue the discussion”. This is rude.

Sorry, but I don’t find it meaningless to correct inaccurate information. Make of that what you will.
What do you think about the new alleged iOS redesign?
 
Of course, this isn't really about tariffs, but about trade deficits. Look at the BS calculation they used. Gotta love they way they toss in some Greek letters to make it pretend mathematical. But, even if you believe trade deficits are bad, which I don't, how does it make sense to wipe out $10 T in market value (and counting) to address a $900B trade deficit? That's like treating a hang nail by cutting off your leg.
 
Of course, this isn't really about tariffs, but about trade deficits.
To eliminate trade deficits, Americans should commence manufacturing high-quality products at a lower cost. The global market will not remain static until this occurs. The trade deficit will only continue to increase otherwise.
 
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First, trade deficits per se are not necessarily a bad thing. This isn't just about manufactured goods, but natural resources and other commodities. There is no way we can "make" or acquire locally a lot of stuff we import. Stuff we simply do not have here. So, to say that we must have equal trade with every country we trade with is ridiculous on its face. And, second, there is no way the US can compete for manufacturing when it comes to cost. But that's the beauty of free trade. Everyone does what they are good and efficient at and everyone benefits.

To eliminate trade deficits, Americans should commence manufacturing high-quality products at a lower cost. The global market will not remain static until this occurs. The trade deficit will only continue to increase otherwise.
 
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