How Apple May Be Lining Up an All-Screen iPhone for 2027

[Zenman12]

The display real estate is the biggest drawback now for me with 14 (even the island is distracting despite being cool and helpful). The less the better. Full display without anything is best (with less bezel too). Followed by the embarrassing USB 2 and 3 tech (ridiculous to pay $600 to $1100 for tech from 2000 and 2008). And battery resilience (easy to damage and expand).

I do think, in Apple fashion the Face ID will go under the display and face cameras will make the island smaller. Apple does things in increments usually.

 

[t0rqx]

I have never had that problem with my 17 Pro Max and I don’t have it with my 17 Pro either. I only had the Pro Max a week though before I returned it to get the Pro.

In what specific scenario do you encounter this, and how widespread is it?

As far as I know. Widespread, all iPhone 17 Pro Max have it. One worse than the other.

Plugin the iPhone 17 PM to charge and listen to the bottom speaker you will hear a jossing noise, depending what you do on your phone if it is stressing the sound will get louder.

Already received info from employees its a hardware issue they will not be able to fix with updates via software.

 

[elrojo69]

It seems like this rumor pops up every year

 

[EugW]

As far as I know. Widespread, all iPhone 17 Pro Max have it. One worse than the other.

Plugin the iPhone 17 PM to charge and listen to the bottom speaker you will hear a jossing noise, depending what you do on your phone if it is stressing the sound will get louder.

Already received info from employees its a hardware issue they will not be able to fix with updates via software.

Well, I didn't have that problem. And I just confirmed again just now it doesn't happen on my 17 Pro. I plugged it in and ran Geekbench.

 

[turbineseaplane]

"All screen" .. ok, sure, fine

Can the "all screen" have a smaller screen, please?

 

[the 12th Doctor]

This rumor has got to stop. This thing is never happening. That would require innovation and this company lost the meaning of that way back.

 

[ThailandToo]

Sam

I can't wait to see the garbage phone Samsung ships based on a complete misunderstanding of this rumor.

Samsung makes Apple’s high-end displays and just like they will use Apple’s tech for their next fold they will use this for their cameras to rid them from the display which should be free of all BS since it’s the user interface and all the user wants to see is content not punch outs, not islands and definitely not notches. Anyone who says they love the notch or island is missing the picture here - a slab of glass that only shows content on it.

 

[Saturn1217]

I have wanted the notch gone since Apple first introduced the iPhone X before I even switched to iOS.

But I’m actually using the Dynamic Island for the first time on this iPhone 17 Pro Max and it just doesn’t feel so bad anymore? Apple could solve the existing issues easily with software if they chose (just always give users the option to force pictures and videos to the inner rectangle of the display).

The next big hardware upgrade I’d like to see is eventually finding a solution to this camera hump issue. A sleek all screen iPhone 20 that still has a camera plateau on the back doesn’t feel that special. I know physics is an issue but surely there something that can be done.

 

[techspin]

Not happening. Seems like this leaker just says whatever they want.

Also, my brain doesn't like this AI image. The hand seems to have the right number of digits. Maybe it's the weird fold in the back of hand?

 

[d686546s]

There's no reason in this time, that both can't be included. let the users decide what they want to use.

The problem with FaceID on a foldable (unless it's a flip phone) is that you'd need the whole camera array twice -- once on the outer screen and then again in the bigger screen inside. That and adding a whole other layer of biometric authentication would almost certainly add cost.

In that case it's probably easier to just add TouchID in a location that's accessible whether the phone is unfolded or not and call it a day.

 

[Rychiar]

Johnny Ives famous unusable designs... ugh you'd have to baby that thing as bad as a Vision Pro except it actually has to be out in the world daily with you

 

[techspin]

I have wanted the notch gone since Apple first introduced the iPhone X before I even switched to iOS.

But I’m actually using the Dynamic Island for the first time on this iPhone 17 Pro Max and it just doesn’t feel so bad anymore? Apple could solve the existing issues easily with software if they chose (just always give users the option to force pictures and videos to the inner rectangle of the display).

The next big hardware upgrade I’d like to see is eventually finding a solution to this camera hump issue. A sleek all screen iPhone 20 that still has a camera plateau on the back doesn’t feel that special. I know physics is an issue but surely there something that can be done.

Guys, it's not a notch. It's a dynamic plateau. 🦾

 

[turbineseaplane]

Next leak:

"iPhone Sphere being worked on"
"View it from all directions"

 

[yossi]

The screen will be edge to edge. It will not curve over the edge, or bleed over onto the side. Those are rediculous features. There will be a fractional frame and nothing else. All cameras and sensors under the screen

 

[Skyscraperfan]

How can you put a sticker on an underscreen camera without hiding parts of the screen?

 

[Zenman12]

I have wanted the notch gone since Apple first introduced the iPhone X before I even switched to iOS.

But I’m actually using the Dynamic Island for the first time on this iPhone 17 Pro Max and it just doesn’t feel so bad anymore? Apple could solve the existing issues easily with software if they chose (just always give users the option to force pictures and videos to the inner rectangle of the display).

The next big hardware upgrade I’d like to see is eventually finding a solution to this camera hump issue. A sleek all screen iPhone 20 that still has a camera plateau on the back doesn’t feel that special. I know physics is an issue but surely there something that can be done.

I was in the Apple store and while I prefer nothing, I would prefer the island over the notch. It has useful features that require additional button presses or widgets you need to add that are you don’t need to do with the island. Granted, it’s still better to have nothing but the island is better than the notch in terms of usefulness. iPhone 13/14 user.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I'd prefer they make the screen a fully usable for content rectangle again and put the camera/faceID guts in the bezel.

 

[FatLouie]

Being the Luddite that I am, I was never bothered by the notch, dynamic island, hole ... or whatever. But I also do not spend hours a day entertaining my mind with my cell phone.

 

[Mr_Ed]

Next leak:

"iPhone Sphere being worked on"
"View it from all directions"

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Yeah, like that would be a new Apple idea 😁

 

[HazeAndHahmahneez]

Notch. It’s a notch. It will evaporate eventually, as per the roadmap of 3 years back.

“Dynamic Island” is the fancy shmancy marketing term Apple used for the software overlay so people would throw the rose coloured glasses on and forget about the notch.

It’s not a notch. It’s an island. Look up the definitions or I’ll teach you some english if that doesn’t work. LMK peace

I don't see the all glass happening. My guess is probably even less or no bezels.

Have faith. This is Apple. If anyone’s going to do it gracefully and with privacy and self-respect in mind, it’ll be Apple….Certainly not Sammy/google. Gross…

Johnny Ives famous unusable designs... ugh you'd have to baby that thing as bad as a Vision Pro except it actually has to be out in the world daily with you

IDK…I’ve dropped. My 16 Max phone face down caseless on these rugged uneven New England streets more than once and zero shattered glass…I can certainly see Apple successfully creating a tough durable all exposed phone..

Next leak:

"iPhone Sphere being worked on"
"View it from all directions"

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Very curious: where exactly is this image from? Is it an Apple-created design or something?…

 

[turbineseaplane]

Very curious: where exactly is this image from? Is it an Apple-created design or something?…

Just a web search for "iPhone sphere"

 

[Mr_Ed]

I'd prefer they make the screen a fully usable for content rectangle again and put the camera/faceID guts in the bezel.

I've always felt the punching of notches or holes in the screen was kind of an unforced error on Apple's part. I't not like they would have sold fewer phones if they had prioritized function over form just on that issue and put camera/face id stuff on a small bezel.

I'm also surprised how many people say Dynamic Island is "great" because they "use it." It's almost as if they don't see Apple could implement any notification scheme (Dynamic Island or other) they want on a regular old display without holes.

 

[EugW]

I was in the Apple store and while I prefer nothing, I would prefer the island over the notch. It has useful features that require additional button presses or widgets you need to add that are you don’t need to do with the island. Granted, it’s still better to have nothing but the island is better than the notch in terms of usefulness. iPhone 13/14 user.

Yes, but the reason the notch doesn't those features is because Apple has simply opted not to update the notch with those features. It's not an inherent difference of the notch vs. the island.

However, I'd gladly forego those Dynamic Island features to get a hole punch.

 

[Zenman12]

Yes, but the reason the notch doesn't those features is because Apple has simply opted not to update the notch with those features. It's not an inherent difference of the notch vs. the island.

However, I'd gladly forego those Dynamic Island features to get a hole punch.

Not sure I agree here. Can you expand? The island incorporates music and timer symbols in to its space. Only the corners are operable for such features (and they have the clock etc).

 

[EugW]

Not sure I agree here. Can you expand? The island incorporates music and timer symbols in to its space. Only the corners are operable for such features (and they have the clock etc).

As others have already mentioned, the Dynamic Island is essentially a notch, but in a slightly different location, and with a software upgrade. That software upgrade requires additional width - being the right and left side you mentioned.

If the software portion of Dynamic Island were completely removed, the area needed would be substantially smaller. A hole punch would be even smaller.