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Actually, I was looking at the industrial grade ones. The last time I bought a car, I paid invoice price + $300.

You are talking to a cheap ass Chinese man who can squeeze water out of rocks. ;)

When I was looking for my car I found invoice - $500
 
AT&T is different than verizon when it comes to bars. At least here in austin. on my iPad LTE AT&T I get the same speed or close to it 2-5 bars. Where as my verizon LTE iphone 5 I get 10ish Mbps on 1 bar, 2 bars 15isb 3 20issh 4 25-30 5 30-40

It's weird. Might just be that AT&T has far less LTE devices on their network now.

Also on verizon if it has 2 bars it drains my battery more than 5 :(

Interesting.
I do see AT&T rummored to have a faster LTE experience than Verizons LTE but they're both pretty good and verizons LTE is available in more places.

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Ok now I'm super confused.

Is this true?

Then what determines LTE speeds?

Also the backhaul at the particular tower and amount of users and traffic hitting it will have to do with the speeds you get.
 
I REALLY want 10MBPS or more. All the guys on YouTube have at least that.

One guy had over 30.

My wifi is only 4-5 Mbps so I'm doing better at around 5-6 on LTE but still it sucks!
 
Interesting.
I do see AT&T rummored to have a faster LTE experience than Verizons LTE but they're both pretty good and verizons LTE is available in more places.

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Also the backhaul at the particular tower and amount of users and traffic hitting it will have to do with the speeds you get.

Yeah AT&T is much faster! (Currently) when verizon first started LTE it had the same speeds. It's only a matter a time before it slows down. Mine used to be 60 Mbps when i first got my iPad now I get 40-50.. Still now slow hahah.

So funny I remember how big of a deal it was when dsl first came out and I was getting 1.5 Mbps.. The 6 Mbps haha.
Now I have a phone we have phones that are faster than I could even imagine 10 years ago.. Much less mobile Internet at that speed
 
Yeah AT&T is much faster! (Currently) when verizon first started LTE it had the same speeds. It's only a matter a time before it slows down. Mine used to be 60 Mbps when i first got my iPad now I get 40-50.. Still now slow hahah.

So funny I remember how big of a deal it was when dsl first came out and I was getting 1.5 Mbps.. The 6 Mbps haha.
Now I have a phone we have phones that are faster than I could even imagine 10 years ago.. Much less mobile Internet at that speed

I hear you.
I remember the aol and netzero dialup days and laugh:)
 
My closest tower is only .5 miles away!

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Is it possible that I only need ~5mbps or sometimes 6 for my area?

Low congestion in my area.
 
All of you in the US seem to have terrible LTE speeds. I'm in Australia and have an iPhone 5, and I regularly get over 20Mbps on 3G and over 50 on LTE. Your telcos really need to upgrade to higher capacity networks, as it seems like they can't handle the massive population of the US.
 
the bars have nothing to do with what data strength you have. the bars are strictly for voice. it goes from left to right... call signal strength, carrier, data format. you eigther have LTE 100% or 0%, theres no in between. if no LTE is available it drops to the next best service available. i've been in supermarkets with not even 3g service but can still make a call.

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2...to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/

Last part of the article:

"NOTE: It appears that the iPhone 5 does show LTE signal strength in the status bar, when the LTE icon is displayed. So this does not apply to the iPhone. "
 
Black, i stand corrected. i looked at the manual and it says that the bars represent the cdma (voice) signal. but when i turned off LTE the bars went from 4 to 5 showing 3g. it makes no sense though. have another set of bars next to LTE.
 
Ok guys I'm still Working on this and here's what I found.

I found that after turning off the iPhone and turning it on I'm getting 9 to 10 MB per second but then after a few minutes it drops to two bars and then I'm only getting around 5 to 6 MB per second.

Why Is this!?
 
I hear you.
I remember the aol and netzero dialup days and laugh:)

oh yes. blew my mind net zero started charging..."your name is netzero..and you charge" hmmm

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All of you in the US seem to have terrible LTE speeds. I'm in Australia and have an iPhone 5, and I regularly get over 20Mbps on 3G and over 50 on LTE. Your telcos really need to upgrade to higher capacity networks, as it seems like they can't handle the massive population of the US.

sweet let me right our carriers a letter real quick. they should do it now if i tell them yours is faster.
 
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