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when i upgraded from my 2g to 3gs all i did was a full backup in itunes. i even had an app called msecure that comes with a backup option that i did. when i synced my new 3gs to my itunes everything was there even my msecure app info. so to sum up, dont delete anything out of your itunes and do a full backup prior to syncing your new iphone hd or whatever it will be called.
 
^^^^^^
do you not understand the difference between camera roll pics and photos synced from your computer? ONLY camera roll pics are backed up. Also, no one ever implied or stated that music is backed up. It's not.

You clicked apply after making changes to the sync settings, so it synced. Unnderstand?


sorry maybe i am not making myself clear.

i understand the difference between camera roll pics and photos synced from my computer.

i have never synced photos on my computer to my iphone. i am not worried about those pics

i am talking about the pictures that i took with my phone..

ok can we start from ground zero please.

all i want to do is retain 100% of the information that is currently on my phone. all the pictures on my phone are from within the phone itself.

the only reason i deleted the music is because all the music i have on my phone are from various CD's of mine. i already have the CDs so i did not want to hog up space by keeping files of them on my computer on itunes so i wiped it clean.

yes i could just reload all my music one by one cd by cd, but i would prefer that i just have it all in one place included with the backup

everyone is talkign to me like im the biggest idiot in the world :(
sorrrrrrrrrrrrry i just need very simple help in knowing how i can perform a back up so that 100% of my data will be restored.
 
Think of the backup as, for the most part, a catalog of what was on your phone at a given point in time. It is not a copy of everything on the phone, but a list of apps, songs, settings, etc that iTunes can then use to restore the phone to a previous state. The actual music/photo/video/app data is not kept in the backup, but in iTunes. The backup just tells iTunes which music/photo/video/apps to load onto the phone.

When you sync, it should automatically copy over any new photos/songs/videos, but if you're deleting music from iTunes once it's loaded onto the phone, it may not be able to restore properly, as it won't be able to find the files that it's supposed to copy to the device. I'm not sure what would happen there.
 
all i want to do is retain 100% of the information that is currently on my phone. all the pictures on my phone are from within the phone itself.

the only reason i deleted the music is because all the music i have on my phone are from various CD's of mine. i already have the CDs so i did not want to hog up space by keeping files of them on my computer on itunes so i wiped it clean.

yes i could just reload all my music one by one cd by cd, but i would prefer that i just have it all in one place included with the backup

everyone is talkign to me like im the biggest idiot in the world :(
sorrrrrrrrrrrrry i just need very simple help in knowing how i can perform a back up so that 100% of my data will be restored.

I bolded what you want above.
So all the data needs to be somewhere else too for 100% backup. This is on your computer. So 100% of on the phone needs to be on your computer.
I can see your reasoning for not storing your music on your computer, but hard drive space is cheap. It also backs up your CDs.
So, I recommend leaving you music on your computer.

Backups. Sounds simple, but tends to be more complicated in real life.
Look at the scenarios:
lost/stolen/pool toy iPhone ... dead iPhone. If your data (music etc) is backup up with iTunes. Simple to get back to where you were. I've been there.

Hard drive on computer crashes. Very real situation. Hard drive may last 10 years or it may last 10 minutes. Depends if you like to gamble. Back up hard drive is cheap insurance.
So you have a backup hard drive. Time machine is pretty good here or Super Duper, CCC. Others.

House fire or theft. This is where you need offsite backup.
Need another hard drive & Super Duper or CCC.

I look at the situation as the data is valuable. Old picture are priceless.
iPhone, computer & hard drives are pretty cheap items from this perspective.

So you know you need to backup. So you're not an idiot.
If you DON'T think you should backup and believe your hard drive & iPhone will last forever, ... well ... then you'd be an idiot.
 
I bolded what you want above.
So all the data needs to be somewhere else too for 100% backup. This is on your computer. So 100% of on the phone needs to be on your computer.
I can see your reasoning for not storing your music on your computer, but hard drive space is cheap. It also backs up your CDs.
So, I recommend leaving you music on your computer.

Backups. Sounds simple, but tends to be more complicated in real life.
Look at the scenarios:
lost/stolen/pool toy iPhone ... dead iPhone. If your data (music etc) is backup up with iTunes. Simple to get back to where you were. I've been there.

Hard drive on computer crashes. Very real situation. Hard drive may last 10 years or it may last 10 minutes. Depends if you like to gamble. Back up hard drive is cheap insurance.
So you have a backup hard drive. Time machine is pretty good here or Super Duper, CCC. Others.

House fire or theft. This is where you need offsite backup.
Need another hard drive & Super Duper or CCC.

I look at the situation as the data is valuable. Old picture are priceless.
iPhone, computer & hard drives are pretty cheap items from this perspective.

So you know you need to backup. So you're not an idiot.
If you DON'T think you should backup and believe your hard drive & iPhone will last forever, ... well ... then you'd be an idiot.


thank you

Ok. i understand i get it.

the overall message everyone is saying to me is "Make sure u have back up"

I do back up my harddrive. i guess the mistake i made was thinking i could somehow back up my phone 100% just like i can back up my harddrive 100%

i find it really hard to believe that there is just no way to back up my phone 100% just because i deleted my music from my itunes?

does anyone else have any tips/suggestions as to how i can have 100% of the data from my phone backed up? all i seem to be getting is "u shouldnt have deleted ur music" "u should back up frequently" type comments. okay i will. i understand. but what about the current problem?

please i am goin nuts here .
:(
 
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1766

iTunes will back up the following information:

With iPhone OS 1.1 and later

Safari bookmarks, cookies, history, and currently open pages
Map bookmarks, recent searches, and the current location displayed in Maps
Application settings, preferences, and data
Address Book and Address Book favorites
Calendar accounts
Wallpapers
Notes
Call history
Mail accounts
YouTube bookmarks
SMS messages
Saved suggestion corrections (these are saved automatically as you reject suggested corrections)
Camera roll (photos and screen shots taken by the iPhone)
Voicemail token (this is not the Voicemail password, but is used for validation when connecting. This is only restored to a phone with the same phone number on the SIM card.)
Web clips
Network settings (saved wifi spots, VPN settings, network preferences)
Paired Bluetooth devices (which can only be used if restored to the same phone that did the backup)
Keychain (this includes email account passwords, Wi-Fi passwords, and passwords you enter into websites and some other applications. The keychain can only be restored from backup to the same iPhone or iPod touch. If you are restoring to a new device, you will need to fill in these passwords again.)

With iPhone 2.0 and later

Managed Configurations/Profiles
List of External Sync Sources (Mobile Me, Exchange ActiveSync)
Microsoft Exchange account configurations
Nike + iPod saved workouts and settings
App Store Application data (except the Application itself, its tmp and Caches folder).

With iPhone 3.0 and later

Videos in camera roll
Per app preferences allowing use of location services
Offline web application cache/database
Voice memos
Autofill for web pages
Trusted hosts that have certificates that cannot be verified
Web sites approved to get the location of the device
In-app purchases

New with iPhone 3.1

Videos in the camera roll that are 2 GB or larger are not backed up.
 
What I do, and I suspect a lot of other people.

Every night I plug my iPhone into my computer. It automatically syncs/backup.
So, in the morning my phone is charged and a backup on my computer.

So when, as happened last year, my daughter pushes me into the pool. Salt water pool. And kills my iPhone.
I just take the phone & $200 to the Apple store. Get a new phone. Take it home. Plug it into the computer. Answer a question or 2. Wait a bit.
Boom , back to where I was before the pool. ... and $200 poorer.

I look at this as the value is in the data. Back it up.

Did it also download all of your music, pictures, and apps on to your new iphone?
 
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1766

iTunes will back up the following information:

With iPhone OS 1.1 and later

Safari bookmarks, cookies, history, and currently open pages
Map bookmarks, recent searches, and the current location displayed in Maps
Application settings, preferences, and data
Address Book and Address Book favorites
Calendar accounts
Wallpapers
Notes
Call history
Mail accounts
YouTube bookmarks
SMS messages
Saved suggestion corrections (these are saved automatically as you reject suggested corrections)
Camera roll (photos and screen shots taken by the iPhone)
Voicemail token (this is not the Voicemail password, but is used for validation when connecting. This is only restored to a phone with the same phone number on the SIM card.)
Web clips
Network settings (saved wifi spots, VPN settings, network preferences)
Paired Bluetooth devices (which can only be used if restored to the same phone that did the backup)
Keychain (this includes email account passwords, Wi-Fi passwords, and passwords you enter into websites and some other applications. The keychain can only be restored from backup to the same iPhone or iPod touch. If you are restoring to a new device, you will need to fill in these passwords again.)

With iPhone 2.0 and later

Managed Configurations/Profiles
List of External Sync Sources (Mobile Me, Exchange ActiveSync)
Microsoft Exchange account configurations
Nike + iPod saved workouts and settings
App Store Application data (except the Application itself, its tmp and Caches folder).

With iPhone 3.0 and later

Videos in camera roll
Per app preferences allowing use of location services
Offline web application cache/database
Voice memos
Autofill for web pages
Trusted hosts that have certificates that cannot be verified
Web sites approved to get the location of the device
In-app purchases

New with iPhone 3.1

Videos in the camera roll that are 2 GB or larger are not backed up.



where is this back up stored and can i access individual files?

does this mean that everything pretty much other than music is backed up?
 
Did it also download all of your music, pictures, and apps on to your new iphone?

Yes pretty sure.
It was last year.
I plug my iPhone into my iMac every night to charge/backup/sync.

My daughter pushed me in the pool. Salt water pool. Saltwater nicely conductive. iPhone battery non removable.
iPhone history/dead/ finished.

I brought the dead iPhone & $200 to my local Apple store. They swapped sim card and initialize phone. Walked out of store and could make and receive calls, but no contact info of course.

Went home. plugged new phone into iMac.
It asked something new phone and syncing, can't remember exactly.
I said ok.
After some time to transfer a few gigs of the data, I removed the phone and viola I was back to where I was before the "accident"(less $200).

Note some types of data may be lost if it has been changed between backup & demise of the iPhone. No surprise.
Some data will be stored if you use .me.

So for me, I would say I was 100% backed up.

For the OP, all I know of the backup the iphone is to use a computer.
I suspect in the future, Apples data center in North Carolina may allow the phone to be backed up to the "cloud".
 
Yes pretty sure.
It was last year.
I plug my iPhone into my iMac every night to charge/backup/sync.

My daughter pushed me in the pool. Salt water pool. Saltwater nicely conductive. iPhone battery non removable.
iPhone history/dead/ finished.

I brought the dead iPhone & $200 to my local Apple store. They swapped sim card and initialize phone. Walked out of store and could make and receive calls, but no contact info of course.

Went home. plugged new phone into iMac.
It asked something new phone and syncing, can't remember exactly.
I said ok.
After some time to transfer a few gigs of the data, I removed the phone and viola I was back to where I was before the "accident"(less $200).

Note some types of data may be lost if it has been changed between backup & demise of the iPhone. No surprise.
Some data will be stored if you use .me.

So for me, I would say I was 100% backed up.

For the OP, all I know of the backup the iphone is to use a computer.
I suspect in the future, Apples data center in North Carolina may allow the phone to be backed up to the "cloud".



wait apple replaced your iphone AND your sim card?

was the sim card complimentary?
 
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1766

iTunes will back up the following information:

With iPhone OS 1.1 and later

Safari bookmarks, cookies, history, and currently open pages
Map bookmarks, recent searches, and the current location displayed in Maps
Application settings, preferences, and data
Address Book and Address Book favorites
Calendar accounts
Wallpapers
Notes
Call history
Mail accounts
YouTube bookmarks
SMS messages
Saved suggestion corrections (these are saved automatically as you reject suggested corrections)
Camera roll (photos and screen shots taken by the iPhone)
Voicemail token (this is not the Voicemail password, but is used for validation when connecting. This is only restored to a phone with the same phone number on the SIM card.)
Web clips
Network settings (saved wifi spots, VPN settings, network preferences)
Paired Bluetooth devices (which can only be used if restored to the same phone that did the backup)
Keychain (this includes email account passwords, Wi-Fi passwords, and passwords you enter into websites and some other applications. The keychain can only be restored from backup to the same iPhone or iPod touch. If you are restoring to a new device, you will need to fill in these passwords again.)

With iPhone 2.0 and later

Managed Configurations/Profiles
List of External Sync Sources (Mobile Me, Exchange ActiveSync)
Microsoft Exchange account configurations
Nike + iPod saved workouts and settings
App Store Application data (except the Application itself, its tmp and Caches folder).

With iPhone 3.0 and later

Videos in camera roll
Per app preferences allowing use of location services
Offline web application cache/database
Voice memos
Autofill for web pages
Trusted hosts that have certificates that cannot be verified
Web sites approved to get the location of the device
In-app purchases

New with iPhone 3.1

Videos in the camera roll that are 2 GB or larger are not backed up.


Im not understanding why some ppl told me that whatever uve written in "notes" and data stored in downloaded apps are NOT backed up

do u know if this is true??

does anyone actually have physical experience of restoring from back up and knowing for sure that data stored in downloaded apps and notes were restored?
 
I recently got my iphone replaced and I'm glad I backed up my phone frequently.

As for what you're asking, I believe the photos you take on your iphone do get backed up whether or not you sync them to your computer. I never synced my photos from my phone to my laptop prior to my iphone replacement but after restoring from backup, I still had all my photos. Information that was stored in notes was also retained. I think all you will lose really is your music. But since you have it all in CDs, you could just rip them again. Long process but I hope it'll at least be a lesson to you to keep good backups of all your data. I recently went through the pain of not keeping good backups and had to manually download all my programs/ info again and I sure learned my lesson.
 
I recently got my iphone replaced and I'm glad I backed up my phone frequently.

As for what you're asking, I believe the photos you take on your iphone do get backed up whether or not you sync them to your computer. I never synced my photos from my phone to my laptop prior to my iphone replacement but after restoring from backup, I still had all my photos. Information that was stored in notes was also retained. I think all you will lose really is your music. But since you have it all in CDs, you could just rip them again. Long process but I hope it'll at least be a lesson to you to keep good backups of all your data. I recently went through the pain of not keeping good backups and had to manually download all my programs/ info again and I sure learned my lesson.

Camera roll photos are backed up, not synced. NO media (photos, music, video, etc.) is synced TO the computer (only FROM).
 
Im not understanding why some ppl told me that whatever uve written in "notes" and data stored in downloaded apps are NOT backed up

do u know if this is true??

does anyone actually have physical experience of restoring from back up and knowing for sure that data stored in downloaded apps and notes were restored?

Notes are synced(if you check the box), not stored on the backup.

Your ability to grasp what is synced or backed-up (or even what these terms mean) is ridiculous.
 
Notes are synced(if you check the box), not stored on the backup.

Your ability to grasp what is synced or backed-up (or even what these terms mean) is ridiculous.


instead of educating you rather insult.

if notes are "synced" and not backed up where do they go?
 
i think you'l find i did both.:p (and that is if you think being called ridiculous is an insult...i thought it was rather tame)

They sync to mail app for me. Took me about 20 seconds on google to find out too.


of course being called ridiculous is an insult. whether its tame or not is irrelevant,

i am 12 years old. what were you doing at 12? i am a sponge. and i ask questions. if everybody used google instead of asking questions or getting involved in discussions relating to apple products then this forum would not exist. the point of a forum is for discussion.

in any case it saddens me that so many ppl on the net have these bitter personalities. it takes the same effort from u to be helpful than it does to be facetious . yet u find more pleasure in doing the latter.


ps, you say that the notes are "synced" to the mail app. i dont see any iphone notes content in my mail app. my question was where those notes go when you back up your phone
 
of course being called ridiculous is an insult. whether its tame or not is irrelevant,

i am 12 years old. what were you doing at 12? i am a sponge. and i ask questions. if everybody used google instead of asking questions or getting involved in discussions relating to apple products then this forum would not exist. the point of a forum is for discussion.

in any case it saddens me that so many ppl on the net have these bitter personalities. it takes the same effort from u to be helpful than it does to be facetious . yet u find more pleasure in doing the latter.
gosh...rant much? its good not to keep it bottled up anyway (and it does take the same effort for both, so feel extra special you are getting double the energy out of me!). and now the legitimate question...

ps, you say that the notes are "synced" to the mail app. i dont see any iphone notes content in my mail app. my question was where those notes go when you back up your phone

Have you checked sync notes in itunes? it seems like you don't sync much from your previous posts.
If you have synced they are @ mail>mailbox>go to>notes
 
Have you checked sync notes in itunes? it seems like you don't sync much from your previous posts.
If you have synced they are @ mail>mailbox>go to>notes


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mail >> mailbox?

i dont see a "mailbox" option int he dropdown menu
 
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mail >> mailbox?

i dont see a "mailbox" option int he dropdown menu

I'm almost seeing the Mailbox in your pic. :) Look to the top right menu.

Notes are synced(if you check the box), not stored on the backup.

Your ability to grasp what is synced or backed-up (or even what these terms mean) is ridiculous.

Jeez....

Notes ARE backed up AND "can be" synced. Period.

Reading through this thread again has given me a headache. :(;)
 
I'm almost seeing the Mailbox in your pic. :) Look to the top right menu.

the mailbox does not let me go to "notes"

Jeez....

Notes ARE backed up AND "can be" synced. Period.

Reading through this thread again has given me a headache. :(;)

and yes it gives me a headache too because people are giving contradicting info
 
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mail >> mailbox?

i dont see a "mailbox" option int he dropdown menu

the mailbox does not let me go to "notes"



and yes it gives me a headache too because people are giving contradicting info

I'm not on my Mac right now, but Notes are certainly in the Mail app. Look around. Also, if you haven't synced to Mail for Notes, then there won't be any of your notes there (Captain Obvious, but stating it just the same).
 
I'm not on my Mac right now, but Notes are certainly in the Mail app. Look around. Also, if you haven't synced to Mail for Notes, then there won't be any of your notes there (Captain Obvious, but stating it just the same).
Already suggested a sync to him:rolleyes:.. probably not 'synced' in yet ha


OP: its mailbox>go to>notes, not mailbox>notes. just type notes into mails help>search...and it highlights the notes section through the toolbar

and yes it gives me a headache too because people are giving contradicting info
All this information is out there from official sources. You don't have to ask regular joes if you are unhappy with the competency of their knowledge.
I'm surprised you haven't learnt this through your sponge-like abilities
 
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