How cynical we've become.

[iamthedudeman]

I don't know if it's disappointment but really a bit of shock that mighty Apple can't come up with a new phone after 16 months while Samsung, HTC, and others come up with newer hardware designs every three months in various sizes. Not comparing phones but how some companies with fewer resources are able to bring new technology (LTE, screen size, etc.) out so quickly.

They can do it because they don't take the time and effort to provide a OS and hardware that work seamless together. Or make sure that the user experience is better than the last device they made.

That Apple doesn't care or that they just want more money if a false assumption. Without their reputation for providing a great user experience where would they be?

That is a misconception. Apple doesn't not do something just to do something. They do it if it makes sense and can enhance the user experience. Something the other companies don't take into consideration and cannot match. This is the sole reason why their products sell like hotcakes and they don't sell "junk' as steve would say. They are a software company first and for most and design and make devices to enhance their software. Not the other way around as most companies do.

Why is everyone crying? The specs of the iPhone 4S beats out most if not all the phones out right now. The A5 is now fi not the fastest one of the most powerful SOC in a smartphone at this very moment.

Puts the Galaxy S2 to shame. Beats it in just about every test. Even if the Ghz on the Galaxy S2 is 200Mhz higher. How fast a processor runs doesn't mean it is more powerful. How many operations per Ghz and how it works with the OS is most important.

I am not going to post the links again a search will take care of that, but the A5 even meets or beats the non-realased Qualcomm 1.5Ghz dual core Cortex A9 that is going to be going in the next gen Android phones.

If the camera is any indication on the iPhone 4 while at 5Mp, the 8Mp in the 4S with the improved sensor may be the best out there right now.

How isn't IOS 5 not a improvement.

Of coarse they would give us a bigger screen if it didn't take away something, most likely battery life. I don't know about you, the 3.5 screen while smaller, is a quality screen and the battery life of my iPhone 4 puts to shame any Android phone on the market. I would take battery life over a half inch in screen real-estate any day of the week. I can take my daughter to Disney and not worry about if my battery will last the day, can your Android phone do that with your five inch screen. Probably not.

 

[TM WAZZA]

I would take battery life over a half inch in screen real-estate any day of the week. I can take my daughter to Disney and not worry about if my battery will last the day, can your Android phone do that with your five inch screen. Probably not.

Sure they can dude... SGS2 with fat battery below:

 

[iamthedudeman]

Sure they can dude... SGS2 with fat battery below:

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Lol. You just made my point for me. Instead of making the phone design with the hardware to better work with the OS and thinking about battery life in the first place, we will just throw on a bigger battery. Some one gets it.

Thank you.

 

[TM WAZZA]

Lol. You just made my point for me. Instead of making the phone design with the hardware to better work with the OS and thinking about battery life in the first place, we will just throw on a bigger battery.

Thank you.

And make the phone even more uglier than it is

 

[iamthedudeman]

And make the phone even more uglier than it is

Exactly.

 

[D4F]

Lol. You just made my point for me. Instead of making the phone design with the hardware to better work with the OS and thinking about battery life in the first place, we will just throw on a bigger battery. Some one gets it.

Thank you.

Prime example you have never seen or used that phone
This is just pointless unless some people stop taking thing/words out of their ass.

You want make sense, at least show facts, real numbers not some random out of the blue info you googled to fit this thread. Just like a 2year old in a sandbox.

Do you really need to twist facts to feel better about a phone that you have? If you do then rofl about your life

 

[lusheslewis]

That is the problem or blessing Apple don't see. They are milking same cow and you are all cheering for more.
Case design? bigger screen? 2 models? A issue with $80B cash on account?
Thay are simply using that fan base to get more for absolute minimum.
A5 how long is in iPad2?
3G+ how long is in the market?
Voice commands how long in android phones working awesome?

Will it sell. Of course it will but that's only cause so many follow apple like sheeps. Yo don't expect the best from them. All you need is a logo.

That is why other companies not only caught with apple (which seemed impossible) so quick but in just a few days they will surpass it and we have what another 12months + for another iPhone?

People really need to start look more objectively at things like technology.
If you praise it - fine with me just don't try to prove others are worse cause you simply look retarded while trying so hard. Facts are given. You can't change them

Such an ignorant post...

Surely people have realised by now that Apple doesn't build phones for tech nerds who want 5" screens and "ulTraFa5tprocess 4000" and a billion gigabytes of RAM or what not. And these tech nerds seem pissed that Apple doesn't care about what they want and just whinge and whinge and whinge....

What does Apple do? It makes phones with a focus on user experience and attention to detail that no one else has been able to match. It sells phones that the average person really wants to use. They use the benefits of only making one or two phones to reduce the cost of producing each one. They get people into the Apple system and encourage them to buy other Apple products. And they are making billions doing so.

If you want a phone with a big spec list, you think the iPhone is overpriced or you don't like the Apple ecosystem then fine, don't buy it. It's not even a drop in the ocean to Apple.

 

[iamthedudeman]

Prime example you have never seen or used that phone
This is just pointless unless some people stop taking thing/words out of their ass.

You want make sense, at least show facts, real numbers not some random out of the blue info you googled to fit this thread. Just like a 2year old in a sandbox.

Do you really need to twist facts to feel better about a phone that you have? If you do then rofl about your life

I am pretty sure that is a galaxy S2 and I own that phone, the int. version. So how would you know I never seen or used that phone? So who is talking out of their ass? Huh.

No one is twisting the facts about anything. I owned multiple Android phones. As well as every iPhone since the orig and the iPhones battery life puts them to shame.

Rofl about your life. Okay killer.

 

[jfrancis04]

Mostly testosterone built up preteen nerds with nothing better to do.

Seriously? Did you follow the stock price at all yesterday? I don't think the investors are "testosterone built up preteen nerds."

 

[dvoros]

Apple "Ho Hum" event.

For the first time, I saw nothing magical presented at this press conference. It really wasn't an event. Everything we saw could have been handled with a paper press release or posted to the web. After months and months of waiting, what we now have is a refurb iPhone 4. Whoopie. You will see Google and the Android market zoom, mark my words.

 

[vitzr]

As much as people are going to tell me off for this, it's partly Apples fault. They set the bar for themselves by telling people year after year how magical and revolutionary their products are, you can't blame people for expecting revolutionary stuff the next time around.

If you went to a restaurant 3 times in a row and the food was amazing, and the fourth time it was average, nothing like you had the previous times, wouldn't you be disappointed?

Kudos for an excellent post!

You've said it well & I could not agree more.

MacRumors is a forum of public opinion. I happen to think this is one of the finest Apple forums on the web.

Yes it's true, we have a wide variety of factions and personalities, all of which are to be appreciated for what they are. Without this mix it would be horribly boring and not very representative of the true demographic that buys Apples products.

In addition, this is where we come to express our true thoughts on the product for Apple to see. Most of us are very aware this is also the place Apple monitors to gauge real world acceptance or rejection of their goods.

So while I'm not challenging the OP, I'm simply offering my take on it

 

[danahn17]

Seriously? Did you follow the stock price at all yesterday? I don't think the investors are "testosterone built up preteen nerds."

given the stock market's performance lately, are you 100% sure about that?

 

[Globetrotter]

We're not cycnical

Apple lost the chance to convert a good number of people "in the know" waiting to buy the iphone 5, myself for one

They have not lost all the other people who are not aware of the version the iphone is, and will be blown away when they use iOS 5 for the first time

I have an iphone 4. I use it loads. I love it, but after 16 months, I like a little change, even if it's only minor.

I will get that from iOS 5. But Siri is not enough to make me upgrade to a whole new contract.

Apple has lost potentially 5-15% of potential iphone 4S/5 sales over the next quarter, after which they will rebound and perform fine.

That is all.

 

[scienide09]

If Apple had done the exact same hardware release, but branded it as the "iPhone 5" rather than 4s, my guess is that half of the whinging would disappear and most people couldn't wait to get their hands on one.

 

[Dorv]

I don't know if it's disappointment but really a bit of shock that mighty Apple can't come up with a new phone after 16 months while Samsung, HTC, and others come up with newer hardware designs every three months in various sizes. Not comparing phones but how some companies with fewer resources are able to bring new technology (LTE, screen size, etc.) out so quickly.

Because Apple likes to get technology RIGHT before they bring it to market.

I've yet to see an Android product out there that I wouldn't still prefer my original iPhone over.

 

[vitzr]

Because Apple likes to get technology RIGHT before they bring it to market.

That was the pre 2009 Apple. Since then there's been a litany of screw ups delivered as finished products.

IE: The Video Card issue with MBP's
The Antennagate issue with iP4's
And on and on goes the list...

I've yet to see an Android product out there that I wouldn't still prefer my original iPhone over.

You are out of touch & lacking long term first hand experience with the latest in Android phones.

My Galaxy S II is widely held as the most brilliant smartphone of 2011.

After a few months with it I'm in agreement with the glowing reports of it's incredible performance, long battery life, and gorgeous display just to name a few of it's highlights.

At the end of the day it's very easy to understand the compelling lure of Android and why Apple has copied it's notification system and other features.

Let's face it. I too find it hard to admit Apple is slipping, but the slide always begins gradually.

The worshipers within the cult love to cite sales numbers as their security blanket, but there's more to life than money alone. Yes it's a yardstick of significance in the 8 to 5 corporate world. Yet I don't know anyone that hugs their money for comfort.

It's a new day and Apple has indeed shattered their own glass with the events of yesterday. A chink in their armor that is already beginning to haunt them.

 

[jasvncnt]

One thing you're forgetting is that we're consumers and those who wanted a change have every right to be upset. It's not our job to marvel at everything Apple puts out, just because its Apple.

Thank you!!!!