How difficult is it to learn OSX after years of windows?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by marc55, Oct 25, 2013.

  1. marc55 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 14, 2011
    Looking to replace our Dell XPS, which has been pretty good overall except for a few new keyboards.

    We're considering a 15" Mac Book Pro with Retina, but we are concerned about the learning curve to switch from a windows based PC to a Mac Book.

    All insight will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
  2. Aldaris macrumors 68000


    Sep 7, 2004
    Salt Lake
    Minimal learning curve- instead of control panel you have 'system preferences' for all your OS settings and such- no 'start' or 'window bubble' you have the dock.

    Really there isn't much to it, it just works. Check out an apple store or authorized dealer (best buy etc.) to take a test drive of the OS and see if it would work for y'all.
  3. Ifti macrumors 68000

    Dec 14, 2010
    Not hard at all.

    Im a Windows Network Manager by trade. Ive worked with Windows in depth for the past 15 years. Changed to MAC and found it pretty easy. Now I love it for home use and video editing!
  4. KUguardgrl13 macrumors 68020


    May 16, 2013
    Kansas, USA
    I made the switch in 2009 after growing up with 95 and XP.

    Overall it's very easy. A lot of keyboard shortcuts that use ctrl+*letter* in Windows are Command+*letter* in OS X. There is a different shortcut to close a frozen app, but right clicking on the dock icon and clicking Force Quit is easier (in my opinion). Clicking the X will not fully close the app; you need to click :Apple: on the menu bar followed by Quit or use Command+Q.

    You will not need "cleaner" apps or antivirus like you do on Windows machines. OS X does it's own maintenance very well, and using safe computing practices will prevent the rare viruses and malware that exist.

    If you're tied to MS Office, I find that 2011 for Mac works well. iWork has also recently been redesigned and is free to download. You can save as .docx, etc to send to Windows users.
  5. xAgustinx macrumors regular


    May 22, 2012
    iWord is free to download?

    I visited Kansas a few days ago. Nice place, Arthur Bryant's bbq are delicious.
  6. takeshi74 macrumors 601

    Feb 9, 2011
    All depends on the individual. People don't all learn at exactly the same rate. I picked it up immediately. Some struggle. Others fall somewhere in between. People that tend to memorize steps will probably have more difficulty.
  7. ano0oj macrumors 6502

    Apr 20, 2010
    It's very easy to learn. Just don't get to the point where you "don't know how to use a Windows" anymore...I know plenty of people who are spoiled by only knowing OSX, but fail to realize that the real world/businesses operate on Windows
  8. Weaselboy Moderator


    Staff Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    There is some good info on the Apple web site here that will help you.
  9. AlecMyrddyn macrumors 6502

    Dec 5, 2008
    Southern Maine
    iWork & iLife apps are now free to anyone purchasing a new Mac. It was announced on Tuesday with the new rMBPs, Mavericks (which is a free upgrade for most Mac users as well), the iPads, etc.
  10. mxnut macrumors newbie

    Jun 23, 2010
    I just ordered a 15" Haswell rMBP, 2.3GHz, 16GB, 512GB SSD, 750M from Amazon this morning and it will get here tomorrow. I have an iPhone and iPad but have never owned a Mac computer. I'm looking forward to learning the new OS. I still have my Win 7 gaming PC but this will be for everything else.

    Can't wait. :D

  11. callea macrumors regular


    Jul 26, 2011
  12. ammusk macrumors regular

    Oct 20, 2009
    One week should be more than enough time to get used to OS X.

    When I shifted in 2008, it was a very pleasant experience. Even more so today with Mavericks.

    That's great news.

    Welcome to the Mac.
  13. appleii.c macrumors 6502


    Mar 18, 2013
    It all depends on how you use it, really. For the basics, there IS minimal learning curve as others have suggested. And the truth is, the daily stuff is much more intuitive than on Windows. When you get to the file system, installing software etc is where the learning curve bends a little more. Not much, but it IS different. There isn't the usual "C" drive like in windows so it's a little bit different navigating around the filesystem. Overall it's a great system and once you get the hang of it, you'll never go back.
  14. stayley macrumors member

    Oct 1, 2013
    As a long time windows user and Mac OS hater, I've made the switch 5 days ago and I must admit I was in the wrong. Windows can be a great system, but so is Mac OS. OS X is very intuitive and I found myself discovering features by accident, simply by trying something because it felt, well, intuitive.

    A good example is PDFs (I primarily use my laptop for research, so a lot of my work involves going through academic papers) viewed in preview. Just today I was scrolling through a paper that had some graphs in it. Such documents are generally vertically oriented, but then you have to rotate certain pages to view the graphs horizontally. In preview, it was a simple trackpad gesture, while when viewing PDFs in Acrobat Reader on Windows it takes some more effort and it can get annoying... might seem minor but it just represents the point I'm trying to make.

    So, I would say that you should be fine and make the switch quite quick. If you are a relatively informed Windows user (as in you quite understand how the file system works and why things happen the way they happen), you won't be struggling.

    As far as "pages" and "numbers" go... well I think I'm sticking with MS Office for now. Keynote is supposedly very good, but I have a major presentation on trade policy next week and I think I'll have to use my old windows laptop for that (I haven't got the Office for Mac yet). This might be a matter of time though, I just need the productivity now.

    All in all, make the switch, try it out. It's worth it. First three days I had mixed feelings, but I made a strong case of not trying to make my OS X experience as similar to Windows as possible. I can say that after 5 days I am comfortable with the system enough. I imagine it will take another two weeks for me not to miss Windows at all, but I can see it happen.
  15. Starfyre macrumors 68030


    Nov 7, 2010
    Its less frustrating now. It used to bug me that you couldn't resize any windows from any side until 10.8. Don't take for granted that anything that your used to in Windows can be done in Mac in the same way.
  16. ammusk macrumors regular

    Oct 20, 2009
    Moom has fixed my window resizing problem with OS X. Try it :)
  17. iKrivetko macrumors 6502a

    May 28, 2010
    Could be anything from "no effort at all" to "impossible" depending on how much of a pillock you are.
  18. katorga macrumors regular

    Oct 28, 2006

    Easier than going from Windows 7 to Windows 8, imo.
  19. Benjamin99 macrumors member

    Jan 31, 2012
    The Woodlands, TX

    I switched to OSX about 3 years ago after being happy with the simplicity and "cleanness" of using iOS (iPhone). Took a week or so to really get the hang of it, but just like anything else, I'm still learning little tricks here and there. I still use windows at work, so I also agree that you don't want to forget how to use it if you ever see the possibility of working somewhere with it. I use Windows at my office, and also have Win8 on bootcamp just for "fun"..
  20. stevieraveon macrumors newbie

    Dec 16, 2012
    I'm about to order same configuration on amazon too and I'm worried. It says it has the Iris graphics card. Doesn't mention the dedicated gpu.

    Apple MacBook Pro ME294LL/A 15.4-Inch Laptop with Retina Display (NEWEST VERSION)
  21. mxnut macrumors newbie

    Jun 23, 2010
    If you scroll down into the body of the description it shows it having the 750 card in it. I hesitated at first but as soon as I looked a little closer it was in my cart and on the way. :D

  22. AllergyDoc macrumors 65816


    Mar 17, 2013
    Utah, USA
    I, too, use PDFs a lot. Scrolling through them with a Magic Pad is a revelation.

    I used PCs from 1984 :eek: to March of this year. My iMac was daunting at first, but I'll never go back. I agree that 4-6 weeks is about the time frame for conversion.

    My 27" display is breathtaking.
  23. nyc2pdx macrumors 6502

    Oct 20, 2012
    Portland, Oregon
    definitely agreed!

    I did the switch 3 years ago and kick myself for not doing it sooner. OS X is pretty intuitive, I was lost for about an hour or so...after a few days, I got pretty comfortable. I put Win 7 on bootcamp because I was afraid I would lose functionality. Funny, I cannot remember the last time I booted into bootcamp now.

    I think it was more of the shock "Wow, it does what I want it to do", rather than the other way around.
  24. fenskezen macrumors regular

    Feb 6, 2011
    I was a PC user for years before switching to Mac. It took no time to get used to, I found OS much more intuitive. I will never go back to a PC for personal use. That said, I am truly "bilingual". I use a PC all day at work. I switch between the two seamlessly and don't even consciously notice the difference.
  25. Agent-P macrumors 68030


    Dec 5, 2009
    The Tri-State Area
    Before typing out my long response to why I disagree with this, I'd like to know why you think that's the case. Maybe I'll understand it and I won't need to type out my whole response.

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