how do i legally sell an iphone 4s

fightingirish59

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i currently have a droid. incredible. i personally do not have an upgrade until july but a family member has one so i was going to use theirs. i want to buy the iphone 4s(white, 32 gb,) online as an upgrade and then sell it on ebay. my plan was to get it jailbreak it and unlock it, sell it, then just use my old phone and get an s3 in july. what are the steps to doing this legally. what do i have to do when i get the phone.

thanks for the help

the title may look confusing... how do i legally
 
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rocknblogger

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That doesn't make sense. If you use the upgrade to buy an iPhone you'll end up paying full price for the S3. Why not just buy the S3?

Just seems like a lot of work for little reward.

EDIT: I just reread what you wrote so I see you have an upgrade in July. Still seems like a lot of work. I suppose it depends on how much you can get for the iPhone.

Problem is if it comes with iOS 5.1 you won't be able to jailbreak it at all. So it's kind of a gamble at this point.

I don't know how quickly the new version gets to new retail iPhones.
 

fightingirish59

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That doesn't make sense. If you use the upgrade to buy an iPhone you'll end up paying full price for the S3. Why not just buy the S3?

Just seems like a lot of work for little reward.
im going to use a family members upgrade to get the iphone, sell it (i need to know the proper steps of going about this on verizon) and then ill transfer back my other upgrade which i have in july and get an s3
 

Jordan921

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Why not just use your upgrade in july to buy the s3? You also can't unlock a 4S atm so you are just wasting your time.
 

rocknblogger

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im going to use a family members upgrade to get the iphone, sell it (i need to know the proper steps of going about this on verizon) and then ill transfer back my other upgrade which i have in july and get an s3
Does your family member realize they'll be locked into the phone they have for another two years?

I'm guessing they have their current phone for two years at this point since they're eligible for an upgrade. That's four years on one phone. I know that not everyone upgrades every two years but I would just make sure they understand the whole deal.
 

fightingirish59

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Why not just use your upgrade in july to buy the s3? You also can't unlock a 4S atm so you are just wasting your time.
because i could make profit. it doesnt have to be unlcocked to sell it right? some random verizon person on ebay could just buy it
 

dtbratt

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Just get the phone but dont activate it and sell it on Ebay. Easy as that.

No need to jailbreak or unlock. Just sell it to another Verizon customer.
 

fightingirish59

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Does your family member realize they'll be locked into the phone they have for another two years?

I'm guessing they have their current phone for two years at this point since they're eligible for an upgrade. That's four years on one phone. I know that not everyone upgrades every two years but I would just make sure they understand the whole deal.

the person had an lg dare for over 2 years, she got an lg octane a few months ago without upgrading so shes had the upgrade available for almost a year and a half but she doesnt want a smartphone because of the whole data thing.

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Just get the phone but dont activate it and sell it on Ebay. Easy as that.

No need to jailbreak or unlock. Just sell it to another Verizon customer.

ok thank you, this is basically what i wanted to do.ill get to sell it unopened and everything, but i read somewhere that verizon charges full price if it isnt activated in 30 days, do you know if that it is true
 

likethesoup2

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the person had an lg dare for over 2 years, she got an lg octane a few months ago without upgrading so shes had the upgrade available for almost a year and a half but she doesnt want a smartphone because of the whole data thing.

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ok thank you, this is basically what i wanted to do.ill get to sell it unopened and everything, but i read somewhere that verizon charges full price if it isnt activated in 30 days, do you know if that it is true
This is silly. Of course you're going to get charged full price for the phone.

Why wouldn't you? Why should Verizon subsidize a phone for you, when you're not going to be using it?

This is a perfect example of simple greed.
 

fightingirish59

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This is silly. Of course you're going to get charged full price for the phone.

Why wouldn't you? Why should Verizon subsidize a phone for you, when you're not going to be using it?

This is a perfect example of simple greed.
theres got to be a work around right
 

likethesoup2

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so im greedy because i want to make some money? wow. are you a liberal/socialist?
I am neither a liberal nor a socialist (but thanks for asking).

Nor do I have any problems with (anyone) making money -- legally.

And you still haven't answered my initial question: why should Verizon sell you a subsidized phone that you have no intention of using on their network? Just so YOU can make money? What makes you so special?
 

RotaryP7

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Technically, it's not illegal. What you can do is upgrade, and do not open or activate the phone. Then sell it on eBay as a brand new Verizon iPhone. You'll most likely get full retail. Then call Verizon or go online and change the ESN back to your old Droid. Simple. Have fun.
 

MacFan1701

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Just make sure when you use your family member's upgrade you do it ON THEIR LINE. Otherwise, they'll transfer the upgrade to your line and it'll cancel out your July upgrade date.
 

rocknblogger

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Technically, it's not illegal. What you can do is upgrade, and do not open or activate the phone. Then sell it on eBay as a brand new Verizon iPhone. You'll most likely get full retail. Then call Verizon or go online and change the ESN back to your old Droid. Simple. Have fun.
Something doesn't compute. As the other poster said, Verizon will most likely charge the account holder for the full price of the iPhone if it's not activated. Otherwise a lot of people would do what the OP is trying to do.

And like he asked, why would Verizon sell you a phone for $300 and then allow you to not activate it and sell it when it's costing them a lot more than that? Think about it. If he sells the phone to another Verizon customer, that customer won't be able to activate it on his account because the phone is already locked to another account because he's buying it subsidized. If he was paying full price then it's a different story.
 

Madmic23

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He shouldn't get charged full retail for the phone. If he's agreeing to a 2 year contract, Verizon is going to give him a subsidized phone. You could get a new subsidized iPhone today, and then pay full retail price for a different phone tomorrow and switch your number to that. Verizon doesn't care what your using, as long as you're paying them a monthly fee for the next two years of your life.
 

SporkLover

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Something doesn't compute. As the other poster said, Verizon will most likely charge the account holder for the full price of the iPhone if it's not activated. Otherwise a lot of people would do what the OP is trying to do.

And like he asked, why would Verizon sell you a phone for $300 and then allow you to not activate it and sell it when it's costing them a lot more than that? Think about it. If he sells the phone to another Verizon customer, that customer won't be able to activate it on his account because the phone is already locked to another account because he's buying it subsidized. If he was paying full price then it's a different story.
Because a 2 year contract is being signed

OP, here is your folly. In order for you to get the phone they'll need your family member to sign a 2 yr contract for a plan compatible with the iPhone. If your family member doesn't want a data plan, then you can't get an iPhone.
 

SporkLover

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Can't tell if serious or /sarcasm :D This is by far the best thing I've read today.

But yeah, there is such a thing as 'contract' and will pretty much take care of you if you try to do this.
Negative. The carrier only cares about customers signing another two year contract. That is why the carriers subsidize the phones. You can put that phone in your closet and never activate it because theoretically, in the long run they make their money back at the end of two years.

I do this all the time with phones on my account. In fact I was able to buy my wife's and I iPhones by selling a subsidized phone for retail value.
 

lordofthereef

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Does Verizon do things differently than ATT? I used the upgrade on another line for my 4S, had the ATT rep reactivate the dumb phone that was on the line previously, and drop the data plan that had been freshly added to the line. The contract was increased to two years, but that line wasn't stuck with data since it wasn't a smartphone line anymore.