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How do I make my emails delete from Hotmail when i delete them from Mac?

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r91

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Yeah I have no idea how to phrase this question or the technical terms that I should use.

But anyway, I have my Mac mail 'thing' synced up to my Hotmail, and I can receive emails just fine. But when I delete an email from my Mac 'thing', it doesn't delete from the actual Hotmail account. So when I log into my Hotmail separately I have a zillion new emails.

How do I change the settings or something so that when I delete it from Mac mail, it deletes on the actual Hotmail as well?

Sorry for my noob-ish terms. Be kind! ;)
 
First, hotmail is horrible.... but, if you must use it, under the options check the pop settings to see if outside programs are allowed to delete messages.
 
wpotere said:
First, hotmail is horrible.... but, if you must use it, under the options check the pop settings to see if outside programs are allowed to delete messages.
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Just did that, and then I got an email and deleted it from my Mac and then checked back on Hotmail but it's still there.... :(
 
simsaladimbamba said:
Does Hotmail allow IMAP? It probably uses POP3 right now.
Can this help?
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I can't find the IMAP option on Hotmail...

Man I suck haha.

I think I should just give up and go back to deleting my emails from Hotmail manually haha
 
r91 said:
I can't find the IMAP option on Hotmail...

Man I suck haha.

I think I should just give up and go back to deleting my emails from Hotmail manually haha
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Did you try the section titled "Access Windows Live Hotmail with Mac OS X Mail Using IMAP via IzyMail"?
 
r91 said:
Just did that, and then I got an email and deleted it from my Mac and then checked back on Hotmail but it's still there.... :(
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I think it takes a while to sync. Hotmail does offer IMAP but it is only on the paid accounts.
 
It's not really a Mac thing.

Pulling email into programs like Mail or Outlook uses standard protocols, like POP or IMAP or Exchange. The POP protocol doesn't keep emails in sync between the email server and devices running mail programs.

Hotmail, for computers, uses the POP protocol. Smartphones and tablets can use the Exchange protocol which keeps everything in sync, like what you want.

IMAP also keeps things in sync. Gmail and some other providers offer that.
 
r91 said:
Yeah I have no idea how to phrase this question or the technical terms that I should use.

But anyway, I have my Mac mail 'thing' synced up to my Hotmail, and I can receive emails just fine. But when I delete an email from my Mac 'thing', it doesn't delete from the actual Hotmail account. So when I log into my Hotmail separately I have a zillion new emails.

How do I change the settings or something so that when I delete it from Mac mail, it deletes on the actual Hotmail as well?

Sorry for my noob-ish terms. Be kind! ;)
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I have been searching for the answer to this question ever since I got my mac.
Don't think anyone knows how to do it :-(
 
Macgeeza said:
I have been searching for the answer to this question ever since I got my mac.
Don't think anyone knows how to do it :-(
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I seriously doubt you have even tried using a search engine to find an answer, since it's very easy to find. Just click on any of the two links posted in this thread, or click on both and choose the one you prefer.
 
hafr said:
I seriously doubt you have even tried using a search engine to find an answer, since it's very easy to find. Just click on any of the two links posted in this thread, or click on both and choose the one you prefer.
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What's izymail, is it safe, have you tried it?
 
To delete Hotmail in real time when you do it from your computer you only have to set it up as a MS Exchange Account.
 
Ccrew said:
To delete Hotmail in real time when you do it from your computer you only have to set it up as a MS Exchange Account.
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You obviously haven't tried this yourself, because if you had you would know that it doesn't work.
 
takeshi74 said:
...and, AFAIK there are no email clients for computers that support ActiveSync.
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Entourage does if you point it at an older OWA Front end, Outlook 2011 if it's a newer Exchange server running Web Services.

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hafr said:
You obviously haven't tried this yourself, because if you had you would know that it doesn't work.
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I have as I use an Entourage client pointed at Hotmail.. Apology accepted.
 
Ccrew said:
I have as I use an Entourage client pointed at Hotmail. Also works with Outlook 2011. Apology accepted.
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Is there any post by the OP that made you believe that (s)he is using or have access to Entourage or Outlook 2011, or did you just completely forgot to mention that your "simple" solution requires the purchase of the Microsoft Office 2011 suite that will set the OP back 200 bucks?
 
wpotere said:
First, hotmail is horrible.... but, if you must use it, under the options check the pop settings to see if outside programs are allowed to delete messages.
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you need exchange for this, not pop
livemail / hotmail is now better than gmail
people like it a lot better they are getting more new users than gmail
 
r91 said:
Yeah I have no idea how to phrase this question or the technical terms that I should use.

But anyway, I have my Mac mail 'thing' synced up to my Hotmail, and I can receive emails just fine. But when I delete an email from my Mac 'thing', it doesn't delete from the actual Hotmail account. So when I log into my Hotmail separately I have a zillion new emails.

How do I change the settings or something so that when I delete it from Mac mail, it deletes on the actual Hotmail as well?

Sorry for my noob-ish terms. Be kind! ;)
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Actually, you could set up the account so that all messages that has been downloaded to your computer will be deleted from the net. But then you can't use Hotmail as webmail anymore...
 
Wouldn't the answer be as simple as unchecking the "Store deleted messages on this server" box?

Mail->Preferences->Accounts
 

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iforbes said:
Wouldn't the answer be as simple as unchecking the "Store deleted messages on this server" box?

Mail->Preferences->Accounts
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No, which is why people are making money out of offering solutions to having Hotmail setup as an IMAP account in OS X.
 
theartiste said:
you need exchange for this, not pop
livemail / hotmail is now better than gmail
people like it a lot better they are getting more new users than gmail
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You don't need exchange at all. If POP is setup correctly it will sync with the server and remove the mail if that setting is enabled. The "exchange" bit you are talking about is nothing but IMAP. If it works without paying now then MS has finally allowed it as it was an extra feature that they charged for.


Just dug a little deeper into this as I have a hotmail account for my MSDN subscription. I don't generally use it but it does look like they allow IMAP connections. The downside is that you can't use iMail to do it as it will only allow POP. There are some third party products like

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/

that will help with syncing but it does cost. People may be signing up for Hotmail more than GMail (not sure I believe this and would love to see some empirical data) but I can tell you my Windows Phone works great for Hotmail connections as well as Gmail connections. Looks like this is more of an Apple won't allow it issue.
 
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wpotere said:
You don't need exchange at all. If POP is setup correctly it will sync with the server and remove the mail if that setting is enabled. The "exchange" bit you are talking about is nothing but IMAP.
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I was under the impression that POP was basically download-and-delete. That is, you download the messages from the server and choose either to have the downloaded messages deleted or stored on the server (in order to access them via webmail later on). But you mean it actually syncs (un)read-statuses as well? Which clients would be able to use for this?

If it works without paying now then MS has finally allowed it as it was an extra feature that they charged for.
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It was free until 2009, after that you had to use Windows Live Mail (the mail client bundled with MSN Messenger in Windows) in order for it to work properly.

Just dug a little deeper into this as I have a hotmail account for my MSDN subscription. I don't generally use it but it does look like they allow IMAP connections. The downside is that you can't use iMail to do it as it will only allow POP. There are some third party products like

http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/

that will help with syncing but it does cost. People may be signing up for Hotmail more than GMail (not sure I believe this and would love to see some empirical data) but I can tell you my Windows Phone works great for Hotmail connections as well as Gmail connections. Looks like this is more of an Apple won't allow it issue.
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You probably need to dig a bit deeper. Setting up a Hotmail account in Mail.app (which I assume is what you call iMail) can be done as a POP, IMAP, Exchange or Exchange IMAP account. Only POP will work, unless you use one of those solutions you, I and others have mentioned. Also, it used to work until Microsoft stopped supporting it. So it's not really an "Apple won't allow it" issue, but a "Microsoft won't allow it" issue.
 
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