How do I make my emails delete from Hotmail when i delete them from Mac?

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  1. r91 macrumors newbie

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    Yeah I have no idea how to phrase this question or the technical terms that I should use.

    But anyway, I have my Mac mail 'thing' synced up to my Hotmail, and I can receive emails just fine. But when I delete an email from my Mac 'thing', it doesn't delete from the actual Hotmail account. So when I log into my Hotmail separately I have a zillion new emails.

    How do I change the settings or something so that when I delete it from Mac mail, it deletes on the actual Hotmail as well?

    Sorry for my noob-ish terms. Be kind! ;)
     
  2. wpotere Guest

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    First, hotmail is horrible.... but, if you must use it, under the options check the pop settings to see if outside programs are allowed to delete messages.
     
  3. r91 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Just did that, and then I got an email and deleted it from my Mac and then checked back on Hotmail but it's still there.... :(
     
  4. simsaladimbamba

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    Does Hotmail allow IMAP? It probably uses POP3 right now.
    Can this help?
     
  5. r91 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I can't find the IMAP option on Hotmail...

    Man I suck haha.

    I think I should just give up and go back to deleting my emails from Hotmail manually haha
     
  6. simsaladimbamba

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    Did you try the section titled "Access Windows Live Hotmail with Mac OS X Mail Using IMAP via IzyMail"?
     
  7. wpotere Guest

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    I think it takes a while to sync. Hotmail does offer IMAP but it is only on the paid accounts.
     
  8. hafr macrumors 68030

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    http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/
     
  9. r91 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I only get a free trial though haha

    Thanks for all of your help guys, I think it would be easier to just stick to my old ways, considering how incompetent I am with Macs.
     
  10. aristobrat macrumors G5

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    It's not really a Mac thing.

    Pulling email into programs like Mail or Outlook uses standard protocols, like POP or IMAP or Exchange. The POP protocol doesn't keep emails in sync between the email server and devices running mail programs.

    Hotmail, for computers, uses the POP protocol. Smartphones and tablets can use the Exchange protocol which keeps everything in sync, like what you want.

    IMAP also keeps things in sync. Gmail and some other providers offer that.
     
  11. Macgeeza macrumors regular

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    I have been searching for the answer to this question ever since I got my mac.
    Don't think anyone knows how to do it :-(
     
  12. hafr macrumors 68030

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    I seriously doubt you have even tried using a search engine to find an answer, since it's very easy to find. Just click on any of the two links posted in this thread, or click on both and choose the one you prefer.
     
  13. Macgeeza macrumors regular

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    What's izymail, is it safe, have you tried it?
     
  14. hafr macrumors 68030

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    Never tried it, I use mBox Mail that I posted a link to.
     
  15. Ccrew macrumors 68020

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    To delete Hotmail in real time when you do it from your computer you only have to set it up as a MS Exchange Account.
     
  16. hafr macrumors 68030

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    You obviously haven't tried this yourself, because if you had you would know that it doesn't work.
     
  17. takeshi74 macrumors 601

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    ActiveSync is what it's called.

    ...and, AFAIK there are no email clients for computers that support ActiveSync.
     
  18. Ccrew macrumors 68020

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    Entourage does if you point it at an older OWA Front end, Outlook 2011 if it's a newer Exchange server running Web Services.

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    I have as I use an Entourage client pointed at Hotmail.. Apology accepted.
     
  19. hafr macrumors 68030

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    Is there any post by the OP that made you believe that (s)he is using or have access to Entourage or Outlook 2011, or did you just completely forgot to mention that your "simple" solution requires the purchase of the Microsoft Office 2011 suite that will set the OP back 200 bucks?
     
  20. theartiste macrumors member

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    you need exchange for this, not pop
    livemail / hotmail is now better than gmail
    people like it a lot better they are getting more new users than gmail
     
  21. hafr macrumors 68030

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    Actually, you could set up the account so that all messages that has been downloaded to your computer will be deleted from the net. But then you can't use Hotmail as webmail anymore...
     
  22. iforbes, Apr 1, 2012
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    iforbes macrumors 6502

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    Wouldn't the answer be as simple as unchecking the "Store deleted messages on this server" box?

    Mail->Preferences->Accounts
     

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  23. hafr macrumors 68030

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    No, which is why people are making money out of offering solutions to having Hotmail setup as an IMAP account in OS X.
     
  24. wpotere, Apr 1, 2012
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    You don't need exchange at all. If POP is setup correctly it will sync with the server and remove the mail if that setting is enabled. The "exchange" bit you are talking about is nothing but IMAP. If it works without paying now then MS has finally allowed it as it was an extra feature that they charged for.


    Just dug a little deeper into this as I have a hotmail account for my MSDN subscription. I don't generally use it but it does look like they allow IMAP connections. The downside is that you can't use iMail to do it as it will only allow POP. There are some third party products like

    http://fluentfactory.com/mboxmail-for-mac/

    that will help with syncing but it does cost. People may be signing up for Hotmail more than GMail (not sure I believe this and would love to see some empirical data) but I can tell you my Windows Phone works great for Hotmail connections as well as Gmail connections. Looks like this is more of an Apple won't allow it issue.
     
  25. hafr macrumors 68030

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    I was under the impression that POP was basically download-and-delete. That is, you download the messages from the server and choose either to have the downloaded messages deleted or stored on the server (in order to access them via webmail later on). But you mean it actually syncs (un)read-statuses as well? Which clients would be able to use for this?

    It was free until 2009, after that you had to use Windows Live Mail (the mail client bundled with MSN Messenger in Windows) in order for it to work properly.

    You probably need to dig a bit deeper. Setting up a Hotmail account in Mail.app (which I assume is what you call iMail) can be done as a POP, IMAP, Exchange or Exchange IMAP account. Only POP will work, unless you use one of those solutions you, I and others have mentioned. Also, it used to work until Microsoft stopped supporting it. So it's not really an "Apple won't allow it" issue, but a "Microsoft won't allow it" issue.
     

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