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How do you say "2009": two thousand (and) nine?

iSamurai said:
I've always had this mystery that I want to clear up...

As I speak british english, I always say the "and" in e.g. 2009, 234 etc.
(two thousand and nine, two hundred and thirty-four), and I know for a fact that different english regions based on british english also say the "and".

I've read on Wikipedia and they say it's apparently american english, but I was watching CNN just now and one presenter say the "and" and the other doesn't. They're all american... (CNN US simulcast on CNN International now...)

so this is really weird. I guess this differs from where you're from in the US... probably also applies to the US english omitting the "on" in "on" Monday, "on" Tuesday... coz it's really weird that some articles on cnn.com have the "on" and some doesn't... :confused::confused::confused:


if you're an american and you don't say the "and" nor the "on", where're you from (which part of US)???
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Two thousand nine, twenty-ought-nine, oh-nine... that's pretty much the extent. When talking numbers I've always been taught, and held mostly to the rule that any time the word "and" is used that it signifies a decimal point so "two thousand and nine" will always sound like 2000.9 to me.

iBlue said:
I think so too! :D

MMIX might be a little less confusing and accurate though, huh?
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Sweet, I'm to start calling the year "em-mix" today is Friday February 13, m-mix.

tkidBOSTON said:
A hundred score and nine.
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With only 23 fortnights left... until a hundred score and ten...
 
és: said:
There is no British English. Just English. Tally-Ho.
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How do you differentiate the two? English and American English? Just wondering, since there are noted differences..

I tend to omit the 'and' when I'm saying the date, but use it when there's maths at hand.
 
és: said:
Also known as 'English'.
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When America became the greatest nation in the world we took over English, they get a prefix to their version now.*


Melrose said:
How do you differentiate the two? English and American English? Just wondering, since there are noted differences..

I tend to omit the 'and' when I'm saying the date, but use it when there's maths at hand.
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colour/color, checks/cheques, grey/gray, hmm I am sure there are more



















*Not responsible for any sudden emotional distress caused by message, please seek medical attention if tightening in the chest occurs.
 
LeahM said:
I say two thousand nine the majority of the time, but if I'm watching my speech I say two thousand and nine.
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Either is acceptable, and neither will be misconstrued as September 20th ( 20-09). ;)

garybUK said:
I always say 'Two Thousand and Ten' and I HATE it when people say 'February 13th 2009' it's '13th February 2009'
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Ah, the old DD/MM/YY argument. The bane of programmers everywhere, in my day at least. :mad:
 
atszyman said:
Two thousand nine, twenty-ought-nine, oh-nine... that's pretty much the extent. When talking numbers I've always been taught, and held mostly to the rule that any time the word "and" is used that it signifies a decimal point so "two thousand and nine" will always sound like 2000.9 to me.
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That is correct. Using "and" is improper and inaccurate. It does indicate a decimal point, hence why we write checks this way for $234.67:

Two-hundred thirty-four and 67/100 dollars.

Two thousand nine is correct. And yes, that's how I say it and I live in Chicago.
 
leekohler said:
That is correct. Using "and" is improper and inaccurate. It does indicate a decimal point, hence why we write checks this way for $234.67:

Two-hundred thirty-four and 67/100 dollars.

Two thousand nine is correct. And yes, that's how I say it and I live in Chicago.
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Actually, the "and" signifies addition. Hundreds of years ago, English speakers used to say 25 as "five and twenty". Many languages still use this convention. Currently it's typically only used between whole numbers and fractions because that's the only place it's really necessary. E.g. How would you say 200.55 without using "and" (or "point")?

When talking about years, two thousand and nine would be interpreted as 2000+9, or 2009, which is correct. The "and" isn't necessary, but it's a generally accepted practice and (especially since there are no fractions involved in stating a date) it doesn't usually lead to any confusion among reasonable adults.
 
benbondu said:
Actually, the "and" signifies addition. Hundreds of years ago, English speakers used to say 25 as "five and twenty". Many languages still use this convention. Currently it's typically only used between whole numbers and fractions because that's the only place it's really necessary. E.g. How would you say 200.55 without using "and" (or "point")?

When talking about years, two thousand and nine would be interpreted as 2000+9, or 2009, which is correct. The "and" isn't necessary, but it's a generally accepted practice and (especially since there are no fractions involved in stating a date) it doesn't usually lead to any confusion among reasonable adults.
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"Four score and seven years ago..." For years, I guess this makes sense. For money it gets confusing. "Two hundred and 10": is that 210 or 200.10? "Two hundred and ten dollars" is not ambiguous because units are specified. But, "two hundred and ten dollars and ten cents" is a bit much.

I'm going to continue with "Two thousand nine" for the year. Simple.
 
leekohler said:
That is correct. Using "and" is improper and inaccurate. It does indicate a decimal point, hence why we write checks this way for $234.67:

Two-hundred thirty-four and 67/100 dollars.

Two thousand nine is correct. And yes, that's how I say it and I live in Chicago.
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That's exactly how I learned it as well (in California).
 
Come on folks.

We learned this is junior school:

AND implies a decimal place, so "two thousand AND nine" = 2000.9

When you want to say 2009, you just say, "two thousand nine."
 
alphaod said:
Come on folks.

We learned this is junior school:

AND implies a decimal place, so "two thousand AND nine" = 2000.9

When you want to say 2009, you just say, "two thousand nine."
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i was taught 101= one hundred and one and such forth

if i want a decimal, i say one hundred POINT one for 100.1. i dont use "and" to signify a decimal
 
I don't know... Is this "and" to denote a decimal point an american thing? In sunny England I always say "point"... how else do you say any number over a hundred???

158 = One hundred AND fifty-eight
2556 = Two-thousand five-hundred AND fifty-six

although we use lots of ands if we're talking about money

£158.58 = One hundred AND fifty-eight AND fifty-eight pence...

EDIT: actually... thinking about it in the shower, most people say

£158.58 = One hundred AND fifty-eight pounds fifty-eight... with no and to signify the decimal point... when writing a cheque you'd say "One-hundred and fifty-eight pounds fifty-eight pence only". It's a shame in this world of internet banking and plastic cards - I hardly every get to write cheques any more...
 
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