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I also learned the convention that saying "and" in regards to a number implies a decimal point so I say "two thousand nine"

As for the question a few posts down:
158 = "One hundred fifty-eight"
2556 = "Two-thousand five-hundred fifty-six"
 
Why do we use years with leading zeroes when we write dates?

Why is Valentine's Day written 2/14/09 and 14/2/09? Why not 2/14/9 and 14/2/9? Either way, you have to know in advance what order the fields are in, so why write more than you have to?

On the flipside, if you like leading zeroes, you aren't using enough. You should be writing 02/14/009 and 14/02/009!
 
i was taught that you say AND only if its a decimal: 10.90 ten dollars and ninety cents. or 100.5 one hundred and five tenths.....

so i would say two thousand nine.
 
I'm saying "to tusen og ni", which translates - word for word - to "two thousand and nine". I was born in "nitten sytti", i.e. "nineteen seventy".

I guess we'll start shorten it at some time, using "twenty" plus something, like "twenty eighteen".

I still think next year will be "two thousand and ten", and then "two thousand and eleven" and probably "two thousand and twelve", but then - as the millennium goes into it's teens - I might go over to "twenty thirteen" and take it from there...

In Norway, we're not even quite finished with how numbers between 21 and 99 are actually are pronounced: Eg. is 72 spoken as "two and seventy" or simply "seventy two"? The older you get the more likely you are to use the first form. I actually use both, interchangeably...
 
i say two nine. its just so much more hip than saying extra words you dont have too. thats also why im on this forum :p
 
It should always be year, month, day... once we adopt that as the standard then sorting will always be so much easier, sort by first column, then second, then third...

At least with day month year it is sort by third, second then first. Which is fine and why I call it reverse format.

Where as with the American system it would be sort by third, first and then second. :confused:

Why do we use years with leading zeroes when we write dates?

Why is Valentine's Day written 2/14/09 and 14/2/09? Why not 2/14/9 and 14/2/9? Either way, you have to know in advance what order the fields are in, so why write more than you have to?

On the flipside, if you like leading zeroes, you aren't using enough. You should be writing 02/14/009 and 14/02/009!

I actually write 14/02/09 or 01/02/09. So not the full compliment of leading zeros as described above but at least the symmetrical amount.

Although if I am saving a document on the computer with the date it would be 20090214

That is correct. Using "and" is improper and inaccurate. It does indicate a decimal point, hence why we write checks this way for $234.67:

Two-hundred thirty-four and 67/100 dollars.

Two thousand nine is correct. And yes, that's how I say it and I live in Chicago.

I think you should preface this with: In America

I find it quite odd that the mathematical operation for add is used to denote a decimal point.

If I had to write a check it would be:

two hundred and thirty four pounds and sixty seven pence only.


I really dislike it when (usually in American film) the date is expressed as January 2 just seems so so lazy, it should be pronounced "January the 2nd" or "2nd of January" (my preferred) or at ultimate worst January 2nd.
 
I really dislike it when (usually in American film) the date is expressed as January 2 just seems so so lazy, it should be pronounced "January the 2nd" or "2nd of January" (my preferred) or at ultimate worst January 2nd.

Yet they almost always say "4th of July". I'm sure there's some irony there :p
 
I don't know... Is this "and" to denote a decimal point an american thing? In sunny England I always say "point"... how else do you say any number over a hundred???

158 = One hundred AND fifty-eight
2556 = Two-thousand five-hundred AND fifty-six

although we use lots of ands if we're talking about money

£158.58 = One hundred AND fifty-eight AND fifty-eight pence...

EDIT: actually... thinking about it in the shower, most people say

£158.58 = One hundred AND fifty-eight pounds fifty-eight... with no and to signify the decimal point... when writing a cheque you'd say "One-hundred and fifty-eight pounds fifty-eight pence only". It's a shame in this world of internet banking and plastic cards - I hardly every get to write cheques any more...

At least with day month year it is sort by third, second then first. Which is fine and why I call it reverse format.

Where as with the American system it would be sort by third, first and then second. :confused:



I actually write 14/02/09 or 01/02/09. So not the full compliment of leading zeros as described above but at least the symmetrical amount.

Although if I am saving a document on the computer with the date it would be 20090214



I think you should preface this with: In America

I find it quite odd that the mathematical operation for add is used to denote a decimal point.

If I had to write a check it would be:

two hundred and thirty four pounds and sixty seven pence only.


I really dislike it when (usually in American film) the date is expressed as January 2 just seems so so lazy, it should be pronounced "January the 2nd" or "2nd of January" (my preferred) or at ultimate worst January 2nd.

How do you decide where to put the ands? Why is 2258 "two thousand two hundred and fifty eight" and not "two thousand and two hundred and fifty and eight"?

what happens when you have a very large number like 1,458,329? Where do you put in the ands? For me it's simply "one million four hundred fifty eight thousand three hundred twenty nine" for some it would seem that this is "one million, four hundred and fifty eight thousand and three hundred and twenty nine"
 
Two thousand nine, I'm from Missouri.

And I consider MM/DD/YY proper :D You normally say "February 15th, 2009" so it makes since to put that into shorthand in the same order, 2/15/09. The only time I hear "The 15th of February" is in fancy, formal speak, but for casual, it's always "February 15th"
 
speak american not english! :D

it only matters till next year... cause that will be "twenty ten"
 
How do you say "2009": two thousand (and) nine?

iSamarai,

Why stop there?

If you say the and in a number, as you say you do, how did you speak the year 10 years ago? Did you say "One thousand and nine hundred and niney and nine"? How would you say 1917, "One thousand and nine hundred and seventeen"?

It's a ridiculous exercise.

Who says you speak "British English"? I'm quite sure people in England speak hybrids of English as well as Americans do.

IF you do it in numbers as well, how would you speak a big number like 1,234,567,890? Let's go even further. If you speak "British English, do you know what a billion is? Americans and the rest of the world would say a billion is a thousand millions, but the English might say it's a million millions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion_(word)

Call it whatever you like!

Gary

PS. By the way, how would old English people say 1 billion one hundred million? (1,100,000,000) "One thousand one hundred million"? Screwy!
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Isamarai said...
As I speak british english, I always say the "and" in e.g. 2009, 234 etc.
(two thousand and nine, two hundred and thirty-four), and I know for a fact that different english regions based on british english also say the "and".
 
iSamarai,

Why stop there?

If you say the and in a number, as you say you do, how did you speak the year 10 years ago? Did you say "One thousand and nine hundred and niney and nine"? How would you say 1917, "One thousand and nine hundred and seventeen"?

It's a ridiculous exercise.

Did you read iSamarai's post?? He said this
I always say the "and" in e.g. 2009, 234 etc.
(two thousand and nine, two hundred and thirty-four), and I know for a fact that different english regions based on british english also say the "and".
He doesn't say Two hundred and thirty and four, as you seem to claim he does.

You say he says all the ands that are possible...but from what I can tell he doesn't. He says "two thousand and nine" and "three thousand and forty five" NOT three thousand and forty and five
 
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