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Just for the conspiracy nuts there.

Is there a copy of the file with the fingerprint scans uploaded to Apple's servers?

Is there now a fingerprint associated with my Apple ID

If so does the NSA now have a copy of fingerprint to associate with my iDevice or apple ID activity?

That aside in the absence of having more than one account on the device or the ability to store a few number if peoples prints it i would think it would have to have a passcode as a bypass.
 
Most gloves won't allow you to unlock the phone anyway. :)

But many do. My preferred gloves do(just normal gloves that happen to work) and you have a variety of capacitive gloves on the market. I've even seen capacitive thread you can sew into your preferred gloves.
 
I found an interesting article reporting from Mobile World Congress 2013 concerning a rival fingerprint scanner company to the one Apple purchased, CrucialTec.

There is a video attached which shows unlocking using fingerprint and considering the added security aspect for me (I can't be bothered typing a passcode all the time) it looks plenty quick enough for my needs.

They also talk about other useful features which I'm sure Apple will implement.

Storage of all 10 fingerprints for quick launching of camera, photos, banking / payment apps etc in addition to device unlocking.

Lockdown of particular apps, files / folders etc.

I will find this very useful I reckon providing Apple deliver it in a similar fashion.


Fingerprint scanners make the leap from spy flicks to your smartphone

That looks really cool, and seems fast enough!
 
While Aurhentecs software tends to be fast and accurate bigger question is ...has Apple implemented this in the 5S??? Hate to say it but
The part shown doesn't look right. Just my opinion Hopefully it is in the 5S as there are many useful applications to a FPS
 
Yeah, I would imagine the reader on your phone is going to accumulate a lot more oil and residue on it as well which will likely make the scan more difficult.
That's a non-issue. It is not an optical scanner. Authentec touted the ability of its RF (radio waves) fingerprint sensor -- which Apple acquired-- to scan your prints through plastic.
 
What is up with all these concerns?
Apple isn't stupid.. I am sure they have tested, tested, tested and retested to make sure all your scenarios or concerns have been addressed.
 
What is up with all these concerns?
Apple isn't stupid.. I am sure they have tested, tested, tested and retested to make sure all your scenarios or concerns have been addressed.

Agree. And I believe one can disable it, use the passcode again, if one is concerned with it. Time will tell if the sensor works correctly or not. ;)
 
You know another benefit, even if the fp sensor takes a couple of seconds, is replacing entering in passwords which I HATE to do. Apple seems intelligent enough to provide software which would allow you to use the fp sensor in place of passwords on the phone, internet, apps, etc., they would be incredibly stupid not to include this.
 
Here's a quote from a website about Authentec's sensor technology:

AuthenTec wanted a technology partner who could help them "take biometrics into areas where we have never been able to go before," while meeting the company's key needs for low cost, fast identification time, and good power management. Powered by a Blackfin processor, fingerprint identification algorithms and dataflow that previously required more than a full second to execute are executed in less than less than one-half second.

http://m.analog.com/mt/www.analog.com/en/content/authentic_fingerprint_matching_with_blackfin/fca.html
 
What if? What if its not a fingerprint scanner but a notification light? (Mind blown).
 
I believe it will be instant. And you won't hold your thumb down, you'll swipe it.

The purpose of many fingerprint scanners is to determine "who you are" (1:n or one-to-many identification).

On the iPhone, the purpose is to determine "if you are you" (1:1 or one-to-one identification)

Searching a database of several thousand print algorithms to find the best match can take time.

Searching a database of one print algorithm to find out if it's a match or not would be instant.

Exceptionally well put.
 
I have to use a finger print scanner, and ID card swipe, at work to enter some of the more secure areas and it takes a few seconds for it to read/register and unlock the door. I can't imagine one working better on a phone.

In any case one should expect it to be faster than pressing the Home button and then entering the passcode. That's assuming it works flawlessly of course.
 
If there is a fingerprint scanner which is doubtful as we have seen no leaks except for pictures from sonny duck sons sight which are most likely fake. If it is on there than I don't think speed will be am issue
 
Just for the conspiracy nuts there.

Is there a copy of the file with the fingerprint scans uploaded to Apple's servers?

Is there now a fingerprint associated with my Apple ID

If so does the NSA now have a copy of fingerprint to associate with my iDevice or apple ID activity?

That aside in the absence of having more than one account on the device or the ability to store a few number if peoples prints it i would think it would have to have a passcode as a bypass.

Since the fingerprint is just used to unlock the phone, I don't see why it should be transmitted or stored anywhere but on the device. But as I've said to others who have asked similar questions or brought up scenarios such as their finger being used while they're unconscious, if you have any reservations about the security of the fingerprint scanner, just don't use it. It's safe to assume that the traditional means of locking your phone will still be available.
 
I found an interesting article reporting from Mobile World Congress 2013 concerning a rival fingerprint scanner company to the one Apple purchased, CrucialTec.

There is a video attached which shows unlocking using fingerprint and considering the added security aspect for me (I can't be bothered typing a passcode all the time) it looks plenty quick enough for my needs.

They also talk about other useful features which I'm sure Apple will implement.

Storage of all 10 fingerprints for quick launching of camera, photos, banking / payment apps etc in addition to device unlocking.

Lockdown of particular apps, files / folders etc.

I will find this very useful I reckon providing Apple deliver it in a similar fashion.


Fingerprint scanners make the leap from spy flicks to your smartphone

Well it looks like CrucialTec's implementation is significantly more in depth and capable than Apple's at the moment.

There's time for that to change though with new integrations moving forward.
 
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