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it runs like butterly I have no problem with iOS 8.3 even though there might be bugs hidden somewhere we will never find out. You should try it out. :apple:
 
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The Air runs just as good on iOS8 as it has run on iOS7. And iOS8 is better. Improvements to safari are particularly helpful.
 
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it runs like butterly I have no problem with iOS 8.3 even though there might be bugs hidden somewhere we will never find out. You should try it out. :apple:

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The Air runs just as good on iOS8 as it has run on iOS7. And iOS8 is better. Improvements to safari are particularly helpful.

Thanks both of you! Thinking of getting one. I know the iPad Air 2 is obviously an option as well, but saving that $100 appeals to me as well, especially if the iPad Air 1 will be fast enough / runs iOS 8 without issues. Thanks!!
 
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, iOS 8 is BAD on my mini 2, which is the same as an iPad Air 1. Nothing is slow, but everything stutters and drops frames and refreshes due to low RAM. Not a problem at all on iPad Air 2. I would wait till November and get yourself an iPad Air 2 for the same price you are looking at the Air 1 for. Or get a refurbished Air 2. Or wait till November and get the Air 3 if you are considering paying the full price at all. If you are really good at waiting, wait till Black Friday and get an Air 3 really cheap.

it runs like butterly I have no problem with iOS 8.3 even though there might be bugs hidden somewhere we will never find out. You should try it out. :apple:

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The Air runs just as good on iOS8 as it has run on iOS7. And iOS8 is better. Improvements to safari are particularly helpful.

What improvements were made to safari? If anything it's slower and refreshes tabs more, not the other way around. Either you guys are blind, you are blatantly ignoring the problems the A7 iPads have, or are being jerks because simply leaving an app stutters 90% of the time, as well as popping up the keyboard, turning the iPad when a keyboard is displayed, using control center over a keyboard or on lock screen, starting Siri, sliding down for spotlight, etc etc etc. You won't notice some of those if you have reduce motion or reduce transparency enabled.

For the love of God, DON'T get the iPad Air 1, you may as well spend another $100 for an iPad that actually runs the OS like a premium device should.
 
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iOS 8.3 runs great on my iPad Air. I've never noticed any stuttering, frame drops or other BS. Tabs reloading I have no idea I've never seen this but I really have more than a couple tabs open. All the games I've played play great and look great. Hatters gonna hate.
 
iOS 8.3 runs great on my iPad Air. I've never noticed any stuttering, frame drops or other BS. Tabs reloading I have no idea I've never seen this but I really have more than a couple tabs open. All the games I've played play great and look great. Hatters gonna hate.

Yeah, apps, games, etc run perfectly fine, everything is fast, it's just the UI sucks and is so stuttery and drops so many frames. Don't say it doesn't, (ON DEFAULT SETTINGS, INCREASE CONTRAST AND REDUCE MOTION FIXES MANY ISSUES) because if you tap on the URL bar in landscape right now, it will stutter. Guaranteed. Same for if you want to turn the iPad when in spotlight, power down screen, App Store, any situation with a keyboard open, etc. You can't deny these things unless your eyes simply don't perceive frame drops for some reason.
 
iOS 8.3 runs great on my iPad Air. I've never noticed any stuttering, frame drops or other BS. Tabs reloading I have no idea I've never seen this but I really have more than a couple tabs open. All the games I've played play great and look great. Hatters gonna hate.

I have no issues either. I don't know what that Lance-guy's talking about.
 
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I have no idea what you guys are talking about, iOS 8 is BAD on my mini 2, which is the same as an iPad Air 1. Nothing is slow, but everything stutters and drops frames and refreshes due to low RAM. Not a problem at all on iPad Air 2. I would wait till November and get yourself an iPad Air 2 for the same price you are looking at the Air 1 for. Or get a refurbished Air 2. Or wait till November and get the Air 3 if you are considering paying the full price at all. If you are really good at waiting, wait till Black Friday and get an Air 3 really cheap.





What improvements were made to safari? If anything it's slower and refreshes tabs more, not the other way around. Either you guys are blind, you are blatantly ignoring the problems the A7 iPads have, or are being jerks because simply leaving an app stutters 90% of the time, as well as popping up the keyboard, turning the iPad when a keyboard is displayed, using control center over a keyboard or on lock screen, starting Siri, sliding down for spotlight, etc etc etc. You won't notice some of those if you have reduce motion or reduce transparency enabled.

For the love of God, DON'T get the iPad Air 1, you may as well spend another $100 for an iPad that actually runs the OS like a premium device should.

I don't use Safari on my Air that much so I can't tell you sorry. :apple:
 
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The Air runs just as good on iOS8 as it has run on iOS7. And iOS8 is better. Improvements to safari are particularly helpful.

Same results here. I updated with a little concern. It's been fine - I cannot tell the difference - other than that I don't all the "can't update this app" and "can't install this app" messages that I get with my iPod Touch 5 that's still on 7.1.2. :rolleyes:
 
I don't notice almost any difference in smoothness between ios 7 and 8.3 with my mini 2. It runs fine for me.
 
Ipad Air drops frames like crazy on iOS 8(.3). Anyone who says their ipad Airs don't do it needs to look better.

Just try pulling spotlight down and then rotate the screen and tell me what you see!? A pathetic and embarrassing 5 fps rotating animation.
 
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Ipad Air drops frames like crazy on iOS 8(.3). Anyone who says their ipad Airs don't do it needs to look better.

Just try pulling spotlight down and then rotate the screen and tell me what you see!? A pathetic and embarrassing 5 fps rotating animation.

FINALLY someone who doesn't need their eyes checked.
 
Ipad Air drops frames like crazy on iOS 8(.3). Anyone who says their ipad Airs don't do it needs to look better.

Just try pulling spotlight down and then rotate the screen and tell me what you see!? A pathetic and embarrassing 5 fps rotating animation.

That's also on Air 2. It's not Air 1 specific. Until these "optimizations" don't come from iOS 9, iOS 8.x.x is still going to blow.
 
I couldn't agree more with the lancer, iOS 8.3 makes my iPad Air 1 3G feel like an iPhone 4. Whenever I'm browsing on safari I experience micro stuttering, heavy lag with the assistive touch, lag on using control Center, spotlight, Notification Center , rotations, random stuttering when panning the home screen and so on. Absolutely disappointed compared to the old 7.1.2
 
Ahh, I have an iPad Mini 1 and want to upgrade to an iPad Air 1. iOS 8 runs on my Mini 1, but is a bit laggy. I'm thinking the iPad Air 1 would still be an upgrade, though....
 
I have no issues either. I don't know what that Lance-guy's talking about.

There are always a couple of doom and gloomers out there. Whatever.

The Air runs the latest OS perfectly. And that's the end of that. Sure, maybe there are use cases where the Air 2 would be better for someone but for most people the Air is an excellent tablet with TONS of life left in it. They are great buys now too which just sweetens the deal.

Besides, the Air 2 isn't free from its own issues as this forum and others have pointed out time and time again.
 
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There are always a couple of doom and gloomers out there. Whatever.

The Air runs the latest OS perfectly. And that's the end of that. Sure, maybe there are use cases where the Air 2 would be better for someone but for most people the Air is an excellent tablet with TONS of life left in it. They are great buys now too which just sweetens the deal.

Besides, the Air 2 isn't free from its own issues as this forum and others have pointed out time and time again.

Please post a video of you doing following on your iPad Air:

-Pulling spotlight down and then rotating the screen
-Open Safari, activate split keyboard, then pull control center up
 
There are always a couple of doom and gloomers out there. Whatever.

The Air runs the latest OS perfectly. And that's the end of that. Sure, maybe there are use cases where the Air 2 would be better for someone but for most people the Air is an excellent tablet with TONS of life left in it. They are great buys now too which just sweetens the deal.

Besides, the Air 2 isn't free from its own issues as this forum and others have pointed out time and time again.

Please post a video of you doing following on your iPad Air:

-Pulling spotlight down and then rotating the screen
-Open Safari, activate split keyboard, then pull control center up

Filming in 60FPS and uploading that (in 60FPS on YouTube then give us the link) would be the best idea because some things may be smoothed over if viewed in the standard 30FPS. I can assure that many of these things will be visible even in 30FPS. Rotate App Store, rotate keyboard, rotate spotlight, rotate power down screen, rotate keyboard, rotate split keyboard, tap URL bar in spotlight then type something in with lots of results (like wiki) split keyboard, then bring up control center or do anything. Control center also stutters on lock screen and over open folders, but that will be less visible on camera.

If you still are denying stutter after that, you simply are ignoring it because you don't want to believe your at least $500 iPad has been screwed by the trash Apple released for it. Simple as that. Understandable though. There's no denying the horrible performance of iOS 8 on A7 iPads.
 
Filming in 60FPS and uploading that (in 60FPS on YouTube then give us the link) would be the best idea because some things may be smoothed over if viewed in the standard 30FPS. I can assure that many of these things will be visible even in 30FPS. Rotate App Store, rotate keyboard, rotate spotlight, rotate power down screen, rotate keyboard, rotate split keyboard, tap URL bar in spotlight then type something in with lots of results (like wiki) split keyboard, then bring up control center or do anything. Control center also stutters on lock screen and over open folders, but that will be less visible on camera.

If you still are denying stutter after that, you simply are ignoring it because you don't want to believe your at least $500 iPad has been screwed by the trash Apple released for it. Simple as that. Understandable though. There's no denying the horrible performance of iOS 8 on A7 iPads.

I don't deny the stutter, but I don't see it that often. My iPad has not been screwed and as I use it now it works perfectly fine, I like iOS 8 as well, and the little lag(you may have lots of lag) does not bother me and does not ruin the experience.
 
I actually went in to the Apple store and played around with both the Air 1 and Air 2 today. I'm torn because while I like the thin profile of the Air 2 (not that the Air 1 is bulky by any means!), I did notice the back and screen vibrations when watching something with the volume even partially turned up. That being said, I don't really watch many movies or listen to music on my iPad. If I am going to watch something, it tends to be the occasional YouTube clip. So... maybe while that is present it's not something that would affect me often.

That being said, is it naive to think I could get at least a few (say... 3) good years out of an Air 1?
 
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