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I can't wait till my midlife crisis! It will pwn. I will go with electronics
instead of fast cars. Huge MacPro with what... a 16 core cpu? LOL : )
Who knows what we will have in 10 years.

Yah guys, mom had Cancer, she smoked her whole life (we think that was the cause), had heart problems, diabetes etc. And her last few years she was on 50 pills a day. I am totally trying to stay healthy. I should have quit smoking earlier in life, the added wind that you gain back is amazing.

Couldn't even finish a mile in high school, and when I did it was .. 13-14mins. ahaha Just broke my mile record and finished at 5:45.. and doing 5k in 21 mins. I am trying to shave that time down though.
 
23?

I have clothes older than you. Very serious. My prize is a great U.S.N. issue wool pea coat at 34 years. It was old before you were born.;)


ROFLMAO!!!!

Yeah, I have clothes older than that, too!

As for my midlife crisis, I finally burned out on my career--journalism, which I had loved for decades--so I scaled back, and have taken up art with the (small bit of) extra time. Can't wait to retire, so I can spend more time on the art and my garden and travel!

So far, for me, the only downside to (late) middle age is how often I have to get up at night to go to the darn bathroom. One time during the night is a GOOD night ... :rolleyes:
 
Not as powerful as some diseases, injuries and other nasty things. But you will learn the hard way it seems.

OK, what is exactly up with you that you're wishing harm on me? What is the problem? Of course there are all kinds of things that can happen, I've been through some of them like I told you earlier. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit around whining about them. Life is too short.

To fantasy land?

Yeah, sounds like you need it.
 
OK, what is exactly up with you that you're wishing harm on me? What is the problem? Of course there are all kinds of things that can happen, I've been through some of them like I told you earlier. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit around whining about them. Life is too short.



Yeah, sounds like you need it.

Where did you get me wishing harm on you? I didnt say anything of the sort. Read it again. I was simply refuting that you have as much control over these things as you are stating. You made the comment that it can be good if you WANT it to be. That is incredibly naive and false. All the want in the world won't change many of the challenges of health or things that can happen. I am not sitting around whining about anything...just disagreeing with your declaration that it can be good simply if you WANT it.
 
Where did you get me wishing harm on you? I didnt say anything of the sort. Read it again. I was simply refuting that you have as much control over these things as you are stating.

You said, I'd have to "learn the hard way", which doesn't exactly sound like wishing me well. We all have a certain amount of control over ourselves and what we do. If we choose to make ourselves miserable we will be, and vice versa. Jesus- I already told you I have arthritis in both my knees that prevents me from running. But it doesn't keep me from doing other things to stay in shape- not at all. I don't sit around crying about it either. I also have postherpetic neuralgia, which is nerve damage after having shingles. That is also extremely painful at times, but it's up to me whether I sit around and whine about it, or get on with my life. I'll take the latter, thanks.

Then you accuse me of living in fantasy land, which certainly was not a friendly remark. And it sounds like you need a little fantasy in your life anyway.

Where did you get me wishing harm on you? I didnt say anything of the sort. Read it again. I was simply refuting that you have as much control over these things as you are stating. You made the comment that it can be good if you WANT it to be. That is incredibly naive and false. All the want in the world won't change many of the challenges of health or things that can happen. I am not sitting around whining about anything...just disagreeing with your declaration that it can be good simply if you WANT it.

Wanting it is certainly where it starts. We can't always control what happens to us, but we certainly control how we deal with it.
 
23 is middle age now? :eek: I'm feeling so old.
I'm not quite 50 but I suspect to be worse for wear than most have describe above. :eek: But boys, don't forget that at 50 you can, without a doubt, be hot sh*t and well worth the time of many women. Not that it counters stubborn poops and needing help driving at night, but it may not be the worst. :eek:

It can be a combination of genetics and stress (work you do) that can contribute to how you look.

I knew a very successful CPA and she looked close to 50 but was around 40. But I also knew a similar looking woman who was close to 40 but looked 30, but she was a dancer. Though these women were around the same age, one could pass for the mother of the other.
 
Well the good news is that I'm not yet 39, so I'm not middle aged.

The bad news is that I will be this week :(

I've lived a fantastically unhealthy lifestyle of food, booze, high stress and a few other hedonistic activities - so age will come to me prematurely I'm sure.

I got my class A motorcycle licence 5 years ago - so I've been there and done that.
Been learning to play metal on the electric guitar for the last 2 years
Dropped out of work and I've spent the summer doing bizarre meditations and other wierd stuff.

I don't think I'm going to have a mid life crisis... I think I'll settle for a whole life crisis.
 
Well the good news is that I'm not yet 39, so I'm not middle aged.

The bad news is that I will be this week :(

I've lived a fantastically unhealthy lifestyle of food, booze, high stress and a few other hedonistic activities - so age will come to me prematurely I'm sure.

I got my class A motorcycle licence 5 years ago - so I've been there and done that.
Been learning to play metal on the electric guitar for the last 2 years
Dropped out of work and I've spent the summer doing bizarre meditations and other wierd stuff.

I don't think I'm going to have a mid life crisis... I think I'll settle for a whole life crisis.

In the United States, growing up, the age of "40" was a magic number signaling arriving at middle age. However, I lived in England too and had an older, still pretty, girlfriend in her 30s and she, and most people I met saw middle age as "35". I thought that sounded young and then I saw a movie set in England with Christian Bale, and his character was a middle-aged English man, 35 years old.

The point to where the bones and sexual reproduction most noticeably take a nosedive starts on average at age 39 with the human race. So whether you live in a country like Somalia where the life expectancy is 51 or Okinawa where it's not uncommon for people to reach age 90, 39 seems to be medically middle aged based on one's body. But mentally how one feels, how young one feels, may have nothing to do with how fast your body ages, or when the onset of physical aging kicks in.

At my 20th year reunion, most of us were 37 and there was a marked difference between people who spent the last 20 years in a fairly physical job (EMTs, construction workers, policemen) vs. sedintary jobs (stock brokers, accountants, bankers). If one sits 8 hours a day or more, year after year, no amount of after work gym time, or weekend mountain biking will give you the muscles or abs of a person who spent their career as a firefighter or solider in the special forces.

But not all of us are cut out to work a physical job for many years. By far the best bodies I have seen are those who are professional dancers or aerobic instructors, and when such people enter their late-30s, it's then when they look ten years younger than their peers.
 
At my 20th year reunion, most of us were 37 and there was a marked difference between people who spent the last 20 years in a fairly physical job (EMTs, construction workers, policemen) vs. sedintary jobs (stock brokers, accountants, bankers). If one sits 8 hours a day or more, year after year, no amount of after work gym time, or weekend mountain biking will give you the muscles or abs of a person who spent their career as a firefighter or solider in the special forces.

Not true at all. I work in an office, and have for over a decade. After work or before work gym time will definitely give you those muscles, believe me.
 
Above all, I think its most important to try and keep off excess weight as one gets older if you can. Being overweight or obese will cause you more health problems and misery than anything else in middle age and beyond.
 
At my 20th year reunion, most of us were 37 and there was a marked difference between people who spent the last 20 years in a fairly physical job (EMTs, construction workers, policemen) vs. sedintary jobs (stock brokers, accountants, bankers). If one sits 8 hours a day or more, year after year, no amount of after work gym time, or weekend mountain biking will give you the muscles or abs of a person who spent their career as a firefighter or solider in the special forces.

But not all of us are cut out to work a physical job for many years. By far the best bodies I have seen are those who are professional dancers or aerobic instructors, and when such people enter their late-30s, it's then when they look ten years younger than their peers.

I think any physically active person has the potential to be in good shape as they get older. Certainly, people who are in physically active occupations tend to be in better shape than the general population.

However, even a person who has a desk job can be in great shape if they want to. People who think that a desk job means that you'll *inevitably* be out of shape simply because of the type of work they do are merely looking for an excuse to shove another cupcake down their throat. This is the type of self-defeating mentality that is causing the obesity rate in our country to skyrocket.
 
I think any physically active person has the potential to be in good shape as they get older. Certainly, people who are in physically active occupations tend to be in better shape than the general population.

However, even a person who has a desk job can be in great shape if they want to. People who think that a desk job means that you'll *inevitably* be out of shape simply because of the type of work they do are merely looking for an excuse to shove another cupcake down their throat. This is the type of self-defeating mentality that is causing the obesity rate in our country to skyrocket.

I would agree. It doesn't take as much time as people think it does. All you really need is four/five hours a week.
 
Not true at all. I work in an office, and have for over a decade. After work or before work gym time will definitely give you those muscles, believe me.

You will find the rare exception. During winters, I would always work some office job (while outdoors was what I did during 9 months of the year), and it was a general trend to see often, even mostly fat people in the office, or if they were thin, they had no muscle tone and looked like candidates for early osteo. Yes, there were the rare, rare exceptions.

However, if you spent 20-25 years in the landscaping, construction, or public safety industry, you will see that being physically fit is necessary to get the job done. I have never, in all those years, saw even one person fifty pounds overweight. Now in the office situations, whether it be a small office, government office, or private corporation, not only did I see people fifty pounds overweight, I saw people one hundred pounds overweight. The sheer size of the average office person would not make a great landscaper or EMT.

Perhaps you work in an office and keep good care of your body, and if that's the case, then good for you. You may have perfect abs and maybe you can bench 305. But work outdoors for a living, you just won't find the same type of soft-fat/flabby people running into burning buildings, joining the FBI, being a Green Beret, or several stories up in a tree with a chainsaw.

If you are a brilliant CEO and look like Grover Cleveland, then so be it as long as you are great at what you do and make six figures, but even the lowest paid rookie in the lowest paid police department won't be allowed to be like ol Grover. There ain't any landscapers, firemen, or roofers who can get away with being well over 300 pounds. But for an indoor desk job, even if that's the oval office as it was in Grover's case, weight is not an issue. For those of you who don't know Grover, here's his portrait. ;)
 

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Well, I'm still in school, so I wouldn't have had much chance to do something that 99% people haven't done...

I've watched over 100 anime. Maybe that counts? :rolleyes:
 
You will find the rare exception. During winters, I would always work some office job (while outdoors was what I did during 9 months of the year), and it was a general trend to see often, even mostly fat people in the office, or if they were thin, they had no muscle tone and looked like candidates for early osteo. Yes, there were the rare, rare exceptions.

However, if you spent 20-25 years in the landscaping, construction, or public safety industry, you will see that being physically fit is necessary to get the job done. I have never, in all those years, saw even one person fifty pounds overweight. Now in the office situations, whether it be a small office, government office, or private corporation, not only did I see people fifty pounds overweight, I saw people one hundred pounds overweight. The sheer size of the average office person would not make a great landscaper or EMT.

Perhaps you work in an office and keep good care of your body, and if that's the case, then good for you. You may have perfect abs and maybe you can bench 305. But work outdoors for a living, you just won't find the same type of soft-fat/flabby people running into burning buildings, joining the FBI, being a Green Beret, or several stories up in a tree with a chainsaw.

If you are a brilliant CEO and look like Grover Cleveland, then so be it as long as you are great at what you do and make six figures, but even the lowest paid rookie in the lowest paid police department won't be allowed to be like ol Grover. There ain't any landscapers, firemen, or roofers who can get away with being well over 300 pounds. But for an indoor desk job, even if that's the oval office as it was in Grover's case, weight is not an issue. For those of you who don't know Grover, here's his portrait. ;)

Again, I call BS. I have a friend who's done construction all his life, and is quite hefty. Go to any construction site in the city of Chicago, and unless they're young, the guys are not normally what I would call even remotely fit. Fact is- it takes work to stay in shape, no matter what your occupation. You obviously haven't seen Chicago cops either. Now there's a hefty bunch. I don't know where you're getting your info.
 
i have to agree with lee. i worked in various outdoor and construction jobs for about a decade and I'm still over weight. Many people i worked with were too. The fit and hunky ones were going to the gyum after work and were considerably younger than the rest of us.

As for my own middle age, it's all around my middle and has been since I was 10. After reading this entire thread I think I'm gonna go home tonight and get on the treadmill again. No crises, unless you consider i got married, but to somebody a little older. I never do these things in the right order........:rolleyes:
 
Again, I call BS. I have a friend who's done construction all his life, and is quite hefty. Go to any construction site in the city of Chicago, and unless they're young, the guys are not normally what I would call even remotely fit. Fact is- it takes work to stay in shape, no matter what your occupation. You obviously haven't seen Chicago cops either. Now there's a hefty bunch. I don't know where you're getting your info.

I definitely say that what we see as the truth are both correct, the reason being is because where we live.

The SF Bay Area, and Los Angeles (to the south) are about staying fit with a large portion of the population, so the cops here are not hefty on average. I don't see the stereotypical donut-eating fat cop here often. If I spent only a month in an office or a month in an outdoor occupation in California, then I could say I probably don't have info.

I have been in the working world for 35 years, inside and out, but I do admit it was in the context of health conscious Northern California. People are fit on average, into health food, and the fitter ones work outdoors, but our mild weather allows for lots of hours put outdoors.

Chicago, I assume has cold weather where outdoor workers cannot be out as much. Chicago, I assume, may not have the fitness craze thing going like California. I can't assume Chicago culture, but you shouldn't assume my 35 years of work experience in California, both in offices and in outdoor occupations. You can read all you want about California and figure out that fitness is huge here, but unless you live and work here for a long time, you just won't get it.

We are not even arguing on the same point.

You are talking about what you see in a different culture and climate than me.

Now come out here, live and work here for 35 years, both indoors and outdoors, before you even think of telling me what I am , where I live, or the culture that exists here. You have absolutely no idea what it is to live in health conscious California for three and a half decades, over even two and a half decades. I will even go on a limb and say you probably have not even lived here, in my state, for five years straight.

You are in shape, and that is great, but you are only either talking about your health or your city/state. California, living here long term, (try at least five years in LA or SF Bay area), has either a great (or weird) attention to physical health. I do say, however, that too many of us are into weird, untested remedies, and are new-age about our health to the point where too many of us don't trust doctors, against our better judgment.

The first thing you will notice when you come here are the cops, and the CHP in particular. They are not portrayed erroneously on CHiPs, the tv show. They really are that fit. OK, I can see you hopping in a plane to call my buff. ;)

Now as for Baywatch, yes the guards are very fit, but the Pam Anderson thing is a little Hollywood and that show was more appropriate for Victoria's Secret than as a completely accurate portrayal of California lifeguards. But I will bet you won't find any office jockeys in Chicago, as a group, that are more fit than our California lifeguards. If they are that fit, then we can use your help!
 
If you are a brilliant CEO and look like Grover Cleveland, then so be it as long as you are great at what you do and make six figures, but even the lowest paid rookie in the lowest paid police department won't be allowed to be like ol Grover. There ain't any landscapers, firemen, or roofers who can get away with being well over 300 pounds. But for an indoor desk job, even if that's the oval office as it was in Grover's case, weight is not an issue. For those of you who don't know Grover, here's his portrait. ;)

Could just be me, but is that not W.H. Taft?
 
I would agree. It doesn't take as much time as people think it does. All you really need is four/five hours a week.

Agreed, taking off weight (burning fat/gaining muscle) takes a long time, maintaining does not. When I am in prime fitness I don't even really worry about what I am eating for the most part (i don't usually eat particularly unhealthy anyways though).
 
Agreed, taking off weight (burning fat/gaining muscle) takes a long time, maintaining does not. When I am in prime fitness I don't even really worry about what I am eating for the most part (i don't usually eat particularly unhealthy anyways though).

Of the people I know who don't run and lift weights regularly nearly all have a medical/physical reason not to. I used to be one of those people who thought anyone who doesn't is just being lazy. It is one of those things you won't understand until you are there and then you will think "damn I shouldn't have been so smug".

There comes a time in most all of our lives where just trying to eat decent and stretching etc is going to be the best you can do. Don't believe me? Just wait ;)
 
Of the people I know who don't run and lift weights regularly nearly all have a medical/physical reason not to. I used to be one of those people who thought anyone who doesn't is just being lazy. It is one of those things you won't understand until you are there and then you will think "damn I shouldn't have been so smug".

There comes a time in most all of our lives where just trying to eat decent and stretching etc is going to be the best you can do. Don't believe me? Just wait ;)

No doubt my youth is helping me somewhat, everyone's genes are different. On one side of my family my grandfather's brother is still running a roofing crew and he actually gets up there and works. Most middle aged guys here would be crying by the end of the day. :eek:
 
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