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Yeah, so pleased OS X takes fewer clicks cos I change my DNS server several times a day...
 
I wrote it and now I'll provide one example: setting custom DNS servers. I think it is clear Apple has put a lot of thought into this area and the simplicty of the solution shines through.

Changing DNS Servers (Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard)
Click Through:
[1] Open System Preferences (Dock, Apple Menu or Airport menu).
[2] Click Network Preferences (which may already be open, depending how you did one)
[3] Click “Advanced”
[4] Click “DNS”

Search:
This gets you to the DNS Screen. You can also type “DNS” into System Preference search. Select “DNS Servers” and it drops you straight to step 4.

Changing DNS Server (Windows 7 Home Premium)
Click Through:
[1] Open the Network and Sharing Center (via the tray or using start menu search)
[2] Click “Change Adapter Settings”
[3] Right Click on your adapter (e.g. Wired/Wireless)
[4] Choose Properties
[5] Click “Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)” or “Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)” from the “This connection uses the following items” list.
[6] Click the “Properties” button underneath the list.
{6.5} If you have UAC cranked up you'll need to confirm at this stage, so click “Yes”.
[7] To enter more than 2 addresses (as in the interested of balance Apple UI provides this at step four) click “Advanced”.
[8] Then click the “DNS” tab.

Search:
Alternatively you can “DNS” into the start menu or control panel search. This brings back one result (the “Connections” tab from Internet Properties), which is the wrong place. So the search fails to find the right location.

So here are key the differences:
[1] The Snow Leopard search actually works and brings up the correct location to change the DNS Servers.
[2] On click through, the Snow Leopard UI is faster as it requires fewer steps.
[3] The Snow Leopard UI offers less confusing terminology. There is only an “Advanced” button and a “DNS” tab. There is no “Change Adapter Settings” step, no right clicking to find hidden options** and no “This connection uses the following items” list to navigate and (possibly) pick the wrong item from (Snow Leopard provides transparent support for IPv6).
[4] The Snow Leopard UI provides the opportunity to add more than two DNS servers without opening another dialog.
[5] The Snow Leopard UI handles IPv6 setup at the same time as IPv4.

**There is a “Change Setting of this connection” button in the toolbar, however the standard window size is too small to show it, so I missed it first time and right clicked on the adpater. Either way it doesn't make a difference to the number of clicks.


Me personally, I have never used something as easy to use as osx. I have ran BBS systems in Dos, Windows, and managed an internet service provider before. I am only 29 years old, but I have been using pc's since 1992.
I only started using macs 2 months ago. Your right. The network configuration in windows is freaking annoying half the time, and you need
to restart after most of your changes. The configuring dns server post you posted made me laugh, because your right. Also because of all the frustrations Windows Networking has caused me in the past.

Better options, less steps = happier networkers.
 
Yeah, so pleased OS X takes fewer clicks cos I change my DNS server several times a day...

Congratulations for honing in on the detail and missing point.

But seriously though, I'm truly happy for you that you are so smart, witty and sarcastic.
 
Not sure about that. But it's pretty close. I'm actually quite disappointed that MS couldn't have blown people's socks off given the amount of time they had to work on it and given the amount of time Leopard/SL has been out for them to mimic even more. I like their Window "snap" feature that aligns windows and the dock is ok.

But the UI in Win7 just looks "dull" to me - kind of "toyish". It's not sharp and bright like OSX even without Aero. And even though OSX's fonts could use some smoothing improvement, Win7's general fonts still look like crap to me.

Nevertheless, it's getting rave reviews. Of course that's not hard to do following Vista. Maybe this was Ms's plan all along. :D Kind of like when Coke changed their formula and were forced to go back resulting in market share being better than ever.

Yeah, maybe not decades, but OS X is obviously much better.

XP came out in 2001 (I think) Vista in 2006, and it was crap. What took them so long to come out with, whats perhaps worse than XP?! 7 is much better though.
I also love the "snap" feature, when I use 7, I use it all the time.
 
I also love the "snap" feature, when I use 7, I use it all the time.

Ditto. It's a great features and one of those things which seems obvious, but only now it's been done. And there were ways of organising Windows, but they weren't as quick, easy or reversible (by this I mean any “snapped” window returns to its pre-snap dimensions by dragging it again).
 
I wouldn't say OS X is "decades" ahead, but it's got a very significant lead, one that Microsoft honestly won't come close to beating unless they copy Apple in at least one major way...

Base a new version of Windows on UNIX at its core. Talk about better security, reliability and stability. They also need to get rid of that crap 90's technology of theirs called the Registry.

Back when Win95 came out, it seemed like a good idea to have all the settings conveniently stored in one central location, but with time and experience, the registry has really backfired on them.
 
from all IVE read-the Windows 7 update on VISTA is a growing disaster;
And those who manage to kick it into working say that its simply VISTA with a new font and color scheme at $200
I dont think the 21st Century will be very kind to Windows as we progress...
its 20th Century technology-(some would argue 19th century)

I cant even stand seeing "word-spray" on my screen

OK the above is from someone who hasn't used it.

Similar short sighted Windows users are calling Snow Leopard a Leopard service pack that deletes user information.

Having used Windows 7 extensively (I have been evaluating it as part of an upgrade our firm may be rolling out), it is lightweight, fast (faster than XP in some cases and faster than Vista in all cases) and actually a fine operating system. It has genuinely closed the gap. OSX IMO is still ahead, but MS have made a huge step forward, and have got Apple thinking. Which can only be good for 10.7 ;)
 
Take away your keyboard for a few minutes and sit there, arms stretched out, pointing all over your monitor. You really want that for your computer experience? I will say this, for certain applications (iPhoto, slideshows, etc) touch would be useful but its not really necessary when your trackpad/mouse can interpret these same movements.

The reason touch works so well in the mobile environment is because of the mobile environment. You are on the go, you have minute workspace, you need one-touch access to mail or internet. You aren't going to edit photos on your mobile device, you aren't going to type up an in-depth document, you won't create spreadsheets or slideshows.
 
I was getting annoyed with all the trolling on both sides, and all the name-calling, on both sides.

In here was some good comment just on the subject of touch screens. From those of us that have used it, links to research on external sources, a little bit of discussion on the future possibilities, and a lot of valid concerns about its usefulness in a desktop / laptop environment today.

Then the trolls jump in (on both sides), contribute absolutely nothing and change the topic with their "blinkered" visions (on both sides).

I'm afraid, if you think touch screens a "cool" feature, you've never used it. I hated it after using it (on and mostly off) for nearly a year. It just doesn't fly as it is. But I do think it has possibilities, even in a desktop, if you sort out the ergonomics.

Will it happen soon ? I don't think so, what with "The China Syndrome" - the mass production of cheap and nasty devices. This prevents investment from top quality manufacturers who would need to make it viable.

Does OSX need a massive overhaul to support it ? Not really, it's just another input device, all the support needed by OSX could come from the screen / screen overlay via it's USB / Bluetooth interface.
 
With the release of Windows 7 comes a lovely new BSOD:

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This one is caused by a "massive memory leak" contained in the CHKDSK utility.

source: http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/146995
 
I've heard that Windows 7 Starter edition can only run three applications simultaneously :eek: Is that true? :confused:
 
I've heard that Windows 7 Starter edition can only run three applications simultaneously :eek: Is that true? :confused:
May I suggest that you do some research first. The 3 application limit has been removed for months.

I guess it's still a problem two months later if you want to check your disks.
In the command line with very large hard drives and in low RAM situations. It's questionable as a leak. CHKDSK is going to consume obscene amounts of RAM to repair sectors faster.
 
In Windows 7, is the Start menu still a harbor for non dynamic shortcuts to hide the mess of DLLs, EXEs, INIs, etc. in the actual application folders? By non dynamic, I mean that the shortcuts are not associated in real time to the actual files they are linked to, so if you move the file, it's shortcut is confused... Hopefully MS brought that technology into this decade.
 
In Windows 7, is the Start menu still a harbor for non dynamic shortcuts to hide the mess of DLLs, EXEs, INIs, etc. in the actual application folders? By non dynamic, I mean that the shortcuts are not associated in real time to the actual files they are linked to, so if you move the file, it's shortcut is confused... Hopefully MS brought that technology into this decade.
Relevancy to the original topic in this thread? It's a non sequitur like the BSOD and Windows Starter posts.

This was pre-7 FAT. I've briefly used Windows 7 beta in a VM. It never crashed ;)
Move to NTFS and at least NT based operating system.
 
Relevancy to the original topic in this thread? It's a non sequitur like the BSOD and Windows Starter posts.

Move to NTFS and at least NT based operating system.
The OP claims Windows 7 jumps ahead of SL (because of multitouch) & asks "How long before OS X cathches up with Windows 7?". Kinda leaves the floodgates open if you ask me.
 
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