Qbnkelt
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Yeah that's my vague memory of it. So hopefully we will get an SE with more storage down the line?
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How long will apple keep the SE?
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Tthomas612
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This post is so wrong. The SE really doesn't have much from the 5s... the inside of the phone is all iPhone 6s
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Channan
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It's not the same chassis as the 5s. They can't just use leftover chassis because the 5s had polished chamfered edges and the SE's are matted. They didn't have to spend any money designing a new body, and production is no doubt cheaper that way, but they still have to make brand new parts specifically for the iPhone SE.
So people need to stop talking about Apple recycling old parts.
GrandeLatte
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At some point, you just have to respect and trust Apple to realize that they know what the hell they are doing.
They see a need for a 4in screen, they see the need for "pared down" essentials and super fast speed, and they produced a phone that's comparable to the 6s but at a minimum price.
I come across many high ranking businessmen in my job, and invariably, they all prefer the 4in form factor. They enjoy a portable phone that fits in their pant pockets and is slightly boxy and holds well in the hand. They are senior professional guys who want a phone just as a phone meanwhile they can do the heavy work later on their laptops or they have assistants who do that.
On the other end of the spectrum, I see lots of housewives with 5.5. They all have purses for their phones. Or they are shopping, doing their hair, picking up their kids with 5.5 in their hands.
Just from my personal observation, women prefer 5.5, more established men prefer 4, and the rest of the world go for the 4.7 or any model. Just my 2 cents.
Hey, what phone do you think Tim Cook carries?
They see a need for a 4in screen, they see the need for "pared down" essentials and super fast speed, and they produced a phone that's comparable to the 6s but at a minimum price.
I come across many high ranking businessmen in my job, and invariably, they all prefer the 4in form factor. They enjoy a portable phone that fits in their pant pockets and is slightly boxy and holds well in the hand. They are senior professional guys who want a phone just as a phone meanwhile they can do the heavy work later on their laptops or they have assistants who do that.
On the other end of the spectrum, I see lots of housewives with 5.5. They all have purses for their phones. Or they are shopping, doing their hair, picking up their kids with 5.5 in their hands.
Just from my personal observation, women prefer 5.5, more established men prefer 4, and the rest of the world go for the 4.7 or any model. Just my 2 cents.
Hey, what phone do you think Tim Cook carries?
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Seems like a lot of important things from the 6s that are in the SE are somehow just magically missing from that interesting list (in addition to some things being incorrect).
eVolcre
macrumors 68000
It's not about the screen size going forward, it's about the size of the body. My feeling is we won't see a 4" iPhone SE we'll see something larger. But the body stays the same size. Same with the 4.7 and the 5.5. Bezels disappear, we'll get larger screen sizes with the body style we're already used to. The other option would be to keep the same screen sizes but reduce the actual handset volume. I don't see that happening. Apple has us used to this size now. LOVE the iPhone SE btw. Came back to iPhones for the first time since 2010. And I'm one of those who had the original iPhone in 4GB. First one in Iraq, come to think of it, I was stationed there in 2007.
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sracer
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I think it is reasonable to see a 128GB SE option in the future. The SE is a "beast" (in the good sense of the word) hardware-wise so I don't see an SE2 coming next year.
I'm really curious as to what Apple execs are thinking and what their plan was for the SE. We can theorize and hypothesize, but I'd like to know the business decision for releasing the SE and where they think/want it to go.
Andres Cantu
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I think part of the plan was so that they won't have to sell a "free" iPhone 6 in the fall (which would have happened had the SE not been released). I know the SE is a much better phone, but there are probably many people that think the 6 is still better just because of the bigger screen (and probably have no clue about the A9, 2GB of RAM, and storage speeds).
In other words, they want to keep bigger screens at a premium price.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the iPhone SE is a concession, first and foremost.
A large segment of 4" owners were out there who were not budging or were very slow to buy the 4.7" phones.
Releasing this phone did several things:
- satisfied the 4" crowd by giving them a phone that was updated in most key areas (CPU, ram, camera, battery)
- while still expensive by some standards, it's still more affordable than the flagship models and Apple has something they can push in other countries/markets where price is a bigger role
- obviously, a boost to their bottom line without incurring too much in retooling to produce, market, or advertise.
It remains to be seen whether Apple refreshes the SE in 1-3 years, or whether even better if it rejoins the yearly lineup. The 4.7" and 5.5" will always be the upper echelon phones, but the 4" phone market should not be ignored.
Let's hope Apple gets that message.
A large segment of 4" owners were out there who were not budging or were very slow to buy the 4.7" phones.
Releasing this phone did several things:
- satisfied the 4" crowd by giving them a phone that was updated in most key areas (CPU, ram, camera, battery)
- while still expensive by some standards, it's still more affordable than the flagship models and Apple has something they can push in other countries/markets where price is a bigger role
- obviously, a boost to their bottom line without incurring too much in retooling to produce, market, or advertise.
It remains to be seen whether Apple refreshes the SE in 1-3 years, or whether even better if it rejoins the yearly lineup. The 4.7" and 5.5" will always be the upper echelon phones, but the 4" phone market should not be ignored.
Let's hope Apple gets that message.
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You have no idea it's an invalid conclusion and you have posted nothing but feeeeellllinnnnnggggssss. I posted numbers and you have only posted invalid blather. Your feelings mean nothing so post numbers disproving it or admit you have no clue whether it is valid or not.
The 6s series dropped the same percentage as the se gained. That is fact, grow up and accept it and see that as a valid conclusion. Not to mention it only has 16% which is not the show stopper that many have claimed. I am basing my conclusion on facts at least, you have posted none. Whining is not a fact.
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Right. I have learned that from soldered in parts, two year old chips, 16gb storage, etc. They are about the bottom line, they certainly know what they are doing in that regard. Since when has it ever been about the customers? That's who I am, not a billion dollar company.
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BlandUsername
macrumors 6502
Motivation is to keep that portion of market that would not buy big. I would have stayed on my 5C indefinitely without a newer product in the same size. To assume the drop directly correlates to size of the SE market is not a good assumption.
Tthomas612
macrumors 65816
Hey this is working now on iOS 10 B4... I know this post is out of place, but I really just wanted to check and see if it would work now...
As far as the iPhone SE goes I believe it will be the entry level iPhone for this fall and possibly even next fall unless they do an update every March which I guess is also a possibility
As far as the iPhone SE goes I believe it will be the entry level iPhone for this fall and possibly even next fall unless they do an update every March which I guess is also a possibility