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How many butterfly keyboard Macs have you owned now?

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  • 0

    Votes: 39 27.5%

  • 1

    Votes: 46 32.4%

  • 2

    Votes: 31 21.8%

  • 3

    Votes: 14 9.9%

  • 4

    Votes: 5 3.5%

  • 5+

    Votes: 7 4.9%
  • Total voters
    142
jbud72 said:
Same. I have a 2019 13" MBP and I love typing on it. As long as it holds up, I have no issues with the typing experience and think I may actually type faster on it.
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2019 is probably the 'best' iteration of butterfly

jbud72 said:
I've had 3

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Though the 12'' is the most shallow, the Pro is the most annoying to type on.
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Can you expand on that? That's an interesting comment

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surprised by how many have managed to have none, and how many of you at least a couple but as I would've expected the majority its one. Also not surprised because lots of people don't upgrade their laptops often.

I like the butterfly on my 2016 but concerned about long term reliability from all that I've read, and I have a ASK for my 12.( second gen) and I Love that it has more travel than my Mac laptop

But I like the sturdiness and clickiness of the butterfly. Just wish it always had more travel.

I think my replacement keyboard for my 2016 NTB has a different feel than my first. It feels like it could be from a 2017 machine, the unofficial '2nd gen'

Supposed to get my 2020 Air tomorrow so I'll be excited to give the 'magic keyboard' a full rundown
 
thadoggfather said:
Can you expand on that? That's an interesting comment
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Think MR is acting funky, as that was my comment on the 2017 pro having an annoying kb.

The 12'' is quiet and shallow, but didn't bother me. I knew what I was getting with that machine and loved using it.

My 2017 nTB pro's keyboard is so damn loud. It's impossible to type quietly on that machine. Additionally, the wrist area isn't as comfortable as the sloped Air & 12'' - especially in the lap
 
Just one: the original Retina MacBook. I tried it for a solid month and never stopped hating the keyboard. I gave it to my wife and went back to my old MacBook Air.

To be fair, the keyboard is working fine several years later, but any time I try to type on I'm very glad I'm not using it regularly. She doesn't care either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Frankied22 said:
how did you like the switch? I'm thinking about jumping to a thinkpad from my 2015 13" MBP.
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Software wise I'd really prefer it ran OSX, but as a developer Windows 10 + WSL has come a long way toward making it easier to deal with. The keyboard is great, and makes it really hard to come back to anything other than a mechanical switch keyboard. There really isn't anything that I feel like I'm missing moving away from Apple hardware, but quite a few things (matte screen, an array of usable ports, and built-in cellular) that have made it my go to device when traveling. YMMV, though.
 
I've had three so far:

- 2015 12" MacBook
- 2016 12" MacBook
- 2016 13" nTB MBP

I used the 2015 MB for about 8 months and then the 2016 MB for 6 months before I got my 2016 nTB MBP in November 2016. I've been lucky as I didn't have any keyboard failures with any machine.

Perhaps I didn't use the two MacBooks for long enough for an issue to arise, but I've used my MBP daily for 3 years and 5 months now without any keyboard failures.
 
I have had 2 butterfly keyboard models in the household.
MacBook 12"
MacBook Pro 2017

Neither failed (but am very careful with my devices).
The 12" I could forgive for the size factor, but the MB Pro was unforgivable.
Both were awful to type on but the Pro was worse for some reason. It's for sale.
 
I own a 2016 MBP and a button just caved in on the bottom side today, still works just not if I click on the bottom of it. I am now one of you:p
 
Just the one, as the rest were all cancelled/returned for being basically junk, and that one yep it too failed in time. Beyond disappointing how Apple views the Mac today. I'd far rather Apple spun off the Mac as separate entity run by people with drive, innovation & passion, as opposed to managing margins on spreadsheet...

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I’ve used two butterfly Macs personally, a 15” 2016 and 2018 models. I really liked the keyboard. Now I’m on the 16”. The keyboard feels virtually identical to the butterfly one, maybe a bit more comfortable, but it occasionally misses keystrokes for me. All in all, I liked all Mac keyboards I’ve used so far. Butterfly is probably my favorite one (by a very slight margin).
 
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How does it feel the same? Butterfly and scissor? You’re the first I’ve heard to say that much less “virtually identical”
 
leman said:
I’ve used two butterfly Macs personally, a 15” 2016 and 2018 models. I really liked the keyboard. Now I’m on the 16”. The keyboard feels virtually identical to the butterfly one, maybe a bit more comfortable, but it occasionally misses keystrokes for me. All in all, I liked all Mac keyboards I’ve used so far. Butterfly is probably my favorite one (by a very slight margin).
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I'm not sure how they might feel "virtually identical" to me - but just shows - we're all different!
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thadoggfather said:
How does it feel the same? Butterfly and scissor? You’re the first I’ve heard to say that much less “virtually identical”
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Yeh interesting - I first I thought perhaps confused between butterfly keyboard between generations, but then said he had the 16" so that's not possible!
I guess it shows that user experience is not homogeneous if nothing else! ✌
 
2015 12" keyboard failed
2016 12" keyboard failed
2017 13"
2019 15" keyboard failed/replaced. Failed a second time.
 
2015 MB” 12” - Only kept a week
2016 MBP 13” NTB - Failed
2018 MBP 13” TB - Intermittent failures
2019 MBA - Has been pretty good, sometimes feels nicer than the 16” MBP, but not perfect
 
unoporfavor said:
I'm not sure how they might feel "virtually identical" to me - but just shows - we're all different!
Cheers
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I have a big gripe with the "old" scissor keys compared to the butterfly keyboard — and that is very wobbly and unstable keys. I literally can't work on a pre-2016 keyboard now, as the keys are too small and to mushy, my fingers hate it. The 16" model might hav returned to the scissor switches, but it retained the low profile of butterfly and large physical keys. They still wobble more compared to the butterfly ones, but it much less of an issue than with the smaller old keys. This is why I say that I don't feel much difference between 16" keyboard and the butterfly one. Sure, the tactile feedback is different as is the pressure required to activate the keys, but it's rather minor when compared to key stability itself.
 
leman said:
I have a big gripe with the "old" scissor keys compared to the butterfly keyboard — and that is very wobbly and unstable keys. I literally can't work on a pre-2016 keyboard now, as the keys are too small and to mushy, my fingers hate it. The 16" model might hav returned to the scissor switches, but it retained the low profile of butterfly and large physical keys. They still wobble more compared to the butterfly ones, but it much less of an issue than with the smaller old keys. This is why I say that I don't feel much difference between 16" keyboard and the butterfly one. Sure, the tactile feedback is different as is the pressure required to activate the keys, but it's rather minor when compared to key stability itself.
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Interesting!
I never found an issue with stability with any of the older non-butterfly MBP. Perhaps it depended on the size? - I always had 13".
I gladly would sacrifice a little stability for feel and travel though! I found the butterfly like smashing pebbles on glass. I can't wait for the 13/14" MBP to be released!
But each to their own and it's always good to get different perspective and view points! Thanks
 
unoporfavor said:
I never found an issue with stability with any of the older non-butterfly MBP. Perhaps it depended on the size? - I always had 13".
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No, the key size is identical between all Mac keyboards.

unoporfavor said:
I gladly would sacrifice a little stability for feel and travel though! I found the butterfly like smashing pebbles on glass.
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Which again shows that keyboards are a very individual thing. You can't make a keyboard to please them all. One needs too try to make something that most people will found comfortable and only few find revolting :) I think the current 16" keyboard so far is a good compromise that will feel good to almost anyone.
 
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