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I can see the playbook going the way of the xoom. Give it a few months after launch...

I hope not. As long as the other tablets keep innovating and being open it puts pressure on apple to loosen the shackles a little more.

Unfortunately the no subsidy model means people wanting a tablet will demand the absolute best and I don't know if the others can stand up to the iPad.
 
"There is a native email app coming"..... How anybody can except this excuse is crazy. Can you imagine if Apple released the iPad without an email client? There is no excuse for releasing a product in which they clearly admit, that its missing major features. This thing has disaster written all over it.

Let's not forgot that Apple released a phone (iPhone4) with a faulty antenna. On top of that Steve Jobs tells people that you are holding the phone wrong that is why you are having a problem. Come on.
 
I don't want to buy a device that would eventually be abandoned by the manufacturer, by means of no software updates and new features.
Most devices out there suffer from this problem.
On the contrary, iOS devices have their firmware constantly updated for several generations, bringing new features and functionality.
Just this fact alone is good enough incentive for me to stay with iOS devices.
 
Let's not forgot that Apple released a phone (iPhone4) with a faulty antenna. On top of that Steve Jobs tells people that you are holding the phone wrong that is why you are having a problem. Come on.

On my old Blackberry Curve, I could make the signal totally disappear by holding my hand over the bottom of the unit. My iPhone 4 has a far better signal.

I cant believe you are attempting to make an excuse for RIM releasing a tablet WITHOUT AN EMAIL CLIENT!!!! How can anybody consider purchasing this?
 
Enterprise users were the ones who asked for the blackberry bridge system. It works for bussiness users as many people could share one playbook. From a security standpoint brige is great.

Let me get this straight.......business users are behind RIM releasing a tablet without EMAIL, CALENDAR, and CONTACT apps. I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. RIM should have just delayed this thing. Everybody knows the old saying.......You only get one chance to make a first impression. I bet every review of the Playbook will mention all that is missing.
 
On my old Blackberry Curve, I could make the signal totally disappear by holding my hand over the bottom of the unit. My iPhone 4 has a far better signal.

I cant believe you are attempting to make an excuse for RIM releasing a tablet WITHOUT AN EMAIL CLIENT!!!! How can anybody consider purchasing this?

Can't believe that you can't grasp the fact that the Playbook's core audience probably already have BlackBerries, nor that you are completely ignoring the fact that they are already being hammered on BlackBerry message boards for taking this long to release. And you think they should hold up launch even longer? :rolleyes:
 
Let's wait and see if they actually get a product to market. I have a BB, but their is no way I would buy this POS. I actually hate the BB, but I don't have a choice for work yet.
 
I already have surplus of computing stuff that I already owned. mbp/mb/ipad 2/droid x

I don't think I need another tablet. What I need is nice iphone 5. Even that one, I am not super super lusting for it because lately I just feel like I have way too much on me.
 
How many months does it take to code a calendar or contacts app?

It's not coding the apps that's difficult. Hell, they already coded them, they just use the bridged blackberry's internet connection. The hard part is developing the secure connection between the tablet's new OS and RIM's servers. That connection has to be bulletproof if they want enterprise adoption.

PhoneI said:
I cant believe you are attempting to make an excuse for RIM releasing a tablet WITHOUT AN EMAIL CLIENT!!!! How can anybody consider purchasing this?

It HAS an email client, if you have a blackberry. Many potential playbook customers have blackberries, so this is a non-issue for them. What do you not get? This obviously isn't the tablet for you, just as a blackberry may not be the phone for you, but it might be perfect for others. In fact, the bridge is actually a big selling point for me over the iPad. I wish the iPad had something similar.

All this is coming from somebody with a blackberry and an iPhone. I like both phones a lot... they each do somethings well and they each could use improvement. I suspect the iPad vs. playbook will be similar. Either way though, competition is a good thing.
 
I am an iPad user and a blackberry user. Great combination for me.

I will try the Playbook out for the hell of it, IT friend is getting some, but there is no way that I will leave my iPad 2 for it. I wouldn't have left my iPad 1 for it either I'm sure.


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7" isn't a tablet. 10" iPad can display letter page PDF. 7" is just awkard size that's too big to fit in the pocket and too small to be useful.

Just see how well t he 7" Samsung tab 'works'

But when Apple comes out with a 7" iPad it will be revolutionary and a great size.
 
But when Apple comes out with a 7" iPad it will be revolutionary and a great size.

Hopefully Apple won't just stick the iPod Touch/iPhone iOS onto a 7" form factor, which is what Samsung did with the original Galaxy Tab. It's the same argument people say iPhone wasn't revolutionary because there had been other touch screen phones before iPhone. Sometimes it's how well you execute something, not just that you do something.

I'm interested in the Playbook because the QNX looks pretty decent and I've always been a big fan of webOS which RIM obviously copied. However I don't know if I'm willing to shell out $500 for it. But I'm definitely more interested in the Playbook than I'm am in the Xoom, which is about to get hammered by a large number of Honeycomb-based tablets with the same OS, the same screen size with the same resolution, and even the same processor.
 
I'll be getting a Playbook to test for our company here. I'm curious to see how it will stack up to my iPad 2.

I'm not so sure how I like the whole Blackberry Bridge thing, so that's one of the things I'll be testing heavily.
 
But when Apple comes out with a 7" iPad it will be revolutionary and a great size.

After reading newspapers and magazines on a 10 inch iPad 2, reviewing documents and being able to see full web pages without the need for a magnifying glass or constantly scrolling like with an iPhone, I can't ever see using a 7" tablet. If Apple came out with a 7" iPad, it wouldn't be revolutionary. It would be de-evolutionary.

In this case, Steve Jobs was right. If you want to use a tablet, 9" is the bare minimum. If you want something smaller, you might as well just stick with your phone. Apple won't release a 7" iPad in Steve Jobs lifetime.
 
It HAS an email client, if you have a blackberry.

Um, no it doesn't. Your blackberry has an email client. Your Playbook doesn't. It also doesn't have a Calendar app or a Contacts app.

If RIM thought these things were unimportant, they would not be promising to release these apps in the future. Stupid business decision if you ask me. Cant wait to see how many people return this thing.
 
Um, no it doesn't. Your blackberry has an email client. Your Playbook doesn't. It also doesn't have a Calendar app or a Contacts app.

If RIM thought these things were unimportant, they would not be promising to release these apps in the future. Stupid business decision if you ask me. Cant wait to see how many people return this thing.

All it does is retrieve the email from your Blackberry. The interface is already there for the calendar, email, and contacts. The problem is they need to port the backend to QNX (sending/retrieving/storing email, storing calendar events, storing contacts).

QNX is POSIX compliant but I don't think Blackberry OS is. Because of that they probably have to write the backend from scratch and can't just move it over from BB OS.


But on the original topic, I will be getting a Playbook in the next few weeks for "free" (not counting the development time of the app) because I submitted an app to BB App World. I'll still be keeping my iPad though.
 
The Playbook will out sell the original Galaxy Tab and Xoom.

BB users are looking forward to upgrading their 2.5" screens.
 
I have no desire to buy it and won't but I sure would like to play with it and see what it's all about. Same as when my boss got a Xoom. I'm an Apple guy but I enjoy seeing what other manufacturers come up with.
 
Nice thing about the Playbook and Transformer is flash.

Its not needed very often on the iPad but at times it is missed.
It's worth the cost of a 2nd tablet for flash to many.
 
In this case, Steve Jobs was right. If you want to use a tablet, 9" is the bare minimum. If you want something smaller, you might as well just stick with your phone. Apple won't release a 7" iPad in Steve Jobs lifetime.

I hear you. Job's has never said one thing and then done the complete opposite.
 
I predict the Playbook will be a big poop and will fail.

I think the Playbook will be successful if you don't define success as "becoming the mythical iPad killer." Nothing's going to compete with Apple, and the Playbook's biggest advantage over the Xoom, the Galaxy, and all the other buzzword-titled tablets is that the Playbook is targeting a specific niche rather than going head-to-head with the iPad. Assuming the thing works well, BlackBerry enthusiasts and a lot of business users will buy it. I'd probably have held out for the Playbook except the iPad had the apps that I needed and wanted.
 
In this case, Steve Jobs was right. If you want to use a tablet, 9" is the bare minimum. If you want something smaller, you might as well just stick with your phone. Apple won't release a 7" iPad in Steve Jobs lifetime.

So in this case we should see a 7" iPad very soon since Job is going to die very soon from his illness. Apple is in big trouble when that happens and I will be the first to sell me stock and short the stock.
 
The Blackberry Playbook will do well, it may not have the numbers of the iPad2 but it will do well. The iPad is a toy, that is rally all it is. It is not a business machine or a laptop replacement just a toy. I had the orginal iPad when it came out (i jumped on the band wagon) and then I sold it becuase I simply did not need a large ipod touch. I travel with a laptop and a kindle and the ipad is in no way an ebook reader, frankly it sucks at that.

There is a market for the Playbook. It is more for the business people not the teenie bopper. Apple has its fanboys just like RIM has its crackheads.

Time will tell.
 
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