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I definitely want to address a few things that bug me on these forums. This is coming from a tech fanboy who has extensively used Palm, Windows, Android, Blackberry, WebOS, and of course I am a huge fan of Apple. A true open minded person will use whatever he or she likes for their own needs and wants.

Hardware vs. OS

I think people get two things confused and same goes for computers, the manufacture of the phone does not always make the OS. This is a rare and nice case with Apple which is why their products are so successful and less buggy. The fact that YES most android based devices tend to feel plastic, is NOT googol's fault its samsung, htc, and so on. I have owned practically every high end Android device Sprint EVER offered, as well as the other OS's named above. For what they offered at the time I enjoyed them each in their own way until something better came. I personally like the light feel of the plastic Android based devices and to me the lighter the better. But that is what I like until thats all I knew. On the other hand recently having bought an iPhone 4s. I do like the high end feel of the glass and aluminum edges but they both have their pros and cons. The iPhone would definitely damage a lot faster if it drops but looks and feels way nicer in terms of build quality. Most android based phones do tend to feel more plastic but survive a drop way better.

Features:

Smartphones have been around LONG before Apple EVER got in the game as have touchscreens. There are tons of BASIC features for business/every day people that are plenty helpful and useful that were around in the Palm OS days from the late 90s such as having a CALL LOG last up to a year or more for ALL of your incoming/outgoing/missed calls. (how come OS manufacturers all miss the boat on this one?)
The fact that ONE OS comes out with a feature FIRST, and others copy it to enhance their product is NOT a bad thing at all in my eyes, I enjoy it cause it gives me the consumer much better options to chose from. I like that in iOS5 Apple copied Android's format of the drop down notifications, I like that ice cream sandwich took some of iOS5's great simplicity techniques and incorporated them. I like that BBM has been so successful that Apple felt the need to introduce iMessage. What is wrong with learning from your competition? it obviously WORKS is why they copy it or polish it with their own gems.

I feel that Android due to having so many phone manufactures SO FAR has definitely been fragmented and every phone i owned was a totally different android experience some good and some bad. I have always noticed an issue with lag in all the wrong places a phone should never lag, such as in the Phone app lol. They all start out nice and fast and after a few weeks or months of heavy use you can go to dial a call and nothing happens at all it just acts as if you did nothing. This has happened primarily on samsung and Motorola devices. A battery pull helps at times and other times you just have to wait. Depends on what is important to the user. It is pointless to have a huge screen phone with tons of nice features such as HDMI and DLNA, and 16gb built in memory and so on such as my last Galaxy S2 did, when the phone does not work when you want it to work. I would much rather have something work 99% of time without issues than have better features which don't always work. It didn't take me much time at all to adjust to the smaller iPhone screen. I would definitely love a bigger screen but this OS experience has been superb. I do however absolutely hate the following things on iPhone:

Limited Call log, no way to apply groups to your contacts natively without an app, The call screen doesn't show the phone number on a active call for a stored contact, sending contact info to anyone outside the iOS family they never get it cause its in apple format, when you group text/mass text it does not separate the message to each recipient it puts it in one message and when you get a reply the original message is not there, and tons of other Little things which make a big difference in my day to day user experience but these are things that are important to my every day use and to me they have been features that have been around since early 2000's so it boggles my mind that manufactures drag their feet on them.

Of course there are tons of amazing features from the ease of use, the transitions, the folders, the restore from backup or iCloud where it literally puts your ENTIRE phone from call log to text to numbers to folders all in the same place is PRICELESS, the cloud services are great altogether actually and so much more.

Truth be told NOTHING is 100% so find what works the BEST for you depending on WHAT you actually use it for. I am a power user and I cannot say I have ever found a phone to date that lasts as long as I would want it. I can never make it past half a day with ANY phone regardless of brand or OS. Cause I probably send 7,000 text a month, 10,000 mins a month of calls.

Without a world of choices, it would be totally boring if there was only 1 of everything in the marketplace cause it would never urge companies to be better or do better. As far as these forums to each other their own and what they use it for. Hope this helped.
 
I am just curious if any of you on here have actually used an Android phone extensively.

Yes, I've used a Droid X, and I also provide some measure of support for multiple android and iOS devices at work. I've also used Blackberry Torches and Storms.

My experience has been that for the Android and Blackberry devices, it's always a a bit of an ordeal to get done what needs to be done. Our work email is Zimbra based, which means that a special VMWare Zimbra app has to be installed and toyed around with. How well it works and what level of functionality is available varies from device to device.

Same is true of the Blackberries, only it's even worse and involves a desktop app as well.

On the other hand, the iOS devices all "just work," every time. No apps to install, nothing to tweak. The devices see the server as an Exchange server, and calendar appointments and emails are all pushed just fine.

I don’t have any of these “Android problems” like lagginess, bad battery life, etc. on my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate that many people on here use to hate on Android. It is actually very nice, it’s just not as polished as iOS but it is still a good operating system.:)

Some have issues, some don't. Same is true of iPhone users.

At the end of the day, after using Android and using an iPhone, iOS does what I need in a more fluid and consistent fashion. I could use an Android phone if I was told I had to. I would just know that there's something out there that works better for me.

Just like if I HAD to use Windows, I could. But what I do is just easier to do on a *nix environment, so I use linux and OS X instead.
 
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I got my first Android phone last December. It was the myTouch 4G on T-Mobile. It was a huge upgrade from my BlackBerry Curve 8900. Soon after using it, I found it to lag and I was rebooting it everyday. I then went back to my BB for a short time until the Samsung Galaxy S 4G hit T-Mobile. That was an even worse experience and viewing web pages on that phone was a living nightmare. The lag was so bad, I ended up taking it back 2 days later. I went back to the myTouch 4G again but only to get a defective unit. Waited for the HTC Sensation 4G.

At first I really liked the HTC Sensation but since the Sense 3.0 software was new, I experienced a lot of bugs. The wifi signal almost always dropped if you held the phone like you're suppose to. Every time I pressed the button it would creak. I ended up going through 3 Sensations before I said bye bye to Android for good.

The Android phones I had were not bad, just unpolished. The experience didn't feel smooth like iOS does. Honestly, I really like the Galaxy S II phones and Galaxy Nexus but I will never go back to an Android phone. I don't care how many processors are running in that thing, it still laggs and feels unpolished.

Now if the Galaxy Nexus ran iOS, that'd be another story. :D
 
yes I have messed with them in stores. it is laggy, and honestly I just can't get over the cheap plastic toy like feel they have.

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Not all Android phones are cheap and plastic. The $50 android phones might not have iPhone build quality, but it’s not supposed to. It was never meant to compete with the iPhone. You can’t compare the bargain bin Android phones to an iPhone.

Many HTC phones are made of aluminum, and so is the back piece of my Captivate. It does have some plastic, but it certainly does not feel cheap.
 
Used an Evo for a year, pretty good for an android phone and it was tough transitioning to a smaller screen. Now have an Evo Design 4G as a work phone. Loving it. HTC Sense takes the crappiness out of Android IMO
 
I'm using a Droid X right now. The OS has been generally pretty good, but the recent Gingerbread update has screwed up so much - apps randomly crash, the phone turns itself on(literally.. I turn the phone off and a few minutes later it's back on) , and with each new update Verizon has piled on more bloatware.

The Android ecosystem is seriously lacking. It's missing apps that the iOS app store has, and the ones that it does have are missing features available on the iOS version.

I'm also not a fan of the hardware, although some of the more recent Samsung ones look solid. My Droid X, which I've had for only a year, is junk. The cheap rubberized plastic is scuffed to hell from normal use (I've never even dropped it), I've had to replace the battery cover because the last one kept falling out - the new one is still flimsy, and the hard buttons are barely responsive anymore and a couple of the LED backlights burnt out. My 2nd gen iPod Touch is in better shape.

I'm sure some of the newer Androids are good; but after being burned with the X, I'm going to give the iphone a shot.
 
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Copycat maybe, but horrible depends on which handset you are referring to. The Galaxy Nexus is anything but horrible...

It's still a ****** OS with ****** apps. And yes, I've used an Android phone before, too. And a Blackberry, and a Windows Phone 7.

Care to share how much time you've spent using these "****" apps on the Galaxy Nexus running ICS?
 
I remain unconvinced that iPhone users who migrate to the Android platform actually take the time to learn what Android is. How to work with it, and what to do, rather than immediately rooting, or changing things around before they know what they are doing. That's not a criticism, just an observation based on those around me at work.

The company is quite large, and every employee I know that has great success and enjoyment out of Android are always the ones that bought into the platform and took the time to learn it. The ones that dislike Android, have usually given up in a matter of hours or days, and therefore cheated themselves out of making an informed decision.

Much like one would learn a Mac if switching from a PC. Yes both are computers but the differences in the OS is what makes each of them unique and attracts their various followers.

The Android platform is subject to more myths, outright lack of understanding, and deceptive negative dialog that makes it an underdog from the get go. No matter what we discuss if one does not approach it with a positive attitude, a willingness to educate themselves, then it's doomed no matter how good it may be.

To compare iPhones to Android phones is to cheat yourself before you've even started.

I am _NOT_ saying Android is the best, or superior. I'm simply saying that without being given a chance you cannot make an informed decision.

Personally I have great fun with both iOS and Android. I've learned a lot and that's what appeals to me.
 
Not all Android phones are cheap and plastic. The $50 android phones might not have iPhone build quality, but it’s not supposed to. It was never meant to compete with the iPhone. You can’t compare the bargain bin Android phones to an iPhone.

Many HTC phones are made of aluminum, and so is the back piece of my Captivate. It does have some plastic, but it certainly does not feel cheap.

I was mainly talking about the newer samsung phones, very cheap feeling
 
I've owned two - the Motorola Droid and the HTC Thunderbolt. I too am amazed at how many people play with them at Best Buy for 3 minutes and declare them laggy and unusable. I found them very responsive and fun to use. I do have to say though the iOS experience is a lot more polished.

I am still saving my pennies to buy an unlocked Galaxy Nexus though... :D

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That I have to agree with. The Thunderbolt had the WORST battery when 4G was turned on. It lasted me 4 hours. When I turned off 4G it would last me two days. That phone was not ready for the 4G prime time and is a great indication of why Apple has waited so long to get into that game...

First that isnt near enough time to determine anything and second, those phones at Best Buy have been messed with by idiot people that just jack them up and have many things running and load them up with crap.
I went there today and messed with a Galaxy viewer? I think thats what it was called. 5" screen. Looked like a big phone but i guess it is a big iPod. It was very responsive and quick. My guess is it runs Gingerbread.
 
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You don't have to use an Android to know that it's a horrible copycat of a phone.

Just look at what Apple's lawsuit claiming that "Samsung" copied Apple. Really, we all know it's Google who's the copycat.

And because Android is open source, it behaves differently on every device. So, different phones that run "Android" run it differently, sometimes, in the case of the Amazon tablet, with a whole new UI. Apple knows that open sourced software is not the way to go for mobile devices.

From Eric Schmidt

Apple litigates, Google Innovates as evidenced by the Nexus Prime and Android 4.0.

Get your info right next time!
 
I've used a couple only in stores, just not extensively. But while I used them in the store I felt that they were somewhat laggy and the OS is inconsistent across multiple devices since they all seem to be running a different version of Android. I'm hoping to get to play with a Galaxy Nexus when it is released. From what I've seen it looks like the first complete Android device in my opinion.


From Eric Schmidt

Apple litigates, Google Innovates as evidenced by the Nexus Prime and Android 4.0.

Get your info right next time!
I don't believe many of these touchscreen phones would exist if it weren't for the iPhone. What did we have before the iPhone, Blackberry's and the Razr that were widely available?
 
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I had the Droid 1 and the Droid X. I like the Droid 1, never gave me any problems, but had a lot of problems with the X such as really laggy, slow, lock ups, reboots, poor battery life. My iPhone 4S fixed all that.
 
Had an atrix from march to July. By the time July came, I couldn't wait to get rid of it, hated the android experience.
 
From Eric Schmidt

Apple litigates, Google Innovates as evidenced by the Nexus Prime and Android 4.0.

Get your info right next time!

really! Apple litigates to protect their property.

yup, google innovates well with that donkeyed up os to run on cheap plastic phones.

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Ive had both a Samsung Vibrant and a HTC Incredible. There ok phones but after using an iPhone I won't go back :)
 
I had the Evo for over a year. I rooted it and I loved it. Never had a problem with it. I just always wanted to try a IPhone , I love it too .
 
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