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You would be surprised to know that ps3 has less memory than your iPad ...

I think iPad 5 will be 1 Gb as iPad 5 and iPhone 5s.
We're going to see 2 Gb maybe in the next generation next year.

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Negative, my values are related at a fully working iPhone 5 and iPad 4, with 3 email configured ...

Would you be able to give me a rough answer to this question; if a ps3 was ported to iOS would RAM be a problem (as in how much RAM does a current Gen game take up[something like deus ex or gta v])?
 
The PS3 only has 256 MB system and 256 MB video for memory according to Wikipedia so I would guess games would take a little less then the total for the most part.
 
The PS3 only has 256 MB system and 256 MB video for memory according to Wikipedia so I would guess games would take a little less then the total for the most part.

Thanks. Just don't want to be disappointed i the iPad 5 has 1Gb of RAM...
 
I wouldn't worry yourself
You seem to be over analyzing it

You a probably right there!

I have just been adding it up that the iPad 5 will overtake the PS3 in terms of graphics (If the iPad 5 gets the same jump graphically as the iPhone 5S got (267% increase in graphics [28.8 to 76.8]) then the iPad 5 should perform at 205 Gflops!!! That overtakes the PS3 with enough spare room for it to more powerful graphically than a PS3 and 2 PS Vita's put together[PS Vita being 7.2Gflops])). A lot of brackets; it know :)

I just don't want all that power then noting to show for it because iOS 7 takes up to more of the 1Gb stick of RAM.
 
I think ram is one of those things people get hung up about because of the bad old days of windows
Much like defragmenting hard drives
OS's have come a long way
 
I think ram is one of those things people get hung up about because of the bad old days of windows
Much like defragmenting hard drives
OS's have come a long way

Yeah, it's happened to me too. Right now I am running Windows XP on my PC and I spend the good part of 3 whole days reinstalling the OS, finding all the drivers, and installing needs like Chrome, RocketDock, and Windows themes) to finally have the OS and all the themes/docks run at around 200Mb of RAM :) I defrag every week and it now takes 9 seconds :) Boot up time 30 seconds and I have it looking just like Mountain Lion with themes. Plus all programs launch as fast as they do on my iMac :) And the best part is is the specs of my Netbook is a dual core Intel Atom 1.66Ghz with 1Gb of RAM :)
 
How much free ram do you have in iOS 7? Post bellow the amount of free RAM you have and what device you are running on. Also state what you are using to determine your free RAM (the app name; eg- battery saver, battery doctor...).

I have 380Mb of free RAM on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.0.2.

Why would you post this thread? You're now going to make some users obsess over their free memory even though it has ZERO impact on the functionality of their devices.
 
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If you really need to know, a fresh reboot gives me about 600-620 Mb of free RAM. I use SysStats Lite.

NB. I don't free my RAM. I just let iOS runs how it wants. I'm more interested in CPU load averages.

Cheers :D
 
Personally I think the more free ram the better. I can't stress enough how many times I've had apps crash and later a log came up that said low memory. On an iPhone 5 with iOS 6.1.4 this is happening unusually often.

In terms of iOS 7, I had a chance to play around with it before the downgrade window closed. My ram went from 500mb available prior to the upgrade with no apps open after some usage, to 380mb with no apps often with no usage.

Something else to take note of is when you upgrade to iOS 7 your storage space decreases by .15. I had screenshots of before and after the upgrade of the space available.

I have a 16GB model and it shows 13.5GB capacity. You would probably see 13.35 on your iPhones. Even though it's rather small decrease its a decrease none the less.
 
Personally I think the more free ram the better. I can't stress enough how many times I've had apps crash and later a log came up that said low memory. On an iPhone 5 with iOS 6.1.4 this is happening unusually often.

In terms of iOS 7, I had a chance to play around with it before the downgrade window closed. My ram went from 500mb available prior to the upgrade with no apps open after some usage, to 380mb with no apps often with no usage.

Something else to take note of is when you upgrade to iOS 7 your storage space decreases by .15. I had screenshots of before and after the upgrade of the space available.

I have a 16GB model and it shows 13.5GB capacity. You would probably see 13.35 on your iPhones. Even though it's rather small decrease its a decrease none the less.

The low memory errors was the reason I posted this thread. Thanks for the input :)

I have found 16 Gb to not be enough space so I normally buy 32gb idevices but I will be buying a 64 Gb iPad 5 as I am buying it for games and the types if games I play range from 1.5Gb to 2.8Gb each :)

Remember that the OS will eat up free RAM as it will increase system performance. I don't think now is the time to worry; it is really the third main OS you put in that you are always low on RAM. Look at the iPad 1 on iOS 5 or a 4th Gen iPod on iOS (I get around 60mb free, 80-90 if I'm lucky). I just feel that if we have these problems, why not give the iPad 5 2Gb of RAM. The last 2 iPads had 1Gb so it is time for an upgrade!
 
You're welcome! We all come onto this forum to discuss our concerns and opinions and as such its my personal view. I never use the last 6 gigs of free space but it's a peace of mind that if I want to put a rather large movie on my iPhone I can do so. 16GB is enough for some people.
 
Would you be able to give me a rough answer to this question; if a ps3 was ported to iOS would RAM be a problem (as in how much RAM does a current Gen game take up[something like deus ex or gta v])?

No, the ram would not be a problem.
Computational power, especially gpu, are quite different between a game console and a smartphone ....
The gap is reducing generation after generation (Xbox 360 and ps3 are quite old), but new incoming consoles are regaining distance ...
 
No, the ram would not be a problem.
Computational power, especially gpu, are quite different between a game console and a smartphone ....
The gap is reducing generation after generation (Xbox 360 and ps3 are quite old), but new incoming consoles are regaining distance ...

RAM was the only factor I was worried about. I know the next gen consoles will destroy only tablet but I am very sure that the iPad 5 will overtake current gen (looking at just over 200Gflops comapired to Ps3's 174 for example). I was only worried that we would have this power (to allow for higher res textures and more one screen) but not able to usilise it because there is not enough free ram on the device.

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You're welcome! We all come onto this forum to discuss our concerns and opinions and as such its my personal view. I never use the last 6 gigs of free space but it's a peace of mind that if I want to put a rather large movie on my iPhone I can do so. 16GB is enough for some people.

Totally agree, I wasn't saying that it wasn't. It your right to keep that space left free, people that use there phone's backing storage to the last megabite are silly as no iOS update will allow its way onto a device that there is not enough room. When you upgrade to a new iOS (iOS 7 for example); the OS is downloaded taking up a good few Gb which adds to the used space. It is like having 2 OS's on the device when updating until the new OS has unpacked itself and over written the old one.

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No, the ram would not be a problem.
Computational power, especially gpu, are quite different between a game console and a smartphone ....
The gap is reducing generation after generation (Xbox 360 and ps3 are quite old), but new incoming consoles are regaining distance ...

The overall GPU performce on an iPad 4 is 76.8 Gflops. A current PS3 is 174Gflops. If the iPad 5 gets the same GPU jump as the iPhone 5S got from the 5 (2.67X as it was from 28.8 to 76.8), then the iPad 5 should perfrom around 205 Gflops. So just beating a PS3.

And just to let you know the iPhone 5S uses a PowerVR G6430 GPU. As the iPads have always had a more powerful GPU ( for the higher display), there is only one GPU higher; the G6630. It is quoted to be able to perfrom upto over 1Tflop. GPU is no longer a problem.

It was really just a waiting game for apple to move to IT's PowerVR Series 6 GPU's.
 
How much free RAM do you have on iOS7

You forget the fact that the ps3 has a graphics and simulation capable cell processor with 230 gigaflops of power, 10 3.2 ghz cpu cores, of wich 1 is disabled, 2 are 64 bit and 7 are 128 bit high spec gaming processors

Plus the fact that running bare-metal gpu like a ps3 is 4 to 5 times faster than on windows, os x, android or ios wich all use cpu and performance hogging drivers

Tldr: it is impossible for an iphone 5s, 6, ipad 5, 6 to reach ps3 graphics and simulation, let alone exclusive titles
 
You forget the fact that the ps3 has a graphics and simulation capable cell processor with 230 gigaflops of power, 10 3.2 ghz cpu cores, of wich 1 is disabled, 2 are 64 bit and 7 are 128 bit high spec gaming processors

Plus the fact that running bare-metal gpu like a ps3 is 4 to 5 times faster than on windows, os x, android or ios wich all use cpu and performance hogging drivers

Tldr: it is impossible for an iphone 5s, 6, ipad 5, 6 to reach ps3 graphics and simulation, let alone exclusive titles

But you also have to remember through optimisation with that kind of power, we can get similar results. And remember that an iOS game would be played on a 9.7'' max meaning textures could be lowered and not have a noticeable affect on the graphics. I'm saying that the iPad 5 could perform graphics that are close to console level on a handheld.

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No, you would gain 10 minutes of extra battery life per day for every gigabyte of free ram

Gain? I was sure you would loose.
 
iPhone 4S running iOS 7.0.2 after a reboot with no apps running.

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Get an app running like tapatalk currently and wiping around iOS then things get obnoxious.

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At this point (and it just happened) apps like tapatalk will close and I'll lose everything I was typing. I find this so annoying I'm going to wait till the iPhone has more RAM before upgrading just to future proof a little more.
 
iPhone 4S running iOS 7.0.2 after a reboot with no apps running.

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Get an app running like tapatalk currently and wiping around iOS then things get obnoxious.

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At this point (and it just happened) apps like tapatalk will close and I'll lose everything I was typing. I find this so annoying I'm going to wait till the iPhone has more RAM before upgrading just to future proof a little more.

It is looking like that the iPhone 4S on iOS 7 is like the iPod Touch 4 with iOS 6. I can only imagine what iPhone 4 users are experiencing...

Do you feel the iPad 5 will get 2Gb of RAM. The previous 2 iPads have had the same and I think it's time for an upgrade. Plus the iPads always get the RAM upgrades before iPhones.
 
It is looking like that the iPhone 4S on iOS 7 is like the iPod Touch 4 with iOS 6. I can only imagine what iPhone 4 users are experiencing...

Do you feel the iPad 5 will get 2Gb of RAM. The previous 2 iPads have had the same and I think it's time for an upgrade. Plus the iPads always get the RAM upgrades before iPhones.

Ya, iOS 7 uses more RAM leaving less for apps which in my opinion is much more important then wasting it on the OS for trendy animations and transparent effects.
 
Ya, iOS 7 uses more RAM leaving less for apps which in my opinion is much more important then wasting it on the OS for trendy animations and transparent effects.

Totally agree. Most heavy apps use around 100-200mb of ram so you should be fine for now, but I would start saving for an upgrade if I were you. The 5S appears to be more future proof (apart from the 1Gb of RAM) than any other iPhone since.

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Ya, iOS 7 uses more RAM leaving less for apps which in my opinion is much more important then wasting it on the OS for trendy animations and transparent effects.

My iPod has around 60mb free RAM so don't worry that much. Most apps run just fine. Safari is probably the only thing that crashes. So your free RAM is not too bad. But it is very common for the OS to leave me with one 3mb free RAM after a reboot or with no program's open.
 
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