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In my country, no one uses much apples or googles maps app... For turn by turn navigation software we have specific and accurate apps, for directions or places, well we have the same app for that. Almost no one uses apple or google maps, and then there is the part that it needs an active Internet connection ....
In Israel we use waze for turn by turn and usually google maps for walking navigation.
 
I know what the current state is. But Apple should've never released software other than when it would be able to fully rely on users. I don't see why that can't be possible. Sure, in the beginning there will be a few 14 year old kids who join together with 3 other kids to put in some dumb data. That will be fixed in no time by other users. And there are other ways to think of to counter that.
If they don't have a good system and they have to rely on old tom-tom (in my town it's the old tom-tom data), why on earth release it?

For the record, I like the interface very much so I use it all the time for navigation in my car. But not after checking with google maps if its the correct route.

Are you kidding me?

Do you have ANY idea what it costs to collect GI yourself? Apple wouldn't sell data they collected to anyone else. It easily swallows billions. Companies who collect GI recoup that cost through selling it. Even Google buys in data and sells it. The only fully non commercial dataset is OpenStreetMap. That relies entirely on volunteers.

Apple isn't going to to burden its users with crowdsourcing. Most won't want to do it.
 
Are you kidding me?

Do you have ANY idea what it costs to collect GI yourself? Apple wouldn't sell data they collected to anyone else. It easily swallows billions. Companies who collect GI recoup that cost through selling it. Even Google buys in data and sells it. The only fully non commercial dataset is OpenStreetMap. That relies entirely on volunteers.

Apple isn't going to to burden its users with crowdsourcing. Most won't want to do it.

No, I did not have any idea :cool:.

Most people don't have to. You only need like 5 persons to say a McDonalds is on that corner, not 5 million.
 
No, I did not have any idea :cool:.

Most people don't have to. You only need like 5 persons to say a McDonalds is on that corner, not 5 million.

Agreed. Indeed one could give the option of providing a picture when reporting an POI error in Maps, provided it had reasonable GPS and compass information attached to the picture.

At any rate, in the other thread in which a poll about Maps is shown (see my post #27 above), more people outside the US believe that maps is poor (36%) than those who think it is great. 20% of the people who responded about their experience in the US said maps was poor. While the poll is hardly representative of the general population, the number of respondents is approaching 400 people so at least it reflects the feelings of many MR readers.

I suspect that the dissatisfaction with Maps won't change until Apple starts acting on the feedback its customers are providing about POI errors.
 
It has been getting better, but why on earth does it STILL not have the Smithsonian Metro Station in DC?! All of the other metro stations show up just fine except for the 1 that most tourists will want to use....
 
It has been getting better, but why on earth does it STILL not have the Smithsonian Metro Station in DC?! All of the other metro stations show up just fine except for the 1 that most tourists will want to use....

That is weird that it isn't shown as a reference point on Maps (especially considering the others are), but since Apple uses 3rd party apps for now, it wouldn't matter for anyone wanting actual directions utilizing mass transit.

I dropped a pin near there and asked for transit directions utilizing HopStop and it took me right to that station.

Either way, I sent a correction to Apple...
 
I live in Sydney Australia and have never had any issues with Apple map. If anything the new version seems more detailed.
 
That is weird that it isn't shown as a reference point on Maps (especially considering the others are), but since Apple uses 3rd party apps for now, it wouldn't matter for anyone wanting actual directions utilizing mass transit.

I dropped a pin near there and asked for transit directions utilizing HopStop and it took me right to that station.

Either way, I sent a correction to Apple...

Ya, the 3rd party apps still work, but a lot of people look at Maps just to find the nearest metro.

I have submitted the correction multiple times. Hopefully they add it soon.
 
I live in Sydney Australia and have never had any issues with Apple map. If anything the new version seems more detailed.
Brisbane, Australia here and only had one error in its lifetime (a right turn I wasn't allowed to take). Compared to Google Maps errors I've had here like thinking I could go against traffic out off a highway ramp that's pretty benign.
 
Google maps is usually my default choice, but lately Apple Maps has been more accurate and has found more locations!
 
Apple Map has not improved just yet....because it still LACKS features we all still depend on for example bus...It is like Apple is forcing me to install Bus app even I am short with free space. :apple:
 
It's not improving because they are not making corrections. I have sent in 3 feedbacks over the last 4-5 months about an incorrect location of a gas station. They have yet to correct it. And this is not in some obscure location. It's in Bethesda, MD. This is something Google would have fixed in less than 2 weeks (it's already correct in Google Maps btw). If they're not correcting results, what are they exactly doing?
 
It's not improving because they are not making corrections. I have sent in 3 feedbacks over the last 4-5 months about an incorrect location of a gas station. They have yet to correct it. And this is not in some obscure location. It's in Bethesda, MD. This is something Google would have fixed in less than 2 weeks (it's already correct in Google Maps btw). If they're not correcting results, what are they exactly doing?

So, are you basing that on your one gas station correction?

Taking a look at the entire offering in my area from general use and using it on a regular basis, I would say the opposite...it has improved 1000% since first intrduction. Parsing logic is the best part in my opinion...and I have seen significant improvement in poi additions in my area and rarely have issues during regular use in finding stuff. And recently, for me, it has been better than Google (and more up to date from a street/directions standpoint).

The obvious issues remain as number of and poi's and correctness in some cases as well as the parsing can still be improved...but some of the parsing issues are sometimes directly related to the lack of poi info...

If you keep looking for the one or two same issues it has had since the beginning like your gas station and see it isn't correct, doesn't mean that there aren't 1,000 corrections that have taken place.

I search for everything, even places I know, just to see how often it works, and it is WAY better.
 
So, are you basing that on your one gas station correction?

Taking a look at the entire offering in my area from general use and using it on a regular basis, I would say the opposite...it has improved 1000% since first intrduction. Parsing logic is the best part in my opinion...and I have seen significant improvement in poi additions in my area and rarely have issues during regular use in finding stuff. And recently, for me, it has been better than Google (and more up to date from a street/directions standpoint).

The obvious issues remain as number of and poi's and correctness in some cases as well as the parsing can still be improved...but some of the parsing issues are sometimes directly related to the lack of poi info...

If you keep looking for the one or two same issues it has had since the beginning like your gas station and see it isn't correct, doesn't mean that there aren't 1,000 corrections that have taken place.

I search for everything, even places I know, just to see how often it works, and it is WAY better.

I'm basing it on their outright refusal to correct an error. They list a gas station where there is not one. In fact, there was never a gas station there. It's a Cadillac dealership. And my opinion is based on other error.

They also list a Papa John's where one doesn't exist. That one I tried to get corrected over 16 months ago. No dice.

And, the biggy. I work for one of the biggest govt agencies in the US. Is it's location listed/labelled on Apple Maps? No. I guess it doesn't exist. Look across the street from the National Naval Medical Center. What's there? Looks like a residential neighborhood not a huge campus.
 
They were never that bad for me initially and i'm not exactly in a big city in the UK and i've used them a number of times for sat nav turn by turn directions in a lot of other places and yet to have any sort of issue.
 
As a city dweller who doesn't have a car the lack of integrated public transport directions stops me looking any further at the actual quality of the mapping. Until public transport routing is added Apple Maps will continue to live in my "Unused" apps folder and Google Maps keep its place at the top level of my home screen.
 
Your fellow citzens from Australia would post here to agree with you, but they are still stranded in the middle of the desert.

But yeah, I'm sure Apple's Maps is perfect :rolleyes:

Next time do a bit of reading before attacking someone. The article was about a deserted location in Victoria. In Sydney, Australian's biggest city, there has been no issues. So yes Apple map has been perfect for us.

Now keep rolling your eyes. :rolleyes:
 
Next time do a bit of reading before attacking someone. The article was about a deserted location in Victoria. In Sydney, Australian's biggest city, there has been no issues. So yes Apple map has been perfect for us.

Now keep rolling your eyes. :rolleyes:

Apple Maps isnt the first sat nav to have caused an issue either....seen numerous reports of drivers ending up in lakes or in fields due to dodgy instructions from a Sat Nav and the driver not using their common sense to realise something isnt quite right!!
 
Apple Maps isnt the first sat nav to have caused an issue either....seen numerous reports of drivers ending up in lakes or in fields due to dodgy instructions from a Sat Nav and the driver not using their common sense to realise something isnt quite right!!

Yeah but of course only Apple maps suck ;)
 
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