I was surprised when a friend asked me one time "Why do you save?" when I don't have any loans to pay off. I was like "because I want to have money in the bank and have financial security and prepare for the future". She seemed kinda baffled that all my money wasn't already accounted for in monthly bills and spending on "stuff".
Most people live above their means regardless of income level.
One key to becoming financially independent is to live below your means.
Come live in the epicenter of NYC, L.A., London or Tokyo and let's see how much savings you'll have then
I live in Japan near Tokyo. Everything is definitely expensive.
Does anyone have an online savings account? I want to get one with E-Trade but I don't have any credit...
I have one with HSBC. Works well.
not enough
Too true for most folks me thinks.
I have nothing to worry about it. My parents are saving my money whenever I have some in my pocket I just give it to them and they put it in a bank. I'm very trustworthy of my parents especially my dad who keeps the money very safe and my mom kind of lacks it lol.
You need to learn how to do this. And with parents like this, they should be able to teach and mentor you well.
I think the point made was that if YOU do it, you learn how to do it, how banking works, and develop the responsibility to save money without the involvement of your parents.
Exactly.
I've got an HSBC account; I've been very happy with it for the last 2+ years, except for the interest rate going down, but that is happening to everyone.
Same here. Currently at 3%
I was just thinking about some of the comments on this thread. I feel like some people consider "saving for something" as the same as "saving" money. Just from reading the OP first comment, he said he was "saving, maybe fore a cinema display". To me, that is not saving for the fact of being financially secure. I have separate savings that I'm not allowed to tough, but if I want something, like a new computer, then I would have to set aside a completely separate amount.
Agree. Savings is something that you don't ever touch.
Does anyone have an ING direct orange savings account? I'm looking into that too. How simple is the process of applying and do I have to have credit? Can I sign up if I'm only 17? and I plan on depositing $800 a month for 3 years. Will I earn alot of interest at 3.25% ?
If you put away $800 per month for 3 years at 3.25% you will have $30,289.66 in your account.
So you will have put in $28,800 into your account (36 x 800) and earned $1,489.66 (30,289.66 - 28,000).
Note, the amount earned could be reduced by taxes depending on your situation.
Assuming that the rate stayed at 3.25% and you wanted to maintain your principle (30,289.66), you would draw roughly $81.81 per month.
Excellent post
Xfujinon. Americans really do need to learn to save their money and start acting their
wage
True.
So many live way above their means.
saving? huh - whats that then?
seriously none - and I am ashamed of myself at 34.
I have made it a new rule to save from day one in my new job (as you never know whats coming around the next corner)
Suggest trying a payroll deduction type system for your savings.
You will not miss it.
Try to make your goal 20-25% of your gross pay. Start out at 1% or higher if possible. Then every 3-6 months increase the percentage until you get to 25%
I am working two jobs already. I also have a mortage and a car payment.
And your point is?
It's individuals like you who drive up interest rates and cause other problems.
Credit card comapnys gotta share some of the blame you know.
No they don't.
It's your fault plain and simple. You need to admit that ... and fix it. Otherwise, after you declare bankruptcy you will be in the same situation in the future.
I'll be forced to pay everything in cash for a few years.
I wish that folks like you who declare bankruptcy because of self induced charges would never be allow to get credit again for anything be it a mortgage, car loan, student loan, etc.
Maybe this time I'll learn my lesson about credit cards. I did the same thing back in 1997 with allot less debt and a crappy car with too many miles and $19,000 owed on it.
Obviously you haven't. And probably will not.
Folks like you who run up credit bills and then declare bankruptcy are a drain on society.
No, credit card companies don't share the blame. Just because you have a high limit doesn't mean you have to use it. I have a Visa with a $10,000 limit and another one with a $4,000 limit. You know how much credit card debt I have? None. Not a single penny. Chase probably hates me because I rack up rewards points and haven't given them a dime in finance charges. It's called personal responsibility.
Agree.
YOU are the reason why the world is in an economic melt down.
Charge charge charge.
Racking up debt that is 3-5x your annual income.
People buying a 500k house when they make 30k.
Everything is bought on credit.
Bestbuy wasn't going to send their thugs afer you if you didn't max your card out every month.
Agree.
yikes, im scared to get a credit card when i turn 18 now. i'll probably just get a gas card to build credit.
Credit cards are fantastic provided that you use them wisely.
BTW, suggest that you do not get a gas card. Instead get a Visa/MC or AMEX card. Then use your credit wisely.
There's nothing wrong with a credit card if you have some common sense.
Agree.
which is why i think an IQ test and a test of a person's general responsibility should be part of every credit card application.
Interesting idea.
people who think "oh, i will just declare bankruptcy" as they charge and charge and charge should be shot.
Agree, but disagree on being shot.
Rather, they should have to serve on a chain gang and do real work to pay off their debt.
I have no money saved, but I don't have any debt, which I suppose still puts me ahead of a lot of people.
Surprisingly, you are ahead of a lot of people.
Not having debt is rare these days.
Of course there is different kind of debt. Some debts are good. But credit card debt is bad with very rare exceptions.
That's why I just use a debit card, I know myself well enough to know that if I had a credit card I would use it when I don't have the funds for it.
I shy away from debit cards since they are directly connected to your checking/savings account.
Rather I use a credit card then pay it off at the end of the month. More secure than a debit card. Plus credit cards carry protection that debit cards to do not for purchases.