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No, I think a microwave is not a computer. The iPad is a computer.

All of these silly messages are beside the point. We should know how much RAM the iPad will have, so how much RAM is in it??

Anyone?

Why should you?

If you cant move past the old way of thinking about technology products (how many megagiga turbo pixels does it have!!!!!) you are going to be pretty miserable buying any of the new Apple 'devices'.

Apple is not selling the iPad as a computer. They are selling it as a solution to a series of problems. It is a sealed box that performs various functions. Not a computer. Not a computer. Not a computer. Not a computer. Not a computer.
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I don't see where "knowing" or "not knowing" has any relevance to me at all
It isn't upgradeable and is apparently the same across all models
I don't expect to worry whether I have enough RAM to run a certain app

I don't see this as some grand conspiracy by Apple to hide or suppress information
Not do I see it as an oversight on their part in listing the specs
I believe the vast majority of consumers see it as irrelevant

If your decision on whether to buy an iPad is dependent on your knowing the amount of RAM, then perhaps the iPad is not for you... maybe a netbook is a better choice
 
I don't see where "knowing" or "not knowing" has any relevance to me at all
It isn't upgradeable and is apparently the same across all models
I don't expect to worry whether I have enough RAM to run a certain app

I don't see this as some grand conspiracy by Apple to hide or suppress information
Not do I see it as an oversight on their part in listing the specs
I believe the vast majority of consumers see it as irrelevant

If your decision on whether to buy an iPad is dependent on your knowing the amount of RAM, then perhaps the iPad is not for you... maybe a netbook is a better choice

The iPhone did not have its RAM increased until the release of the iPhone 3GS, and that's what was the deciding factor for me waiting to purchase. The doubling of RAM made a significant increase in performance on the iPhone, so therefore, I do not see RAM as "irrelevant" as you say.
 
Semantics aside, the biggest reason why how much RAM the iPad has is irrelevant is simple: When you buy a computer, the manufacture lists the amount of RAM that comes with it so that you can fully know the limitations of your computer. However, with the iPad (and iPhone, iPod Touch, etc.) the limitations are irrelevant because every app that's developed for it is custom tailored to maximize the iPad's hardware (battery life be damned!). It's the same with the PS3 and XBOX 360 - although the memory specs might be known, it doesn't matter one iota because every game you play on it plays to the best of the hardware's abilities.

If you were to buy a PS3 or XBOX 360, would the amount of RAM be the deciding factor in whether or not you'd buy it?
 
Mactagonist, You think keeping consumers less informed is a good thing? I don't.

I don't see how anyone could possibly say keeping consumers less informed is a good thing on any count.

By the way, this "computer" stuff is silly. Wikipedia says "The iPad is a tablet computer developed by Apple Inc."

I didnt comment on it being a good or a bad thing. It just is. That is how Apple has chosen to market the i devices.

Then I dont think you are a salesmen or a marketer. :) Excessive choices and information make people shut down and refuse to buy anything. Giving full specs encourage people to compare products to their competitors and make decisions based on bullet point lists of specs rather then experiences and what a product can do for you.

Do you think that Apple wrote that wikipedia page? Find me a page on Apple.com that calls the iPad a computer. You wont.
 
No, I think a microwave is not a computer. The iPad is a computer.

All of these silly messages are beside the point. We should know how much RAM the iPad will have, so how much RAM is in it??

Anyone?

The iPad and iPhoneOS is a closed system who's details are known only by Apple. It is not comparable to any other platform out there. Even if you knew how much RAM the system had, how can you possibly make any determination if it is sufficient?

For this platform, deciding whether to buy or not based on the amount of RAM has got to be one of the dumbest arguments I've heard.

You should stick to more established platforms, IMHO.

-steve
 
It is not stated on the iPhone / iPod Touch page either.

I guess it is between 512MB and 1GB. The iPhone OS does not need that much RAM anyway, especially with the absent ability to multi-task.

The iPad is not a computer like a PC or Mac anyway.

Actually, it is (almost) exactly like a Mac. The OS is a trimmed down UNIX with Touch Cocoa instead of Cocoa like in OS X. In fact, the simulator is a thin layer that adds a keyboard/mouse enabled version of Touch Cocoa on top of the standard OS X layers.

While the system has a number of background processes running (thus, the OS is multi-tasking), you don't need multi-gigabytes of data when only one user level application is running at a time.
 
I read on the day of the media event 256. That may or may not be the case. But remember no one really cares how much RAM is in their iPhone as long as it runs well. We think of this as more of a computer than a phone or iPod but the reality is as long as it is responsive and handles everything thrown at it, it really doesn't matter.
 
Actually, it is (almost) exactly like a Mac. The OS is a trimmed down UNIX with Touch Cocoa instead of Cocoa like in OS X. In fact, the simulator is a thin layer that adds a keyboard/mouse enabled version of Touch Cocoa on top of the standard OS X layers.

While the system has a number of background processes running (thus, the OS is multi-tasking), you don't need multi-gigabytes of data when only one user level application is running at a time.

I should really draw a picture as I think my point is hard to understand.

Right now, and before of course, many people think of two things, when they hear the word computer.
That is either the desktop computer, known since the 70/80s, sitting either on the desk, or having a separate box under/besides the table/desk, where the monitor is normally positioned.
Then they also might think of a laptop/notebook computer, used also on a table, or lap or almost anywhere where one can comfortably use one.

Now the iPad can also be used at those locations, but it can be taken everywhere (like a laptop) if one wants. It is easier to use on the loo for example. Or on the go. Or wherever.

There is a computer inside of course, and it uses a Mac OS X derivative, but it is not seen as a classic desktop or laptop. And Apple does like that.
It uses a "new" primary input method, tested widely with the iPhone, and many more things.

I'm tired.


Ah, back on topic: It will have huge amounts of RAM, so much, than one can run Office, Photoshop, Avid, Motion, and many other applications, side by side. I think it will be around 32GB. I mean it is just a Mac Pro in disguise anyway.
 
robfromabove,

I don't understand how you or anyone else could possibly think RAM is irrelevant; if what you say is true, it would not matter if the iPad had 512MB or 1MB or none at all, and that's ridiculous. Of course RAM is relevant.

How are apps/games supposed to be developed to the best of the iPad's hardware abilities when developers don't even know how much RAM is inside it?
 
The question is irrelevant because we won't know the answer until the iPad is shipping. Apple will not announce any details about the A4 itself or other technical details of the platform.

Apple is taking pre-orders starting March 12th (because most likely iPads will be hard to find in stock for a while), don't you think we should know how much RAM is in there before we pre-order?
 
Apple is taking pre-orders starting March 12th (because most likely iPads will be hard to find in stock for a while), don't you think we should know how much RAM is in there before we pre-order?

By we you mean I, don't you?

It's like that game console example? Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft don't really advertise the components inside those computers. And almost no one cares.
Those are specialized machines, like the iPad. They get programmed for, something an Acer or Dell laptop could only dream of.
 
Apple is taking pre-orders starting March 12th (because most likely iPads will be hard to find in stock for a while), don't you think we should know how much RAM is in there before we pre-order?
Well, no. I didn't know how much RAM was in my iPhone when I bought it. I didn't know how much RAM was in my iPhone 3GS when I pre-ordered it. I know for me I couldn't care less.

I'm just stressing to you that Apple has never released this information before ahead of a iPhone OS device's launch. If this is information you require before buying, you'll be waiting until at least April 3rd to get it. And if you get it then, it will not be from Apple.
 
That is either the desktop computer, known since the 70/80s, sitting either on the desk, or having a separate box under/besides the table/desk, where the monitor is normally positioned.
Then they also might think of a laptop/notebook computer, used also on a table, or lap or almost anywhere where one can comfortably use one.

Now the iPad can also be used at those locations, but it can be taken everywhere (like a laptop) if one wants. It is easier to use on the loo for example. Or on the go. Or wherever.
Right. Apple wants people to see the iPad as a "new" device that can handle most of what you would do with a laptop. You are also correct about us getting off topic. :D
 
The better way to think about this is that you should base your buying decision on what apps end up existing for the iPad, not how much RAM it has. Does iPad app/game XYZ look awesome? Great, you buy an iPad and you can use it.

If you see an awesome PC or Mac app (or game especially), the first thing you have to do is look down the list of system requirements, where there are probably at least 4 items that are crucial to understand in order to figure out whether the thing will work on your computer or if you need to upgrade. I think the message from Apple is that this shouldn't be necessary.
 
This is easily one of the asinine conversations on here in a while. Who cares what the specs are? It's not like this machine is going to be used for any work or anything worthwhile. It's going to be used for writing blogs about how cool the iPad is, listening to music and watching videos. Maybe a little email in there (probably with a 'sent from my iPad' signature).

What matters is how smooth the interface is. I'm sure it will be slick as butter.

Consumers who think they're somehow a knowledgeable expert because they read MacRumors and Engadget annoy me to no end.
 
Tech Specs are fun, but such as RAM are overly irrelevant, Apple know how much it needs.
It's not like this machine is going to be used for any work or anything worthwhile.
I intend to work on the iPad if work based applications come out, IE iWork.
 
Just curious, what sort of work do people do with pages? Make flyers and type up reports about kangaroos? It seems like for anything relevant a more professional layout system should be used.
Well it's a word processor, so I guess writing articles etc... Keynote for creating presentations. Useful, if you need to do that stuff... I might add, particularly useful on a plane flight or train etc... you can whip it out and do some work, preferable over a laptop - at least for me.
 
Am I in crazy town? Someone wonders how much RAM is in an computing device on a web forum dedicated to the company that makes said devices and gets responses along the lines of, "YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!" And yeah, I do get the who idea that it's not like you have a choice and the device either works well for you or it doesn't, but still. You're not allowed to ask questions about technical specifications of the iPad? Sheesh.
 
Am I in crazy town? Someone wonders how much RAM is in an computing device on a web forum dedicated to the company that makes said devices and gets responses along the lines of, "YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!" And yeah, I do get the who idea that it's not like you have a choice and the device either works well for you or it doesn't, but still. You're not allowed to ask questions about technical specifications of the iPad? Sheesh.
You can ask any question you want to. But there's no evidence based on past performance that the answers will be available. Until someone tears it down, we won't know the answers. The question is premature.
 
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