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How much would you pay for the top of the line iPad with retina display

  • I would not pay any extra for it ($829)

    Votes: 192 67.8%
  • $900-$1100

    Votes: 47 16.6%
  • $1101-$1200

    Votes: 9 3.2%
  • $1201+

    Votes: 16 5.7%
  • I would not buy it

    Votes: 19 6.7%

  • Total voters
    283
With 256 mb ram the current iPad is already struggling as it is. When multitasking comes that'll put another strain on memory.

Doubling or quadrupling the amount of pixels to hold in memory would kill even a 512 mb ram iPad ...

Define struggling and provide proof as opposed to hyperbole. The 256 mb ram became a problem once people found out about it and found a new topic to complain about. My 64 gig 3G iPad is stuffed to the gills with stuff and it is just as responsive as it was when I took it out of the box. This is a non-starter designed for the serial complainer crowd who need something to be unhappy about no matter what.
 
Define struggling and provide proof as opposed to hyperbole. The 256 mb ram became a problem once people found out about it and found a new topic to complain about. My 64 gig 3G iPad is stuffed to the gills with stuff and it is just as responsive as it was when I took it out of the box. This is a non-starter designed for the serial complainer crowd who need something to be unhappy about no matter what.

I'm happy it's not a problem for you, but for me it meant that the browser wasn't as pleasant to use as my MBP's.
 
I'm happy it's not a problem for you, but for me it meant that the browser wasn't as pleasant to use as my MBP's.

You can't be serious. You are really comparing the full-blown browser on a computer to that of the iPad's browser? Really? You do understand the basic and fundamental differences between the two, and by the way ram has very little to do with this as well. Your argument is a bit flawed dude.
 
An iPad with a retina display would have more pixels than a 27" iMac. There's no way that apple could keep that at the same price.
Sure they can. They just wait until technology advances to the point where an 9.7" 2560 x 1920 panel costs them the same inflation-adjusted price to source as the current 1024 x 768 panel does now.

From your posts on this this thread you seem a smart guy so I'm sure you know this, and I understand that the point you were making above was implicitly talking about today's component prices, but I thought I'd point out the "wait for prices to drop" option since I believe this is what Apple will do. They also need to wait for the CPU/GPU technology to be available at all because right now that part of the product can't be sourced as production parts at any price because it simply doesn't exist on this planet.

- Julian
 
You can't be serious. You are really comparing the full-blown browser on a computer to that of the iPad's browser? Really? You do understand the basic and fundamental differences between the two, and by the way ram has very little to do with this as well. Your argument is a bit flawed dude.

Ram has everything to do with that, to me. It's what causing 'tab reloading', lack of tabbed browsing and the occasional Safari crash on sites with lots of pictures or embedded videos.
 
Ram has everything to do with that, to me. It's what causing 'tab reloading', lack of tabbed browsing and the occasional Safari crash on sites with lots of pictures or embedded videos.

Tab reloading is caused by the way Apple has written it which is crappy in my opinion. Thus, not a ram issue. Go try Bolt or Mercury and then come back and compare. Crashes can be attributed to many things but ram is probably not one of the immediate ones. Second, again you are comparing a stripped down browser to a full-blown proper browser. Apples and oranges dude. Still fruit but not the same.
 
Tab reloading is caused by the way Apple has written it which is crappy in my opinion. Thus, not a ram issue. Go try Bolt or Mercury and then come back and compare. Crashes can be attributed to many things but ram is probably not one of the immediate ones. Second, again you are comparing a stripped down browser to a full-blown proper browser. Apples and oranges dude. Still fruit but not the same.

I dont know what you mean by how Apple wrote it. iPhone 3GS&4 holds more tabs than iPad because of memory. Thus a ram issue. I don't know what Bolt or Mercury are, if they are browsers then I've tried alternatives like Atomic and it crashes too much, because it doesn't force you to use less memory like Safari.
A single tab in Safari can, given it's heavy in pictures/video, cause Safari to exceed it's memory allowance and crash.
 
I'm beginning to think people are just saying Retina because they can, with little or no understanding what it actually means. It's the same with 'unibody'.

To achieve 296 ppi on the iPad (which is lower than the iPhone 4's ~320ppi), they would need to up the res to 2304 by 1728. There would be more pixels in that display than in any other Apple product, bar the 30" display. A 3.2 MP image from an iPhone 3GS wouldn't fill that display! There is no video content that could be displayed in full resolution on that screen while being stored on the system's internal storage, let alone being processed by on-board chips.

Consider the amount of GPU grunt that would be required to run a display that densely packed. The device would have to be a lot thicker for cooling, and the battery life would be slashed. I seriously doubt they will change the res for several years to come.
 
You can't be serious. You are really comparing the full-blown browser on a computer to that of the iPad's browser? Really? You do understand the basic and fundamental differences between the two, and by the way ram has very little to do with this as well. Your argument is a bit flawed dude.

The iphone's browser is better at not reloading pages than iPad.
 
new product level for the wifi + 3G.... the iPad HD. I can see apple with this 3rd tier at a 100.00 premium over the other iPad 3G of the same spec
 
With raw materials shortages holding down production of existing devices, I can't imagine these next gen devices coming any time soon.
 
I dont know what you mean by how Apple wrote it. iPhone 3GS&4 holds more tabs than iPad because of memory. Thus a ram issue. I don't know what Bolt or Mercury are, if they are browsers then I've tried alternatives like Atomic and it crashes too much, because it doesn't force you to use less memory like Safari.
A single tab in Safari can, given it's heavy in pictures/video, cause Safari to exceed it's memory allowance and crash.

What do you mean that the 3GS holds more tabs because of ram? The 3GS has the same amount! How could it be a ram issue?

I think we will see better tab performance with 4.0 anyway. Still, I think apple really cheaped out with 256mb in the iPad.....
 
As technology advances, prices go down, so I don't think they're going to charge more just for the larger resolution. Besides, they didn't even change thee prices of the new iPhones.

Not often with Apple they don't. The last 3 versions of the imac have all been the same price for the equivilent models, just with spec bumps.

The 2012 iPad my have a retina display, at todays pricing.
 
An iPad with a "retina" display akin to the iPhone (~330PPI) is nearly, if not actually, impossible to mass produce. At the current size, the closest resolution to matching the density of the iPhone is 2560x1920. The panel itself, were it to be made, would cost around $800 at least (roughly based on costs of similarly high resolution panels) in the short term. Working with such a small display has tremendous risks and yields would very low (remember the delays with the 27" iMac). Finding someone willing to mass produce such a display won't be very easy as they will certainly be assuming much of the risk; LG is already under enough fire for not producing enough of the standard iPad displays.

So if we could find a manufacturer willing to try, enough patience to wait for enough acceptable units to come off the line, and enough money to afford the display once it becomes available, you still have to contend with the iPad's hardware. This iPad retina display has roughly NINE TIMES as many pixels as the iPhone 4. Sure, static icons and backgrounds should render well enough, but apps, especially 3D ones cannot run at that resolution with the A4 SoC, at least not well. Look at PC gaming for an analog. Look at how much more powerful a graphics card has to be to run at 2560x1600 versus 1024x768. We are talking a difference of several generations. Mobile GPUs aren't there yet, not by a long shot. Using a faster one would require more power to operate, diminishing battery life as well.

The likely tradeoff would be many apps running at lower resolutions, probably even back to the current 1024x768. And for the difficulty and cost with getting that fancy high-res display, that is a significant waste. We may eventually get to the point the hardware and display can fit in an iPad at an affordable price, but we have a ways to go.
 
I'd pay a $100 over the 629USD one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365793,00.asp

In that article, they say the iPhone 4 RD costs 28.50 USD...

That's the cost of the part. That's not what a customer ends up paying for it.

I don't think you could get that display in iPad size for less than $300 in part cost, which means as a customer you would pay at least $600 for it.

And as you can read elsewhere, Apple has major problems sourcing the number of normal displays that they want for the iPad. Now creating that resolution at about eight times the area is a major challenge. So there's no way that Apple could get these displays anywhere near the numbers that they would need.
 
That's the cost of the part. That's not what a customer ends up paying for it.

I don't think you could get that display in iPad size for less than $300 in part cost, which means as a customer you would pay at least $600 for it.

And as you can read elsewhere, Apple has major problems sourcing the number of normal displays that they want for the iPad. Now creating that resolution at about eight times the area is a major challenge. So there's no way that Apple could get these displays anywhere near the numbers that they would need.

And I love how iSuppli admits they don't even know who manufactured it but were willing to put a $28.50 price on it. They really are iPullItOutOfMyAss.

Even if (and that's a big IF) the display was anywhere near $28.50, you can't just multiply that by 4 and assume that the iPad display would cost that.
 
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