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All I want is for Live Photos be full 12MP resolution all the way through. Maybe they’ll be able to do it somehow.
 
I find it extremely funny how this article portrays pixel binning as an amazing advancement in photography when real photo/video professionals and enthusiasts absolutely hate the usage of pixel binning in the real professional cameras. in a real camera pixel binning would be a massive CON/limitation (it is a workaround for poor image sensor/processor performance) and now it appears there will be a drive to make it a PRO when used in smartphones.
From my perspective as a photographer I ask you this: Do you think Apple will release a new iPhone with worse image quality?

They would be shredded. They will make this work better than any version of this technology in the past using computational photography and all the other tricks in their imaging pipeline. Cameras using pixel binning have few if any of the resources that the iPhone has. There are limits on sensor size in smartphones due to the science of optics hitting up against the thinness of smartphones. Until something new can be developed—such as an array of micro lenses or some other newer technology that allows for optical gymnastics or reduces noise between photosites—this is probably our best bet. Especially if you need to deploy it at this kind of scale.

Apple does a lot of things that other companies have done before. Thing is, they almost always do it way better. Give it a chance.
 
Use of the term "Android smartphones" seems redundant. Are there any non-smartphones that run Android? Do you say iPhone smartphones?
pretty much all device classes have android ports, be it tablets, tvs, car infotainement systems, set top boxes, digital cameras, hell even PCs...

also Android is an OS, so the equivalent of your last sentence would be "iOS smartphones".
 
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Why not just increase the size of the camera? I know we don’t want a full dslr sized lens on the front or back of our phones. Could apple increase the aperture on the back to roughly the size of a dime or nickel?
 
8k isn’t silly anymore than 4K was silly. It’s less useful vs 4K for basic videos just as 4K was less useful for people who have 1080 sets or low quality internet connections. Where 8k is def useful is in next gen applications for VR where you are able to get very close to a very big screen virtually and have 8k capable headsets which are coming as they mention in the Article. Also, most of you favourite YouTubers shoot in 8k for the editing flexibility. More people would do that as well if it was affordable. Personally. I want the highest res videos I can get of my kids. I love every detail.
Yeah, I initially thought 8k was stupid until I saw an 8k TV at Best Buy. You could be inches from the screen and not be able to tell the pixels apart. Now I still think that 65" 8k TV itself was ridiculous, however I could see that level of pixel density being great in certain applications like giant computer monitors. Also allowing 4k screen space with retina level scaling.
 
"super-pixel" which will probably only be around 1 square micron. Gotta laugh.

For comparisson, a 30 MP Canon 5D IV sensor has sites around 29 times that area. Canon's C70 and C300 Cinema Camera sensors have sites around 41 times that area.

It's all about physics and tradeoffs.
 
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I know it won't happen (at least any time soon), but I really wish iPhones & iPads could get miniSD card slots. Considering how much space these images & videos take up, we need the extra space. Sure, iPads can get up to 2 TB, but that doesn't go far with all the other apps & documents. Plus, iCloud storage is still stuck at 2 TB, and can suffer from slow internet.

On the same note, add an M.2 or U.2 SSD slot on Pro Macs. Same reason.
 
"Already in use on some Android smartphones like Samsung's Galaxy S21 Ultra,"

As usual Apple is following the leaders. They're about 4-8 years behind everyone else. Pathetic.
But...they "listen to their users"....yup...sure do.
 
What about video recording in lowlight ? Is Apple just saying goodbye for their better lowlight video capabilities as they were the only one staying at 12Mpx because of that ? I believe that there's pixel binning for photos capture but this isn't possible while recording and every news about a new 48Mpx sensor are regarding this to be revolutionary...

And although they're making the sensor bigger (maybe around 1/1.3" at the best), that still makes the pixel size smaller than those on the 13PM...
So is there so many enhancements other than a sharper image etc in photography area and 8K recording ? Wouldn't be better if Apple is only enhancing to 16Mpx or maybe 20Mpx as they keep both the benefits ?
8K recording seem to be a bad idea as those videos won't be as good at dynamic range and would have worst focus (as we see on S21Ultra and other phones) and taking so much storage. Transferring those files would also be a pain because of the lightning port, but this is another issue...

Can someone explain me better that please ? I'm not at all an expert and don't understand why they're making these choices.
 
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I find it extremely funny how this article portrays pixel binning as an amazing advancement in photography when real photo/video professionals and enthusiasts absolutely hate the usage of pixel binning in the real professional cameras. in a real camera pixel binning would be a massive CON/limitation (it is a workaround for poor image sensor/processor performance) and now it appears there will be a drive to make it a PRO when used in smartphones.
Sometimes we really have to remind people these phones use custom mobile sensors, not professional grade ones

Pixel binning has existed in phones for a few years, especially on Samsung phones, and no one has complained about that feature. If anything, the latest Galaxy phones are among the top 5, if not top 3, of the best phone cameras.
 
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Camera improvement over 13 Pro Max doesn’t interest me,but I’m really interested to know about the punch hole replacing notch rumours.

That’s a game changer (for iPhones anyway) and while I’m waiting for stock availability to pick up a 13 Pro Max,I’m seriously thinking about cancelling it and wait for 14 Pro Max.

It will instantly make 13 Pro Max,and anything lower end obsolete design wise.
 
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Images will be better but you’re going to need more storage on your iPhone especially if your going to take 8K videos
Bottom Line: more money for 
 
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Why not just increase the size of the camera? I know we don’t want a full dslr sized lens on the front or back of our phones. Could apple increase the aperture on the back to roughly the size of a dime or nickel?
The only way they could do that is if they also made the camera bump as thick as the phone itself.
 
From my perspective as a photographer I ask you this: Do you think Apple will release a new iPhone with worse image quality?

They would be shredded. They will make this work better than any version of this technology in the past using computational photography and all the other tricks in their imaging pipeline.
The thing is, there’s only be that much space for the sensor, and more post image processing and computational power will be involved to make image look best in customer’s eye, deviating further and further away from reality. Apple can keep selling their iPhone and keep repeating their Pro bs but professionals can’t be bothered about too much post processing.
 
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Kuo expects the iPhone 14 Pro's new 48-megapixel Wide lens to support 8K video recording, up from 4K currently, and he said these high-resolution videos would be suitable for viewing on Apple's rumored AR/VR headset expected to launch next year.
If you're viewing video in VR, you basically have two options.

1. You can display it on a massive virtual movie theater screen. But the screens in the new headset are rumored to be 4K pixels wide, so you won't get anything extra out of 8K video, unless the screen is so big you can't see the whole thing without turning your head.

2. You can display the footage at actual size, as if your eye is where the camera lens was in the scene. But this requires an ultra-wide lens to fill your field of view, preferably some kind of fisheye lens, so just having 8K on the standard "wide" lens isn't going to help much here either.
 
First time registered anonymous user, 20+ year lurker of Macrumors. @arnoldkim—thank you!!!

Anyway—the thought of iphones with 2+ TB storage is pretty wow to save numerous of these wide shots photos.
 
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