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Hope there will be a way to lower the pixels, good lord, I cannot even imagine to look at the mother-in-law in such a high resolution!!!
 
Binning will reduce the effective pixels to give you better low light performance and can (in some cases) improve SNR. However, wouldn't the daytime non-binned sensor (at full resolution) be oversampled or will that get "fixed" by sampling "short video" to produce the final image? All these tricks are NOT new and each is a tradeoff used to address different problems. The trade off of binning (assuming 2x) reduces resolution while increasing the electrons captured by each (2x2) super pixel and potentially improves the SNR as well. There is no free lunch. Question is, what's being done to read noise with the new sensor?
 
interesting, pixel-binning I'm not sure about as it will be very very processor intensive and the outcome, we will have to see. I'd probably prefer some slight "real" increase in megapixel to ~ 16MP vs 12, for all cameras. Would also be more interested in new/better telephoto capabilities ...
But, it's currently a rumor and we will see what unveils in September
Binning can be done in hardware or software. There isn't a heavy tax to pay in terms of processing. However, the lens will likely be oversampled when not binned. Translation, keep adding pixels (high MP) to a given lens and you end up with a mushy image unless there is something else done to address sampling for the given lens.
 
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Binning can be done in hardware or software. There isn't a heavy tax to pay in terms of processing. However, the lens will likely be oversampled when not binned. Translation, keep adding pixels (high MP) to a given lens and you end up with a mushy image unless there is something else done to address sampling for the given lens.
You WANT your lens to be oversampled!
Undersampling causes Moire and other aliasing artefacts, which also messes with the downstream image processing.
 
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I want the Carver Mead - Sigma Foveon sensor but taken to 250 megapixels, and some new kind of glass that so the phone lenses imitate those on full size DSLRs.
 
Yes, it is not easy and it is complicated but Apple will pull it off just fine. Slowly getting excited for the iPhone 14 already. 😎

Let’s get it!

But you just got the 13 Pro?!

This 14 looks super clean, reminiscent of the iPhone 4/4S as much as the 12/13 series harkened back to the 5/5S/SE OG models.

Very curious about colour options on the 14. Not sure if Apple will keep colour or just Black & White.
 
I think THE killer feature for Pro's on macOS/iOS/iPadOS would be to have presets you can create with specific functions etc within Final Cut Pro or iMovie and upload them to the camera/video settings on iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max models and boom shoot cut edit save away.

The iPhone 14 will NEED to be this wicked to been the past 2yrs of sales..
 
But you just got the 13 Pro?!

This 14 looks super clean, reminiscent of the iPhone 4/4S as much as the 12/13 series harkened back to the 5/5S/SE OG models.

Very curious about colour options on the 14. Not sure if Apple will keep colour or just Black & White.
That’s completely fine. I’m still going to upgrade without hesitating. Even if Apple releases a new Apple iPhone every 6 months I’m upgrading. I love the iPhone. Since 2008, never missed a year not to upgrade.
 
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I find it extremely funny how this article portrays pixel binning as an amazing advancement in photography when real photo/video professionals and enthusiasts absolutely hate the usage of pixel binning in the real professional cameras. in a real camera pixel binning would be a massive CON/limitation (it is a workaround for poor image sensor/processor performance) and now it appears there will be a drive to make it a PRO when used in smartphones.
Im a photo/video professional and I don’t hate the usage of pixel binning in professional cameras, sorry.
 
Can they just fix the smudgey post-processing they're doing on iPhone 13 photos instead?
 
48 Megapixels??!!!!!
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It has once again been rumored that next year's iPhone 14 Pro models will feature an upgraded 48-megapixel primary camera (the "Wide" lens), compared to a 12-megapixel Wide lens on iPhone 13 Pro models, but it is not as simple as it might sound.

iPhone-14-Mock-Roundup-2.5.jpg

In a research note earlier this year, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said iPhone 14 Pro models may support both 48-megapixel and 12-megapixel output, which would likely be achieved with a process known as pixel binning. Already in use on some Android smartphones like Samsung's Galaxy S21 Ultra, pixel binning merges data from multiple smaller pixels on the camera's image sensor into one "super-pixel" for improved low-light sensitivity.

Pixel binning is beneficial because simply increasing a smartphone camera's megapixels while maintaining the same camera sensor size results in smaller pixels, which generally capture less light, leading to lower-quality low-light photos. Pixel binning would allow iPhone 14 Pro models to shoot high-resolution 48-megapixel photos in bright conditions and 12-megapixel photos in low-light conditions that are still of high quality.

On the Galaxy S21 Ultra, the device shoots 12-megapixel photos by default, with a toggle available in the camera app for shooting 108-megapixel photos. This is ideal for most users, as high-resolution photos have large file sizes that can use up lots of storage space. A single 108-megapixel photo shot with the Galaxy S21 Ultra can have a 16MB file size, for example, compared to the average 12-megapixel photo being around 2-3MB.

CNET's Stephen Shankland wrote a helpful explainer that goes into more detail on the technical aspects of pixel binning earlier this year.

Kuo expects the iPhone 14 Pro's new 48-megapixel Wide lens to support 8K video recording, up from 4K currently, and he said these high-resolution videos would be suitable for viewing on Apple's rumored AR/VR headset expected to launch next year.

Kuo ultimately believes that the camera quality of the iPhone 14 Pro models will "elevate mobile phone camera photography to a new level."

Article Link: How the iPhone 14 Pro's Upgraded 48-Megapixel Camera is Expected to Work


It has once again been rumored that next year's iPhone 14 Pro models will feature an upgraded 48-megapixel primary camera (the "Wide" lens), compared to a 12-megapixel Wide lens on iPhone 13 Pro models, but it is not as simple as it might sound.

iPhone-14-Mock-Roundup-2.5.jpg

In a research note earlier this year, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said iPhone 14 Pro models may support both 48-megapixel and 12-megapixel output, which would likely be achieved with a process known as pixel binning. Already in use on some Android smartphones like Samsung's Galaxy S21 Ultra, pixel binning merges data from multiple smaller pixels on the camera's image sensor into one "super-pixel" for improved low-light sensitivity.

Pixel binning is beneficial because simply increasing a smartphone camera's megapixels while maintaining the same camera sensor size results in smaller pixels, which generally capture less light, leading to lower-quality low-light photos. Pixel binning would allow iPhone 14 Pro models to shoot high-resolution 48-megapixel photos in bright conditions and 12-megapixel photos in low-light conditions that are still of high quality.

On the Galaxy S21 Ultra, the device shoots 12-megapixel photos by default, with a toggle available in the camera app for shooting 108-megapixel photos. This is ideal for most users, as high-resolution photos have large file sizes that can use up lots of storage space. A single 108-megapixel photo shot with the Galaxy S21 Ultra can have a 16MB file size, for example, compared to the average 12-megapixel photo being around 2-3MB.

CNET's Stephen Shankland wrote a helpful explainer that goes into more detail on the technical aspects of pixel binning earlier this year.

Kuo expects the iPhone 14 Pro's new 48-megapixel Wide lens to support 8K video recording, up from 4K currently, and he said these high-resolution videos would be suitable for viewing on Apple's rumored AR/VR headset expected to launch next year.

Kuo ultimately believes that the camera quality of the iPhone 14 Pro models will "elevate mobile phone camera photography to a new level."

Article Link: How the iPhone 14 Pro's Upgraded 48-Megapixel Camera is Expected to Work
I am on iPhone 11 Pro Max and I am actually looking forward to this!

As everyone knows the iPhone decides, depending on the available light, when to use the wide or the tele photo lens for a zoomed-in image.

So it is only logical to assume, that Apple is going to design an algorithm that will decide, depending on the available light, when you will get the full 48 megapixel image and when you will end up with only a pixel binned image.

Advancements of the main camera is the only reason why I would buy a new iPhone. So next year it's getting more and more likely I would buy a new iPhone. Because of macro mode and now 48megapixel sensor.

Just waiting for Apple to adopt a periscope like tele photo lens like on the Sam*ung Galaxy Note 20. Of course it will only work well in bright daylight, but it would be very nice to have!
 
pixel phones also did this with p6 u wont really see much of the difference but main advantage is that computational photography can improve. but the difference old to new might not be 10%.

what iphone really needs so badly is actually periscope zoom. which makes tons and tons and tons of difference traditionally zoom has been the biggest handicaps of phones compared to slr.

I can now zoom into the moon with such clarity. pixel zoom isnt that much compared to samsung 10x but with AI pixel can get 9x zoom optical this is such a godsent. this is a must have and most phones have this already

if iphone doesnt have this it will be total failure
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pixel phones also did this with p6 u wont really see much of the difference but main advantage is that computational photography can improve. but the difference old to new might not be 10%.

what iphone really needs so badly is actually periscope zoom. which makes tons and tons and tons of difference traditionally zoom has been the biggest handicaps of phones compared to slr.

I can now zoom into the moon with such clarity. pixel zoom isnt that much compared to samsung 10x but with AI pixel can get 9x zoom optical this is such a godsent. this is a must have and most phones have this already

if iphone doesnt have this it will be total failureView attachment 1929161
Is that picture a good or bad example of zoom?
 
You WANT your lens to be oversampled!
Undersampling causes Moire and other aliasing artefacts, which also messes with the downstream image processing.
You don't want to oversample. It IS better to oversample than under sample, true. But over sampling has no advantage and only gives you a larger file size which will impact processing. If you're oversampling, your sensor is exceeding the capability of your light path (lens, etc.).
 
You don't want to oversample. It IS better to oversample than under sample, true. But over sampling has no advantage and only gives you a larger file size which will impact processing. If you're oversampling, your sensor is exceeding the capability of your light path (lens, etc.).
Storage resolution is independent of sampling resolution.
And fundamentally you want the sensor to be able to capture what is transmitted by the light path, we’ve just been living in the start-up of digital imaging where this has been expensive. Now it isn’t really anymore, the limitations are to a large extent driven by a desire to milk the market. Cell phone cameras upended the digital camera market among other things by not dribbling out minute upgrades every 3-4 years or so, and what they can do with optics+sensor combinations costing a couple of dollars shines a not too flattering light on the camera industry. But now it’s their turn to close in on the point where the bulk of consumers no longer cares about the differences.

Arguably an issue with increasing resolution isn’t data storage (which, again, is independent of sampling resolution), but data transfer. The conversion and data interfaces on the sensors haven’t been particularly fast and the development has trotted along at a sedate pace. That is changing though, in part by bringing processing to the sensor stack (which seems a bit odd honestly, but keeps more money in Sonys pocket, and may reduce data transfer energy costs a little). And of course there is the limits of our abilities to percieve, since there are people who never crop, enlarge, or process and thus can’t see the use for more image information than is immediately apparent.

Headroom is nice though. And while most imagery today is very transient indeed, a few pictures or videos touch the heartstrings and later memories of the people involved, and will be viewed a life time or even between generations. Today, resolution is cheap. It’s a limitation we can simply do away with, and at low cost. So lets do that and shift our attention elsewhere.
 
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It has once again been rumored that next year's iPhone 14 Pro models will feature an upgraded 48-megapixel primary camera (the "Wide" lens), compared to a 12-megapixel Wide lens on iPhone 13 Pro models, but it is not as simple as it might sound.

iPhone-14-Mock-Roundup-2.5.jpg

In a research note earlier this year, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said iPhone 14 Pro models may support both 48-megapixel and 12-megapixel output, which would likely be achieved with a process known as pixel binning. Already in use on some Android smartphones like Samsung's Galaxy S21 Ultra, pixel binning merges data from multiple smaller pixels on the camera's image sensor into one "super-pixel" for improved low-light sensitivity.

Pixel binning is beneficial because simply increasing a smartphone camera's megapixels while maintaining the same camera sensor size results in smaller pixels, which generally capture less light, leading to lower-quality low-light photos. Pixel binning would allow iPhone 14 Pro models to shoot high-resolution 48-megapixel photos in bright conditions and 12-megapixel photos in low-light conditions that are still of high quality.

On the Galaxy S21 Ultra, the device shoots 12-megapixel photos by default, with a toggle available in the camera app for shooting 108-megapixel photos. This is ideal for most users, as high-resolution photos have large file sizes that can use up lots of storage space. A single 108-megapixel photo shot with the Galaxy S21 Ultra can have a 16MB file size, for example, compared to the average 12-megapixel photo being around 2-3MB.

CNET's Stephen Shankland wrote a helpful explainer that goes into more detail on the technical aspects of pixel binning earlier this year.

Kuo expects the iPhone 14 Pro's new 48-megapixel Wide lens to support 8K video recording, up from 4K currently, and he said these high-resolution videos would be suitable for viewing on Apple's rumored AR/VR headset expected to launch next year.

Kuo ultimately believes that the camera quality of the iPhone 14 Pro models will "elevate mobile phone camera photography to a new level."

Article Link: How the iPhone 14 Pro's Upgraded 48-Megapixel Camera is Expected to Work
Give me SD storage, a bigger sensor, make iPad and iOS more capable for powerful that use processeR power. USC-C, and make durable,
 
Wouldn't it also be useful for zooming? Not sure why this isn't mentioned. All focal lengths between 1x and 3x could be crops of that larger sensor. I say 3x assuming they will still have the telephoto. Image quality will decrease with the crop and drop in binning, but it will likely be better than the upscaled image we get now. Especially in decent light.

This was mentioned in the older rumours. For the 12/13 there was a rumour of a 48mp sensor, which was to be used for zooming.

The way the bump has shrunk makes me wonder if the telephoto lens is gone. There are Android devices with only minor bumps that use the same technique (huge MP, cropping based zoom, no zoom lens).
 
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