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How to Add and Organize Images in Photos for OS X Yosemite
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If by original, you mean the original you imported to Photos, any keyword changes you make in Photos on the Mac will be updated in iCloud and searchable on all devices connected to that iCloud Photo Library.
If by original, you mean a file that has not been imported into or previously exported out of Photos, you'll have to Export the file after you've made the changes.
I say this as one who has Photos set to "copy files to the Photos Library" in Preferences. My primary goal for Photos was to have the same images on all devices with no headaches. I read of too many iCloud syncing issues when Photos is only referencing files/folders in the Mac's file system.... as is normally done with LR. I also started with an empty Photos library. Nothing was a carryover from iPhoto or Aperture. All files were imported to the Photos Library from the folders LR is referencing on my HD. Probably more than you needed to know...but there you have it
Keyword searching is astonishingly fast on the iOS devices (the Mac, too). I don't know if you've tried it. I've been keywording since LR 1 and it's been such a pleasure to see 100+ years of photos on all devices and searchable by keywords in a second. Photos seems to get a bad rap around here but for my uses it's been phenomenal. I say that never being much of an iPhoto or Aperture fan. That being said, Apple adding more features to Photos will be very welcome!
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Thanks Rick. I do mean an original RAW file I import. I like to import and then change the filename to a date format, then I add keywording. This is an aperture and then I save or write the IPTC information back to that original file.
I'm nervous about upgrading from aperture just yet but I do have some trail camera pictures for which all import into photos as a test run.
Thanks again.
I'm nervous about upgrading from aperture just yet but I do have some trail camera pictures for which all import into photos as a test run.
Thanks again.
I think Photos was an upgrade in terms of handling large quantities of pictures - it certainly runs smoother than iPhoto now.
But unfortunately, it wasn't any upgrade in terms of functions and customization - in fact, it was pretty much a significant downgrade! I can no longer do what I like with the app and with my photos; I can only do whatever Apple wants me to do with them... So, until Apple brings back the practical functions, I'll stay with the old iPhoto.
What I am missing are: Geotag; Batch Edit; Sharing/Uploading photos to social media including their Titles/Descriptions; Viewing/Editing photos with dark background (What in the world did they think it was a good idea to make a photo apps with a pure white background...?!?!), etc.
But unfortunately, it wasn't any upgrade in terms of functions and customization - in fact, it was pretty much a significant downgrade! I can no longer do what I like with the app and with my photos; I can only do whatever Apple wants me to do with them... So, until Apple brings back the practical functions, I'll stay with the old iPhoto.
What I am missing are: Geotag; Batch Edit; Sharing/Uploading photos to social media including their Titles/Descriptions; Viewing/Editing photos with dark background (What in the world did they think it was a good idea to make a photo apps with a pure white background...?!?!), etc.
If you delete a photo in your iPhone's photo app, Dropbox gets horribly out of date. If you edit the photo in your iPhone's photo app, Dropbox gets horribly out of date. Dropbox also does not keep up to date with your smart albums, folders, etc. in the photos app on your iPhone.
The iCloud Photo Library is available on the web, all your Macs, and all your iOS devices. Including the Apple TV and the Apple Watch. It's fully integrated and seamless with true two way sync. Dropbox doesn't come close.
What if iCloud access is too slow?
If I want to do some editing using pixlemator (one of the best apps I have ever used in any problem domain) do I have to wait for the picture to download from iCloud or can I still get a direct sync via lightning/usb to my mac?
Maybe this would not even be a concern if the rollout of high speed internet wasn't so slow - Just sayin I live in a nice apartment in a major metroplex in a high tech area and I am lucky to get a few Mbps download rate. If I am forced to wait for an iCloud download to finish before I can start editing this is going to be a big step backwards. It going to suck worse for videos. I have already had that sort of experience during my dark period when I temporarily switched to google Nexus.
BTW, how the hell do you kill off iPhoto? One of the greatest apps ever!
If I want to do some editing using pixlemator (one of the best apps I have ever used in any problem domain) do I have to wait for the picture to download from iCloud or can I still get a direct sync via lightning/usb to my mac?
Maybe this would not even be a concern if the rollout of high speed internet wasn't so slow - Just sayin I live in a nice apartment in a major metroplex in a high tech area and I am lucky to get a few Mbps download rate. If I am forced to wait for an iCloud download to finish before I can start editing this is going to be a big step backwards. It going to suck worse for videos. I have already had that sort of experience during my dark period when I temporarily switched to google Nexus.
BTW, how the hell do you kill off iPhoto? One of the greatest apps ever!
iCloud Photos are stored locally on your devices and computers. There is no need to wait to download from the cloud to use Pixelmator with it. The only difference is if you choose "optimize storage" on any particular device or computer.
Of course you probably wouldn't choose "optimize storage" for your Mac. Only your iOS devices. So Pixelmator works great with iCloud Photos and there is no waiting to download. In fact, the Pixelmator team has hinted that they have plans to create extensions and integration directly into the Photos app.
The Photos app was meant to be a great base for a photo app that's easy to use but can be extended by third party developers for extra functionality. Those "pros" who disparage it right now are going to look stupid when Pixelmator, Adobe, and other 3rd parties start building their integrations into it.
One option is to plug in your phone and launch Image Capture (it's on all Macs) and download the images to your file system.
BTW, mine also take forever to upload from my phone to the cloud and back down to the Mac. 2Mbps upload speeds here.
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Good luck. I hope it works well for you.
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You are missing my point. What happens when you view a document on your iOS device that is stored in your Dropbox? Well, it is downloaded. What happens when you kill the Dropbox app and cut off all network communications? The document is still there and accessible. However, at some point the file is deleted automatically in the background.
Now, if Dropbox can automatically delete files in the background (or the OS is deciding when to delete files and Dropbox is just marking a file as being fine to be deleted) why would the Photos app not be able to do the same?
You asked: "So how do I get rid of the downloaded full resolution picture once I have viewed it and no use for it anymore on my iDevice without it being deleted everywhere?"
I ask: "So how do I get rid of the document downloaded from Dropbox once I have viewed it and no use for it anymore on my iDevice without it being deleted everywhere?"
Why are you getting freaked out about Photos keeping images on your device that you don't want on the device anymore while at the same time not getting freaked out about Dropbox keeping documents on your device that you don't want on the device anymore?
I like this better than photo stream. Photo stream could get confusing--it was harder to answer the question, "what happens when I delete this photo?" because the answer differed depending on certain things. iCloud Photo Library may be simplistic for some people but at least it's easy to explain. I get the feeling photo stream was a stop gap while they worked on this.
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So if I go out for the day and take a bunch of pictures on my iphone I am guessing the photos will be uploaded to iCloud by the time I get home at night. It's at this time I want to grab the photos off my phone via direct lightining/usb connection. So if I can still do that even though the photos are already uploaded to iCloud then I am happy. I liked the way iPhoto would let me import my photos and ask me if I wanted to delete them off my device. I also liked being able to choose which photos I wanted to store in an album on iCloud. The only time I have ever had any optimization problems is when I used a Nexus phone which saved stuff off to Google's clould. I hated that.
Mac primary, iPhone secondary
Despite the ease of syncing photos across multiple devices, and having an instant online backup of some of my most precious memories, I've got this problem with the idea, so I'm reluctant to enable it...
Sure, I take the odd snap with an iPhone. Never with an iPad. But when I take proper pictures I use my DSLR, often in continuous shoot. That means loading them onto my Mac, selecting and editing the good ones.
On my iPhone, the last thing I want to see is 50 very similar un-edited shots for every good one.
How's that gonna work for me?
Despite the ease of syncing photos across multiple devices, and having an instant online backup of some of my most precious memories, I've got this problem with the idea, so I'm reluctant to enable it...
Sure, I take the odd snap with an iPhone. Never with an iPad. But when I take proper pictures I use my DSLR, often in continuous shoot. That means loading them onto my Mac, selecting and editing the good ones.
On my iPhone, the last thing I want to see is 50 very similar un-edited shots for every good one.
How's that gonna work for me?
That's what albums and favorites are for. Nothing goes in an album or favorites unless you specifically choose it. Or alternatively you can use the "hide" feature in combination with moments, collections, etc. to hide the ones you don't want to show.
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... huge problem with Photos is the absolute horrendous sync quality: Sometimes it works, sometimes it does´t. We get different sync results with different IOS devices.
I understand the premise behind the new iCloud syncing, but its just a big big mess at the moment. And a shame: Apple has money up to the sky and competitors like Google or Dropbox to compare to - yet they mess it up again.
iCloud/Photos is just duplication service, and a bad one at the moment, when you can´t trust it. That said it is a money grabbing scheme, too, when your Photos library is huge and you pay the most expensive service with the least quality at the moment.
I can trust Dropbox for sync and duplication, I can trust google for syncing, Crashplan for online backup - but not Apple, that´s the tragedy.
Apple never really understood nor understands now the Internet and its premises, it´s crazy.
... huge problem with Photos is the absolute horrendous sync quality: Sometimes it works, sometimes it does´t. We get different sync results with different IOS devices.
I understand the premise behind the new iCloud syncing, but its just a big big mess at the moment. And a shame: Apple has money up to the sky and competitors like Google or Dropbox to compare to - yet they mess it up again.
iCloud/Photos is just duplication service, and a bad one at the moment, when you can´t trust it. That said it is a money grabbing scheme, too, when your Photos library is huge and you pay the most expensive service with the least quality at the moment.
I can trust Dropbox for sync and duplication, I can trust google for syncing, Crashplan for online backup - but not Apple, that´s the tragedy.
Apple never really understood nor understands now the Internet and its premises, it´s crazy.
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to import photos from my iPhone and exclude the ones that have downloaded through 'Photo Stream'.
Preciously 'Photo Stream' photos got put in their own monthly event (which was convenient for selective syncing with the iPhone), and iPhoto would recognise photos on the phone that were already downloaded, and allow you to delete them.
It doesn't seem to be able to do this anymore. The result is I end up with two copies of my photos in 'Photos', and if I delete the duplicates it deletes them from my photo stream...
Preciously 'Photo Stream' photos got put in their own monthly event (which was convenient for selective syncing with the iPhone), and iPhoto would recognise photos on the phone that were already downloaded, and allow you to delete them.
It doesn't seem to be able to do this anymore. The result is I end up with two copies of my photos in 'Photos', and if I delete the duplicates it deletes them from my photo stream...
On OSX Photos application: Is it possible to disable the confirm window that popup when I delete a photo? I don't think the confirmation as necessary since deleted photos are moved to the "Recently Deleted" section in case of accidental deletion.
Thank you for posting this! I wasn't aware that that's how it works, but I haven't really bothered to explore the app much.
Yes, if you go to this screen in iTunes it looks like before with iPhoto and the same options are there.
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For me, Photos/ICPL is back to "it just works".
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Create another Photos library that you don't sync to ICPL?
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Would have to also delete everything in Recently Deleted, or wait 30 days before figuring out they were not yet lost?
I can select them in mine. Are your iPhoto "events" (albums) still in that iPhoto events subsection at the bottom of the left column from after the import? I dragged all the albums from there up to the main Photos Album area you see at the top in my screenshot.
I'm wondering if that is what mine works and yours does not?
Organization of pictures
I was using events in iPhoto to organize my picture by date. Most of my pictures are old, and I would type in a year for the event and scan all the pictures from that event. Since migrating them to Photo, I've lost my organization system. I can't figure out how to continue adding to previous years or how to view my pictures in order. Any suggestions?
I was using events in iPhoto to organize my picture by date. Most of my pictures are old, and I would type in a year for the event and scan all the pictures from that event. Since migrating them to Photo, I've lost my organization system. I can't figure out how to continue adding to previous years or how to view my pictures in order. Any suggestions?
Yes. Those folders cannot be dropped into Photos or All Photos.
