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only with the 3GS do you have to worry about tethered/untethered
all iPhone 3G/2G are untethered

and the 5.11.07 baseband is unlockable with blacksn0w (only applies to 3G/3GS)

so in short, yes untethered and yes unlockable
 
I can confirm that I (likewise) was unable to get the Device Instance Path to show up on a WindowsXP machine with a 3GS in DFU mode. I brought the iPhone over to a different computer running Windows7 and it showed up there no problem! So if you are sure you're in DFU mode and still can't find the iBoot, don't worry you're not crazy! - it just doesn't seem to show up under the Device Properties on some WindowsXP machines...

Hi guys :)

Just in case anyone's looking to this thread as a reference, the instructions didn't work for me. (I'm on WinXP, with a 3GS)

Specifically, when I went to look in the details panel, I didn't have a "Device Instance Path" as a drop down option. I had something close, "Device Instance Code" or something like that, but it didn't have the iBoot version information.

BUT I was able to use usbview (instead of device manager) to figure it out. USBview is one of the tools you use to get your ECID when you're using umbrella to generate a backup shsh in case you want to reinstall an old firmware after Apple decides it doesn't want to let you anymore.

I'm not sure if we're allowed to post links in this forum, so if you're looking for usbview, you can google for: "howto usbview ecid shsh umbrella" to see how it's used for iPhones.

Oh, and the Power+Home button trick worked just fine for me for getting out of DFU mode.
 
Any idea when we could be able to unlock iphone4.

I am getting one but not sure when i would be able to use it :(
 
after jailbreaking+unlocking iphone 3g, constatly power off by itself

Hello everbody on this great place,

my problem is next, i upgraded my iphone 3g on OS 4.0 - manually, by pressing button shift and selecting iphone os 4.0 .ipsw file, before downloaded from apple..

Everything passed ok, after that i unlocked phone with ulstrasnow over cydia, everthing again passed ok, phone sim unlocked, gsm signal ok.

But at the end problem, phone automatically power off by it self, if baterry is somewhere at 5-15% full, or sometimes it power off when i try to use cydia, or to run some cracked application, very strange...

Problem is that phone won't power on after powered off by itself, when i press power on button , it stuck on apple logo, and i have to connect iphone 3g with pc, just after this action it pass apple logo and phone power on again !?

I read about this stucking at apple logo is related to thetered jailbreak etc.?

I don't know is this version of iBoot is tethered or untethered iBoot-596.24 , and is this problem with automatically powering off related to iboot version?

Phone is jailbreaked with redsn0w_win_0.9.5b5-4 - latest version, OS 4, baseband 5.13.04 .

I tried to downgrade phone from OS 4.0 to 3.1.3 version, but i don't know is it possible to crack Iphone 3G 3.1.3 version with some tool like snowbreeze, fuzzyband, blackr1in, etc.?

Maybe downgrading will solve this problem, or maybe this is problem with iBoot-596.24 and isn't possible to solve...

My question is is this iBoot-596.24 tethered or untethered ?

Tnx!

p.s.

i couldn't use spirit jailbreak, cause phone is buyed out of my country - second hand, and i don't have original sim card, phone is sim unlocked for my sim card.
 
Turning off when your battery is at 5-10% sounds like a sensor calibration problem. Just plug it in, charge to full, leave it charging for two more hours, then unplug and use normally until the battery is drained and it turns off automatically. Then charge it up to full +2 again. That should recalibrate your battery sensor so that it will give accurate readings for remaining charge.

As for your second problem, that is strange. The first thing I would say is don't steal apps. Installing cracked apps is not only wrong, it can mess up your phone. Second, many Cydia packages have not yet been updated to work with 4.0, and many of those can cause problems with your phone. Winterboard in particular can put your phone in a recovery loop. If you would like to know which apps are known to be working, check out this spreadsheet. Be careful what you install, or you might end up in a boot loop you won't be able to get out of without restoring.

ETA: No 3G has a tethered jailbreak.
 
Turning off when your battery is at 5-10% sounds like a sensor calibration problem. Just plug it in, charge to full, leave it charging for two more hours, then unplug and use normally until the battery is drained and it turns off automatically. Then charge it up to full +2 again. That should recalibrate your battery sensor so that it will give accurate readings for remaining charge.

As for your second problem, that is strange. The first thing I would say is don't steal apps. Installing cracked apps is not only wrong, it can mess up your phone. Second, many Cydia packages have not yet been updated to work with 4.0, and many of those can cause problems with your phone. Winterboard in particular can put your phone in a recovery loop. If you would like to know which apps are known to be working, check out this spreadsheet. Be careful what you install, or you might end up in a boot loop you won't be able to get out of without restoring.

ETA: No 3G has a tethered jailbreak.

Yes i read somwhere that all IPHONE 3G are untethered, i just ask to be sure, cause here are many good experts, and with more quality answers than on another places :) ... I doubt that this iBoot version is maybe problematic...


Thanks very much for your explanation and suggestions! I really do not know why this is happening because I never had similar experiences like this now!

Maybe you're right that the sensor calibration cause, because it is sometimes strange when iPhone is connected to a computer, iphone shows 5% battery provides full, even though the iPhone fill 30-40 minutes, but after a period when i connect - Disconnect the iPhone, battery status changes to 90% .. I do not really know why the iPhone 3G itself off, I do not know what could cause this?

I did not actually install the application too, just sync app for OS 4.0 from source cydia.hackulo.us, I needed it to install igo my way 2009 ... Tnx for this google. Doc! I'll take this in my mind...

I do not know what's with this version iBoot, whether it can make a problem with the jailbreak redsnow?


I tried 2-3x restore OS 4.0 and then jailbreak again with redsnow-last version, Unlocking the ultrsnow later, but again the problem with switching off, this happens independent, sometimes, not just after 5, 10 or 15 minutes, sometimes whole night phone is switched on, and only tomorrow day it switch off from unknown reasons!

If you have some experience with the iPhone and itself switching off, post here...

Strange thing is that i have always to CONNECT IPHONE TO PC, to be able power on again, this seems like on tethered iphones, even iphone 3g is't tethered... This is ver dificult, to connect always iphone 3g to pc , after rebooting...

Thanks for your help and sugesstions!

Greeting
 
Hi guys,

I m planning to buy a iphone but i m pretty much new to this.
So can someone please explain me what is the difference between a untethered and tethered iphone.

Didn't find anything specific anywhere so asking here.
 
I know people have been asking all over the board, so here's the answer, courtesy phoeny at the Dev-Team blog:

How to check your iPhone's bootrom using Windows:

Put your iPhone into DFU mode (how to/tutorial for this step at iClarified).

Then go to Start -> Control Panel -> System -> Hardware -> Device Manager on your Windows machine.

Look for 'Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller', you will find 'Apple Mobile Device USB Driver' as a subitem there.

Right Click and choose 'Properties', navigate to 'Details' tab and select Device Instance Path from the dropdown list box. At the end of this information string you will find the bootrom version, e.g. [iBoot-359.x].

First off, i have the 3Gs version and JB with blackra1n on 3.1.2 OS with FW 05.11.07 and running on TMo.

when following this procedure, i didn't find the iBoot-359.x info. instead i have this:

appledeviceinstanceid.jpg


or did i do something wrong?
 
First off, i have the 3Gs version and JB with blackra1n on 3.1.2 OS with FW 05.11.07 and running on TMo.

when following this procedure, i didn't find the iBoot-359.x info. instead i have this:

appledeviceinstanceid.jpg


or did i do something wrong?

I had exactly the same problem and thought I was going mad.

No option to choose "Device path id" in the drop down menu. I also tried usbview with no luck.

In the end I followed the post above and downloaded the system information view. I can confirm that this worked as it says in the tin and I found out that I have the tethered iboot :(

Thanks to the person that placed the link in the first place
 
First off, i have the 3Gs version and JB with blackra1n on 3.1.2 OS with FW 05.11.07 and running on TMo.

when following this procedure, i didn't find the iBoot-359.x info. instead i have this:

appledeviceinstanceid.jpg


or did i do something wrong?

I'm pretty sure this is the result you get when you don't have the iPhone in DFU mode.
 
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