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Terrible UI. Make something better and colorful.

Green bar means healthy.

Red bad means not healthy.

Orange means mid-range.

Do something like this:
 

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Terrible UI. Make something better and colorful.

Green bar means healthy.

Red bad means not healthy.

Orange means mid-range.

Do something like this:

Seriously, I'm shocked this is the final roll out of the design for this feature. I was expecting a nice progress bar with green to red color indicators of your battery health.

People are dumb these days, expecting a question like: "Since it says 95%, that means my battery can only be charged up to 95%?"
 
Your phone is fine. The OS power management "feature" is not.

Next steps?

1. Implement user accessible fix
2. Manufacture more unexpected shut downs.
3. Require user to reset switch manually every time.
4. Sell more phones.

I'm no less cynical about this issue after seeing the work around.

Anyone who continues to purchase a phone by apple deserves each other.
 
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“...but throttling does not kick in until the battery becomes severely degraded”

Maybe I’ve just got a bad phone, but my battery health is 88%(info from Apple) and my iPhone 6s is throttled very often... To me, 88% shouldn’t warrant the kind of throttling that they are doing. It’s especially not “severely degraded.”

I get the optimal experience argument with the shut off issue, but it seems like the throttling is more prominent than they say it is and sugar coating their power issues is just letting them get away with it.

Yes, Apple has been sneaky. At least now they give you the control. Apple didn’t want to do this.
 
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Please tell me the screenshots used in the article are doctored.

Why in the hell would a battery with 95% 'maximum capacity' not be able to provide enough peak power to prevent an iPhone from shutting down?! I see that the battery at 100% 'maximum capacity' is fine. When do these shutdowns become a problem, then? When the battery is at 99% 'maximum capacity'?

I hope Apple develops some amazing battery tech over the next couple of years because it seems clear that the Li-ion batteries we've depended on for years were not designed to deliver the type of power that the portable computers we carry with us require for more than a year or two at most.
 
Well what many are forgetting is that older hardware just can’t keep up with the latest software too. So it’s battery in part, but the rapid pace of processor advancements is to blame as well. An iPhone X is just more capable than a 6s. The same is true of 3 year old Androids compared to the latest Androids.
? My SE is new and I upgraded from 9.x to 11.2 . I ran Antutu benchmark and it was essentially the same speed as the iOS 9.x that it came on. The SE is pretty much the 6s hardware, yes?
 
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Hmm, I know the power management is different on iPads and newer iPhones, but I thought we’d still get the % degredation in battery max capacity, but nope, not on my Air 2.
 
“...but throttling does not kick in until the battery becomes severely degraded”

Maybe I’ve just got a bad phone, but my battery health is 88%(info from Apple) and my iPhone 6s is throttled very often... To me, 88% shouldn’t warrant the kind of throttling that they are doing. It’s especially not “severely degraded.”

I get the optimal experience argument with the shut off issue, but it seems like the throttling is more prominent than they say it is and sugar coating their power issues is just letting them get away with it.
How do you know your phone is being throttled?
 
“...but throttling does not kick in until the battery becomes severely degraded”

Maybe I’ve just got a bad phone, but my battery health is 88%(info from Apple) and my iPhone 6s is throttled very often... To me, 88% shouldn’t warrant the kind of throttling that they are doing. It’s especially not “severely degraded.”

I get the optimal experience argument with the shut off issue, but it seems like the throttling is more prominent than they say it is and sugar coating their power issues is just letting them get away with it.

Exaxtly - my 6+ battery is at 85% but is having serious performance issues. This is all a massive lie and cover up. If a car company did this it would be an international scandal.
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Liking the info on max capacity. This should eliminate most, if not all those fake battery apps as well.

Of course, people will still whine and moan on this, even though Apple already offer replacement for $29.

Yeah but you gotta wait til March to replace it.
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Your phone is fine. The OS power management "feature" is not.

Next steps?

1. Implement user accessible fix
2. Manufacture more unexpected shut downs.
3. Require user to reset switch manually every time.
4. Sell more phones.

I'm no less cynical about this issue after seeing the work around.

That’s spot on - some people refuse to believe that Apple has become corrupt despite it being caught with its pants down. I want Apple to come back strong, but it needs a new messiah to oust all the corruption.
 
Why do I have this uneasy feeling that we're still not getting 100% when they say it's 100%?
What are you talking about?
On that status bar up top it 100% of whatever the battery is capable of at it's age. It won't show you 80% max if you battery can only hold 80% of it's original charge. Is that what you mean?
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Exaxtly - my 6+ battery is at 85% but is having serious performance issues. This is all a massive lie and cover up. If a car company did this it would be an international scandal.
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Yeah but you gotta wait til March to replace it.
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That’s spot on - some people refuse to believe that Apple has become corrupt despite it being caught with its pants down. I want Apple to come back strong, but it needs a new messiah to oust all the corruption.
I can't decide between laughing or facepalming.
 
Question... did anybody check whether older phones disabled this ‘feature’ in previous versions if you bought a new battery?

Be interesting to know whether the reasoning is solid or whether they were slowing down freshly opened iPhones from the previous generation (which they were often still selling).

If you have an iPhone X and smash it hard for like 3 months (e.g. plugged in 24/7 running at full brightness, smashing the CPU with 3D graphics, sound up full, bluetooth/wifi both constantly transferring stuff, 4G constantly downloading and GPS constantly checking your coordinates) would they slow down the iPhone X if the battery was worn out?
 
? My SE is new and I upgraded from 9.x to 11.2 . I ran Antutu benchmark and it was essentially the same speed as the iOS 9.x that it came on. The SE is pretty much the 6s hardware, yes?
Well of course the benchmark would say that. It would also be the same for the 6s in benchmarks, or any device for that matter. Because the benchmark measures the raw processor speed only. But when an app is updated to take advantage of faster processors, the older processors cannot keep up, even if the old hardware is still “fresh”. Benchmarks are irrelevant to actual usage. A brand new original iPhone, in theory, would benchmark the same today as in 2007 assuming all the components were brand new, but could never run a modern app. The same is true of the 6s. A app that runs perfectly on an iPhone X may run poorly on an iPhone 6s, even if both sets of hardware were manufactured on the exact same date. The only way to never experience a slow down is to buy the phone on launch day, never use the phone and never update the apps. And even then factors such as newer web standards would render the device obsolete over time. It is the nature of technology. End of story.
 
I’m a figure skating coach so I spent a lot of time in a cold ice rink. As any skater can tell you, that’s a ripe situation for unexpected shutdowns. The irony is that while my phone is playing music, it’s fine, but sometimes as soon as I stop the music, the iPhone enters a lower power state which suddenly doesn’t use the battery enough and it shuts down. So in a cold environment, CPU throttling will actually make it more susceptible to random shutdowns.
 
I’m a figure skating coach so I spent a lot of time in a cold ice rink. As any skater can tell you, that’s a ripe situation for unexpected shutdowns. The irony is that while my phone is playing music, it’s fine, but sometimes as soon as I stop the music, the iPhone enters a lower power state which suddenly doesn’t use the battery enough and it shuts down. So in a cold environment, CPU throttling will actually make it more susceptible to random shutdowns.
Hence Apple’s guidelines for the proper temperature to operate the phone, printed right in that paperwork no one ever looks at.
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It’s not true I have never experienced any unexpected shutdown on any of my older iPhones. Even though I have older iPhones with degraded batteries.
Happened all the time on my 6 Plus. But then there are many variables that affect battery health such as extreme temperatures, physical impacts to the device, such as dropping it (the 6 plus was very durable, on the outside, but you can’t really see what a drop does to the inside). Etc.
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Agreed. Batteries do wear out. I'm familiar with the effects of use, disuse, and temperature on different battery chemistries.

Apple throttles phones with batteries that are not worn out. Unreconcilable.
False. An iPhone 6S purchased new today has the same processor speed as a 6S purchased three years ago on launch day was back then. Several people have run benchmarks on here and found this to be the case. So why does everything seem slower? The apps today just demand more processor power. That’s life.
 
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Well of course the benchmark would say that. It would also be the same for the 6s in benchmarks, or any device for that matter. Because the benchmark measures the raw processor speed only. But when an app is updated to take advantage of faster processors, the older processors cannot keep up, even if the old hardware is still “fresh”. Benchmarks are irrelevant to actual usage. A brand new original iPhone, in theory, would benchmark the same today as in 2007 assuming all the components were brand new, but could never run a modern app. The same is true of the 6s. A app that runs perfectly on an iPhone X may run poorly on an iPhone 6s, even if both sets of hardware were manufactured on the exact same date. The only way to never experience a slow down is to buy the phone on launch day, never use the phone and never update the apps. And even then factors such as newer web standards would render the device obsolete over time. It is the nature of technology. End of story.

May be end of some story but not this one. My new SE is not lagging, can play the streaming apps, use the browser, text and call just fine on iOS 11. Based on the posts in these forums, I wouldn’t dare to try the same with my 6s that has almost 500 cycles in a little over a year.
 
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