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I have had so many people yell at me as I try and help them with their computer troubles that they wished something like resume existed.

Now it exists and some of these sane people are yelling at me that it does.

People just have so much trouble not freaking out at something new.

Well it is kinda win for both sides. The feature now exists for those that want it and the feature can be disabled for those that don't.
 
Huh... not the most elegant key combination to have to press. Fortunately, I think I'll like Resume (although I haven't installed Lion on my computer yet... I figure I'll give it a few versions to iron out the bugs before I move over to it.)
It's not too hard to hit Cmd and Option at the same time with your thumb. It doesn't seem so bad to me.

Or maybe I just have a weird thumb, a childhood of piano lessons, and years of practice with Adobe's occasionally "inelegant" shortcuts.
 
I generally think I like the feature, but with Preview and Quicktime X it's a total pain to me. Images and videos keep piling up because I don't think to first close the window and then hit Cmd+Q.
 
I think it's a great feature once you've figured out how to turn it off by default... :D

The great thing is the alternate shortcut works both ways, so when it is turned off by default, command + option + q will resume the app next time you start it while command + q now has the old functionality.

Me likey.
 
I'm a bit surprised to see all these people sharing their user accounts in OS X with others in the family, yet still worry about the 'online banking' activities being discovered. Do you remember to clear history in Safari as well? How about the 'recent items' list in QuickTime?

Oh, and btw, my wife already knows my taste in 'bank accounts', simply because I told her. :D
 
this will be one of the first things I turn off when i install shortly

It annoy me when any app has this feature and automatically opens the last document edited
 
Oh, and btw, my wife already knows my taste in 'bank accounts', simply because I told her. :D

that's the way to do it. my gf and i have similar taste in online banking anyway so i don't think anything would surprise her :)
 
You know if you close the window or document by clicking the red traffic light it doesnt open up again right?
 
I'm not running Lion yet, but I've read that holding down the shift key whilst launching an app disables resume.

Oh, and if your online bank shows up after restarting a browser, I'd switch banks now. ;)
 
I assumed this would stop apps remembering what you last did

I turned off the tick
went into text edit
typed something in and closed it

each time I open textedit the text I entered is still there

how do I get it so it doesn't save what I just did
 
Resume will be useful if you adapt your workflow: close windows and documents, not apps.

Unlike previous OS's Lion wants to manage app state automatically while leaving the documents to you. If you continue to try to manage app state, you're going to continue to be frustrated.

(note: I'm not expressing an opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing. Just telling you how to get along with Lion, if you want to.)
 
Resume will be useful if you adapt your workflow: close windows and documents, not apps.

Unlike previous OS's Lion wants to manage app state automatically while leaving the documents to you. If you continue to try to manage app state, you're going to continue to be frustrated.

Exactly. And while at this point most applications don't support to be automatically terminated by the system, Preview.app, TextEdit and Quicktime Player most certainly do. So there shouldn't be a need to hit Cmd+Q for them at all.

Safari's web content process, as another example, seems to be terminated about a minute after you've closed the last Safari window.
 
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Resume will be useful if you adapt your workflow: close windows and documents, not apps.

Unlike previous OS's Lion wants to manage app state automatically while leaving the documents to you. If you continue to try to manage app state, you're going to continue to be frustrated.

(note: I'm not expressing an opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing. Just telling you how to get along with Lion, if you want to.)

I don't want to get along with Lion, I generally think it's a bad update. I just want to make when I'm inevitably forced to go there to maintain compatibility with other things to turn off as many of it's bad design choices as possible. Killing resume is top of that list, it'll be the very first thing I do after installation.

Phazer
 
The "option + command + q" shortcut also work with resume disabled. This way, you can have it disabled most of the time, and when you for some reason want to restore your "online banking" press option + command + q.
 
turn off as many of it's bad design choices as possible

How exactly have Apple made "bad design choices" here? It seems, at this point, most people are annoyed either because they don't really understand the feature, don't want to unlearn old habits to re-learn new, generally more sensible ones, or can't accept that it takes application developers time to adopt the feature in their own application.
 
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Resume will be useful if you adapt your workflow: close windows and documents, not apps.

But not every app is a "Document" or "Windows" paradigm. And seriously, sometimes, it's just that much quicker to just quit the app than close all the documents opened in it.
 
So what implications does this feature have on everyday pornography consumption?

Seriously, though, I'd love this feature if I could manually configure which applications use it. Would be even sweeter if it could restore after crashes, like Firefox does.
 
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But not every app is a "Document" or "Windows" paradigm. And seriously, sometimes, it's just that much quicker to just quit the app than close all the documents opened in it.

I think that's just because we're so used to hitting CMD+Q. Time to unlearn "bad" habits...If you want to have your windows closed, close your windows. From a UX standpoint, there's no good reason why quitting an app should make it lose its state and and discard all windows. Same thing with restarting the computer, especially after a forced update. Ideally you'd want to be back exactly where you left off.

So what implications does this feature have on everday pornography consumption?

Same thing applies. Close your windows people. (Or use Safari's Private Browsing Mode) :p
 
How exactly have Apple made "bad design choices" here? It seems, at this point, most people are annoyed either because they don't really understand the feature, don't want to unlearn old habits to re-learn new, generally more sensible ones, or can't accept that it takes application developers time to adopt the feature in their own application.

NOTE: Please remember the below are subjective opinions. But there are a fair few of us who share them.

1) Lion's gestures are massively inferior for fast navigation around programmes with multiple windows compared to Snow Leopard's
2) Mission control is like expose but worse in every possible way.
3) Resume makes memory management more difficult, and Apple wanted to make the need to manage memory irrelevant then they've failed.
4) Most people live in a shared household, have some form of privacy issues, and resume makes that incredibly difficult.
5) Most of the UX has had the colour pulled out of it, requiring more neurological processing to determine where things are and making it more of a chore to use.
6) Scroll bars were good. They told you how far down a page you were without having to move a mouse over.

Just about the only UX change in Lion I think is an improvement rather than a regression is being able to resize windows from any edge. And aside from killing resume most of these cannot be switched back at present.

Phazer
 
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