I don't think it is hard to move those functions to some system level daemon.
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How to Hide Default Apps on iOS 9 Using Limited Trick
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I don't think it is hard to move those functions to some system level daemon.
3.4GB is the space iOS takes up in total, and 100MB is what I'd guess is the average amount of storage you'd save if you wanted to delete a handful of stock apps that you don't use.
I've just checked on the App Store for some Apple app sizes as I assume they are comparable to the stock apps. Find My iPhone is 5.9MB and Find My Friends is 6.1MB
Storage saving is really a funny argument. A way to hide them is fine.
If apps like imovie and garageband were stock then id agree that deleting should be an option.
For some apps, I understand why they cannot be removed. They are more than just an app, they are an integrated feature of the OS and removing them would cripple other major functionality. I don't hear anyone asking for ways to remove Messages or Phone, for example. I think Calendar, Reminders, Notes, Stocks, iTunes Store, FaceTime, Clock, Compass, Wallet, Contacts, Videos, Mail, Music, iBooks, Find Friends, Find iPhone, News, Health, and Camera are examples of this. Removing them would seriously break some part of iOS. However, it should be possible hide the icon.
Other apps, I cannot fathom how they are necessary like the above. For example: Podcasts, Calculator, Tips, Watch, Voice Memos, etc. Those seems to have little to no tie-ins with the OS, and could easily exist as standalone apps.
Other apps, I cannot fathom how they are necessary like the above. For example: Podcasts, Calculator, Tips, Watch, Voice Memos, etc. Those seems to have little to no tie-ins with the OS, and could easily exist as standalone apps.
I really don't understand why people get so worked up about this. Just put all your unwanted icons in a folder, stick the folder on the 'last' page of your home screen where you never need to scroll and be done with it.
Jeez. It's the same as a car owner going to a Ford dealership and demanding they rip out the 3.5mm AUX jack because they only ever use Bluetooth to play music. Get a bit of perspective...
Jeez. It's the same as a car owner going to a Ford dealership and demanding they rip out the 3.5mm AUX jack because they only ever use Bluetooth to play music. Get a bit of perspective...
They have...but in typical [New] Apple style it takes seven steps, instead of one, and it's not finished.
Yep, that's what I do: create a folder named "Useless", store everything useless in it and move to the last page.
It's clear from your other post that you don't have an iPhone, but let me put 16GB devices into perspective for you. 100MB is less than 1% of available storage on a 16GB iPhone. Besides, those people bought a 16GB device.
A lot of the space is gobbled up by
). My 8GB phone has 6.3GB of usable storage + 64GB on microSD.Space is more of a premium on iPhone since you can't add a microSD. So I understand why some people want to remove rather than merely hide default apps.
One word: Jailbreak.
Because for a company that brags about paying attention to every detail/minute of their platform, this is one that's been sorely overlooked for a VERY long time. And no one is asking for any hardware changes on sold devices. This is a simple software fix.
A lot of the space is gobbled up bybloatwaredefault apps which takes up more than 100MB of space. I've got android 4.4.4 (i like the stability of Jelly Bean) and only the essential default apps (playstore...that's it
Space is more of a premium on iPhone since you can't add a microSD. So I understand why some people want to remove rather than merely hide default apps.
One word: Jailbreak.
I think you have your wires crossed, there's bloat then there's stock apps, two separate things.
On Android, bloat can take up gigabytes of storage, stock apps only take up a small amount of space.
People will refer to bloat on iPhones but it's really not bloat at all, it's just stock apps they won't use. Bloat tends to be paid for 3rd party apps that take up serious space (see that graphic I posted)
And if you jailbreak and start removing stock apps chances are you are going to break your phone.
It depends upon what you consider useful. If it ain't useful, it's bloatware. I consider all of Google's default apps (Gmail, Maps, Streetview, Weather and so on) bloat, except for Playstore. That's essential. Add the manufacturer's garbage and it's extra bloated.
Jailbreaking/rooting ain't for the faint of heart. Of course, those who know what they're doing can get a nice boost in performance. It's just like how a skilled mechanic can squeeze extra donkeys out of a car engine with a bit of tinkering.
I used a rooted Galaxy S for well over 5 years and it ran all the apps and games I needed (including minecraft, which I play too much). I would have continued using it if my kid hadn't smashed the screen.
Now I've got a Moto G (inherited from the Missus and rooted) and it runs smoother (not faster, but smoother) than my wife's bloated and unrooted Nexus 6.
This has been said many times on similar threads, but I'll restate it.
Deleting default apps on iOS isn't as simple as it sounds, because most (not all, granted) of them, aren't just app. The apps are directly tied with frameworks and libraries that make up the OS, and if for example a Chrome user wanted to delete Safari, they'd also be deleting APIs like WebViews for third party applications.
Deleting default apps on iOS isn't as simple as it sounds, because most (not all, granted) of them, aren't just app. The apps are directly tied with frameworks and libraries that make up the OS, and if for example a Chrome user wanted to delete Safari, they'd also be deleting APIs like WebViews for third party applications.
If you don't use these apps, let me tell you that all you need is a flip phone. Seriously!
That depends, maybe he lives in a warm country, weather is always fine, has great memory, is a pensioner so he doesn't need a calendar and doesn't care about video nor photo's, doesn't play games, has no stocks.
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Seems like a pain in the backside. I just dump them in a folder on its own home screen and have done with it.
Simple solution. 3D touch on an app and select hide. Problem solved, but no Apple knows better as always. wtf ...
Okay, I get it. People like to have their phone's screen be tidy. And people would love to get rid of everything they don't use, even if it would save all of 100MB. And Apple really should provide an option to at least hide the built-in apps you don't want. I personally would use it if they did.
But is it really that awful to just stick all the apps you don't want into a single folder and then stick it in some unloved square in the 24 app grid you have to chose from on the page you use least? I admit I have a lot of apps on my phone, but the first thing I did was cram all the built-ins I didn't want into a single folder and stick it up towards the top of page 3, where it's never bothered me even slightly. Heck, when at some point I wanted to check out one of the apps (Health, I think), it took me a while to even find it.
But is it really that awful to just stick all the apps you don't want into a single folder and then stick it in some unloved square in the 24 app grid you have to chose from on the page you use least? I admit I have a lot of apps on my phone, but the first thing I did was cram all the built-ins I didn't want into a single folder and stick it up towards the top of page 3, where it's never bothered me even slightly. Heck, when at some point I wanted to check out one of the apps (Health, I think), it took me a while to even find it.
That depends, maybe he lives in a warm country, weather is always fine, has great memory, is a pensioner so he doesn't need a calendar and doesn't care about video nor photo's, doesn't play games, has no stocks.
"Portable Landlines."
they're gonna be HUGE, i tells ya!
This is the discussion to have, and certainly suggests why a 'hide' option is far more practical than an 'uninstall' option.
From my usage, I don't see why stocks, Tips, or Apple Watch are integral; those I would like to outright delete.
Contacts seems duplicative -- I always go through 'Phone' -- so could stand to be at least hidden.
Weather and Calculator are both replaced in my typical usage by apps I like better, but I see how they are integral to Siri functionality, so again that's a 'hide' for me.
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No, it's not that hard. What I didn't like when I had a 16GB phone was running out of space from photos and music and knowing hat there were these stupid stock apps I never used that could keep the annoying "not enough storage" alert from popping up whenever I went to take a photo of my kids. (And yeah, I get that I would have just filled that space with more photos and had the same storage problem, but to me my photos are more worthwhile than Stocks or Tips).
As for finding the apps, you need to start using the pull-down search or Siri: Launch _____.
It's a minor inconvenience visually, but these apps still show up in the Spotlight results and this is very frustrating to have your workflow impeded by those. Or maybe I'm the only one using Spotlight to launch apps on my iPhone in a few seconds by avoiding swiping through pages and folders.
That's the thing, though; based on the size of other stocks apps on the App store, Apple's is consuming maybe 5MB at most. Podcasts, which has an App Store listing, is about 13MB. Find Friends and Find Phone each 6MB. iBooks is 31MB. As you noted, Videos, Weather, Voice Memos, Contacts are probably pretty integrated into system services, so deleting them would save very little, but either way they're probably in that same size range.
The point being, even if you were allowed to delete every Apple-supplied app other than Mail, Safari, and Music--and did--you'd probably save 100MB at most. Which is a rather small amount of storage even on a 16GB device (~0.75% of available after the OS). Yes, it's something, but it's not going to make any noticeable difference if you're already getting "not enough storage" warnings.
That's of course what I did when I couldn't find it. My point was that I was surprised that I couldn't seem to find it visually, despite being on the third screen of four and having swiped by it a thousand times.
Keep in mind that on top of the OS itself taking up a fair bit of that used space, 16 GB (as an advertised capacity) doesn't actually give you 16 GB of usable space.