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I applied some common logic, high IQ and an experience of software development :) And a test using a photo of iWatch in front of iPhone camera :)

Well, look at the big brain on Brad!

So, was your test successful? Did the photo of the Apple Watch have enough verisimilitude to fool the companion app? I'm guessing you didn't get very far in your test.

Here's the test I want to see: Once you have an actual Apple Watch in hand, try the pairing process. However, instead of showing it your new watch, you show it the photo. If it still pairs, I'll be convinced.
 
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Interesting - I wonder how that camera pairing system works? I'd assume it has little to do with the camera itself and more to do with the Bluetooth connection underneath. Still an intriguing way to pair the two devices.

The camera likely just picks up the numbers from the pin code for Bluetooth off of the watch screen similar to how it picks up the numbers on the credit card for Apple pay. Basically it's just Bluetooth pairing without having to manually enter the pin
 
The camera likely just picks up the numbers from the pin code for Bluetooth off of the watch screen similar to how it picks up the numbers on the credit card for Apple pay. Basically it's just Bluetooth pairing without having to manually enter the pin

Ahh I see - the picture is what threw me off. I saw the pic of the Apple Watch home screen. It would make sense that the Apple Watch would display a unique PIN code that the iPhone's camera then picks up during the pairing.
 
The camera likely just picks up the numbers from the pin code for Bluetooth off of the watch screen similar to how it picks up the numbers on the credit card for Apple pay. Basically it's just Bluetooth pairing without having to manually enter the pin

Stop making sense.
 
Maybe you're trying to say, "no stand alone apps"? They're definitely native to the device.

I would assume some of Apple's apps are indeed stand alone and not just an extension. I haven't heard anything about third parties having that opportunity but Apple says that someday we will.

Yes, I was referring to this part of the article "Later this year, Apple will allow developers to begin developing apps that will run natively on the Apple Watch.". So there won't be apps (from third parties, don't know about Apple's apps) which run natively on Apple Watch. Therefore they are just extensions (Watch extensions) from the corresponding iPhone app. I assume the Apple Watch app's App Store is just listing all iPhone apps which contain Watch extensions. And later this year there will be Apple Watch apps which only can be find in the Apple Watch app's App Store.
 
But no native apps. These are just extensions from regular iOS apps. Am I missing something?

These watch extensions are paired with an iPhone app for communication. There is significant code and functionality within the watch extension apps though.

It's not just 'ping you have something on FB'
 
These watch extensions are paired with an iPhone app for communication. There is significant code and functionality within the watch extension apps though.

It's not just 'ping you have something on FB'

I know. That wasn't my point. I just wanted to mention that at first there won't be "real Watch apps" because they belong to the corresponding iPhone app. E.g. Evernote will push an update to it's existing app and done. Or there will be apps with no real function on iPhone and are just used for delivering the Watch extension. At first all these functionalities are for extending iPhone apps.
 
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Does anyone know if the heart monitor will at least record the data without the phone then when you get home it will display?

I do something similar with my iPhone GPS with cellular off. I go hiking while using RunKeeper and the GPS still records the data. I don't get map data because cellular is turned off but once I turn cellular back on the map data loads and I can see my hiking history.

Technically the heart monitor should be able to capture data without the phone.
 
Does anyone know if the heart monitor will at least record the data without the phone then when you get home it will display?

I do something similar with my iPhone GPS with cellular off. I go hiking while using RunKeeper and the GPS still records the data. I don't get map data because cellular is turned off but once I turn cellular back on the map data loads and I can see my hiking history.

Technically the heart monitor should be able to capture data without the phone.

I'm pretty sure it does, I can't remember where I read this. You can do your workout without your iPhone and later it will sync all the data (heart rate, calories burned, etc.).
 
My guess is that distance you put your watch from the phone when you take that picture is prime distance for NFC. Otherwise, you can pair with Bluetooth. A QR code seems to clumsy for Apple. Plus you don't have to be that close for a QR code to work.
 
Disappointed

Although I was very impressed with the Apple Watch when it was first introduced (how long ago was that anyway, seems like for ever), I have to say that I am very disappointed in the fact that you can only pair the watch with the iPhone.

I sort of understand the reason, but I purchased a top of the line WiFi/3G iPad Air 2 for myself for Christmas thinking I would be able to use that as my base, after all it can do everything an iPhone can do, its just a bit chunkier to carry around. Now that I know that the Watch requires the iPhone...I feel kind of jipped.

Anyone here any rumors at all on whether Apple may open the Watch up for use with 3G models of the Air/Air2?
 
Although I was very impressed with the Apple Watch when it was first introduced (how long ago was that anyway, seems like for ever), I have to say that I am very disappointed in the fact that you can only pair the watch with the iPhone.

I sort of understand the reason, but I purchased a top of the line WiFi/3G iPad Air 2 for myself for Christmas thinking I would be able to use that as my base, after all it can do everything an iPhone can do, its just a bit chunkier to carry around. Now that I know that the Watch requires the iPhone...I feel kind of jipped.

Anyone here any rumors at all on whether Apple may open the Watch up for use with 3G models of the Air/Air2?

It was announced in September that the watch would require an iPhone. Should have done your research.
 
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It was announced in September that the watch would require an iPhone. Should have done your research.

Ouch...first post on the forum and someone tells be i did something stupid...good thing i have a thick skin :)

Anyway, to be clear, i didnt purchase the Air 2 because of the Watch, but because my iPad 2 was in very poor shape and was due for a new one.

thanks for the comment seiman...
 
It's just a funky UI gimmick. It doesn't recognize anything when you show a picture of a watch to this app. Clearly it searches instead for Bluetooth for pairing.

Doubt it....I have no clue how it works. But no way apple makes u line up the watch screen for no reason at all, just for a gimmick. There is definitely more to it.
 
Although I was very impressed with the Apple Watch when it was first introduced (how long ago was that anyway, seems like for ever), I have to say that I am very disappointed in the fact that you can only pair the watch with the iPhone.

I sort of understand the reason, but I purchased a top of the line WiFi/3G iPad Air 2 for myself for Christmas thinking I would be able to use that as my base, after all it can do everything an iPhone can do, its just a bit chunkier to carry around. Now that I know that the Watch requires the iPhone...I feel kind of jipped.

Anyone here any rumors at all on whether Apple may open the Watch up for use with 3G models of the Air/Air2?

I doubt it. And Im not thrilled it has to be paired with an iPhone either. But I understand and accept that at this point and time, it kinda has to be.

An iPad isn't really meant to be with u at all times like the iPhone is. And although it could be plausible, It actually sounds silly to be able to pair the watch with an iPad. I don't know why, it just does imho.
 
Well, look at the big brain on Brad!

So, was your test successful? Did the photo of the Apple Watch have enough verisimilitude to fool the companion app? I'm guessing you didn't get very far in your test.

Here's the test I want to see: Once you have an actual Apple Watch in hand, try the pairing process. However, instead of showing it your new watch, you show it the photo. If it still pairs, I'll be convinced.

Always upvote Pulp Fiction. Also, I like the rest of what you said.

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I'm pretty sure it does, I can't remember where I read this. You can do your workout without your iPhone and later it will sync all the data (heart rate, calories burned, etc.).

I took it from the Apple videos. No way all those people exercising have their iPhones tucked into their socks.
 
My guess is that distance you put your watch from the phone when you take that picture is prime distance for NFC. Otherwise, you can pair with Bluetooth. A QR code seems to clumsy for Apple. Plus you don't have to be that close for a QR code to work.

I think this is the best guess so far... Except that it would only with with the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus.
 
My guess is that distance you put your watch from the phone when you take that picture is prime distance for NFC. Otherwise, you can pair with Bluetooth. A QR code seems to clumsy for Apple. Plus you don't have to be that close for a QR code to work.

No, it will surely be a Bluetooth pairing and the camera will read something off the watch screen. That seems painfully obvious to me. I don't think it will be a 4 digit pin, or a QR code exactly, but an Apple-designed image or animation that hides a unique code.

If it was NFC they'd say touch the devices together, and make a big play about how personal and intimate that is, but NFC is out anyway.

By reading off the screen your phone can identify your watch in a room full of other watches without you having to fiddle around picking meaningless device IDs from a list. That might be important if the sales process involves pairing the watch in store.
 
Still waiting to hear if there's some kind of activation lock to make stealing watch off someones wrist less of a tempting target..
 
If it does just display the home screen, I'm betting the way the watch displays the apps (size, position, colour) would represent the pin. And the camera reads it.
 
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