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No, it's not like Amazon at all. If I buy a book at Amazon, I can give it to my 11 year old when I'm done without her having to sign on to my account. If I buy a song through iTunes, the only way I can share it with my child is to have her on my account (or buy it twice).

That's not what I was talking about. I wasn't talking about sharing. I was talking about a visible purchase history. People are expressing outrage that Apple shows your entire purchase history to you. So does Amazon.
 
Or an option to hide 17+ material in your account.

That wouldn't be enough though. I downloaded a really crap app which was supposed to be an optical illusion viewer. It was actually a series of numbered folders with numbered image files that was totally unbrowseable, offered no clue as to what each image contained, and didn't allow you to record which ones you had viewed. It was absolute garbage of the worst kind, and a 9-year old kid could have developed a better app.

It had no age limits, but regardless of this, the crux is that I never want to see that app again, and to have it appear on the list of deleted apps as if I might change my mind is infuriating and pointless in the extreme.

Neither do I want to be reminded of all the free egg-timers and spirit levels that I tried out before I found anything even remotely haf-decent.
 
you know as soon as they implement a feature to remove apps from your history people will complain that the don't want to have to pay again to download a app because itunes doensn't know you already bought it.
 
you know as soon as they implement a feature to remove apps from your history people will complain that the don't want to have to pay again to download a app because itunes doensn't know you already bought it.

iTunes can still know you bought the app while still hiding certain apps.
 
That's not what I was talking about. I wasn't talking about sharing. I was talking about a visible purchase history. People are expressing outrage that Apple shows your entire purchase history to you. So does Amazon.

People are unhappy that Apple shows your entire purchase history to you and to anybody else who uses your Apple ID. That's the issue. Amazon is not an apt comparison because there isn't a compelling reason to share your Amazon ID with anyone else, as there is with your Apple ID.
 
People are unhappy that Apple shows your entire purchase history to you and to anybody else who uses your Apple ID. That's the issue. Amazon is not an apt comparison because there isn't a compelling reason to share your Amazon ID with anyone else, as there is with your Apple ID.

Actually, it's just the same, as per the T&C's as stated earlier...

YOUR ACCOUNT

As a registered user of the iTunes Service, you may establish an account ("Account"). Don’t reveal your Account information to anyone else. You are solely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality and security of your Account and for all activities that occur on or through your Account...
 
People are unhappy that Apple shows your entire purchase history to you and to anybody else who uses your Apple ID. That's the issue. Amazon is not an apt comparison because there isn't a compelling reason to share your Amazon ID with anyone else, as there is with your Apple ID.

Sorry, but it's exactly the same. You want to see Daddy's Amazon's purchases? Just browse on Amazon using his computer (he's already logged in).
 
iTunes can still know you bought the app while still hiding certain apps.

Exactly,

Look at the Kindle model.

If I go into my archives, I can remove any books that I purchase from showing up, with a "remove from device" option.
I can always go back to their "iTunes", the webpage and digitally download it again.

It's not rocket science, it can and has been done.
 
Sorry, but it's exactly the same. You want to see Daddy's Amazon's purchases? Just browse on Amazon using his computer (he's already logged in).

Nope, not the same. Yes, I can go look for someone else's Amazon purchases if I use their log-in. But on Amazon there is no reason for me to use their log-in when I make my purchases. That's what's different in iTunes. I understand the terms and conditions tell you otherwise, but the ability to sync so many different devices lends itself to a degree of ID sharing that is completely unnecessary in Amazon. iTunes rewards you for sharing an ID by allowing you to share purchases made on that ID. Amazon doesn't reward you this way, so there's really no reason for people to share an ID, and no penalty if they choose not to. I don't have to buy a book twice on Amazon if someone with a different log-in wants to read it. That's why they're different.

(Personally, I have no dog in this fight. I don't have any apps I want to hide from my child or spouse, and I haven't purchased enough to end up with a long unwieldy list. I'm just arguing on principle.)
 
It's true there are distinctions to be made, but my point is that Apple is doing what everyone else already does in that you can see your purchase history. It's on every store site around. So why the hate for Apple? Makes no sense to me.
 
Does anyone have apps that they did not download/try/check show up on their purchased list? I have my own apple id, I do not share it with anyone... but I have 10s of apps in that list that I did not download at all... Most of which are silly apps... My itunes purchase history on my mac shows the correct list of purchased/downloaded apps and it does not match the one on iphone...

Anyone have any idea?

yes i do,, they are called drunk app purchases you do not remember = ) lol

I had the similar comment somewhere else, and as I have replied there - I know what apps I got when I was drunk... it is not the issue. As you can see from my initial post purchase history that you can access in iTunes shows a correct list of my purchases/downloads and it does not have those random apps. The list on my iPhone does not match the history on iTunes...

I am not sure people are paying enough attention to this maybe... Everyone has some crap app downloads that they downloaded ages ago - and a bunch of random apps that they did not really download may not really stand out among other crap...
 
It's true there are distinctions to be made, but my point is that Apple is doing what everyone else already does in that you can see your purchase history. It's on every store site around. So why the hate for Apple? Makes no sense to me.

agreed, apple doesnt have to allow you to use the same user id on multiple devices but they do so now we are hammering them becasue those other devices can see what each of bought?

i thing the idea of allowing sharing IDs is for people with many iDevices and yes family but i guess to apple families should not be hiding skeletons in the closet
 
I have a question then. So for the guy who downloaded "kama Sutra" and
"1001 Positions" or the guy who has a jealous wife can they create a new Apple ID? Will they lose all the apps they have purchased? Or will they be able to install all the apps in iTunes under the new account thus removing the old "history"? IDK just a thought.
 
I have a question then. So for the guy who downloaded "kama Sutra" and
"1001 Positions" or the guy who has a jealous wife can they create a new Apple ID? Will they lose all the apps they have purchased? Or will they be able to install all the apps in iTunes under the new account thus removing the old "history"? IDK just a thought.

yes you can create another apple id. have more then one... so for those paranoid people they can have one apple id for the normal apps, and another for the embarrassing ones, lol
 
agreed, apple doesnt have to allow you to use the same user id on multiple devices but they do so now we are hammering them becasue those other devices can see what each of bought?

i thing the idea of allowing sharing IDs is for people with many iDevices and yes family but i guess to apple families should not be hiding skeletons in the closet

I think alot of people have actually just assumed the allowance of ID's across devices was for families when it wasn't. it's for people that have a home PC, a work PC, a laptop, or an iPad and an iPhone, there are people with multiple devices.

yes there's parental controls, but the idea is, you make an account for your kid, you make the password, set it all up by setting the parental controls and jobs a good'un.

technically anyone sharing an account to share apps with the family is borderline pirating them. there's a reason apps are DRM'd.

As clearly stated in the T&C's for the account:

YOUR ACCOUNT

As a registered user of the iTunes Service, you may establish an account ("Account"). Don’t reveal your Account information to anyone else. You are solely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality and security of your Account and for all activities that occur on or through your Account, and you agree to immediately notify Apple of any security breach of your Account. Apple shall not be responsible for any losses arising out of the unauthorized use of your Account.



Unless Apple has stated anywhere that Apple ID's can be shared with family, show proof and i will admit i'm wrong, otherwise it's alot of people that have just assumed incorrectly that they can share it.
 
I have a question then. So for the guy who downloaded "kama Sutra" and
"1001 Positions" or the guy who has a jealous wife can they create a new Apple ID? Will they lose all the apps they have purchased? Or will they be able to install all the apps in iTunes under the new account thus removing the old "history"? IDK just a thought.

Yup, I did that already, I think i posted it on page 4 or 5. It works fine enough, all apps, videos, and music work fine on her Phone with the new apple id, only problem is because those apps are tied to my account, you can't do any in app purchases and need my password to update.

Oh, and it's funny, the ones "defending" apple are completely blowing this out of proportion. Most people said it was annoying and something they want apple to fix or add, but then the "defenders" come in and blow things out of proportion, as though there is some kind of threat that apple must fix this or something and start personally bashing the ones who just thought it was annoying. It's also obvious the ones who didn't even read my op, I was nearly asking if it was possible, and some respond as though I was some low life defaming apple or something. :rolleyes:
 
Exactly,
People love their straw man arguments.

Apple, according to their TOS, can put the picture of your last call on your home screen when you unlock it.

That would irk plenty of people and they would ask that be changed.

Then the geniuses would come on and parrot back the TOS instead of the real argument.

Like they say in Jurassic Park, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

It's a very easy fix and the more people send the issue to Apple Support, the quicker it will get resolved.

But go ahead, quote the TOS again, that will win your argument!
 
Exactly,
People love their straw man arguments.

Apple, according to their TOS, can put the picture of your last call on your home screen when you unlock it.

That would irk plenty of people and they would ask that be changed.

Then the geniuses would come on and parrot back the TOS instead of the real argument.

Like they say in Jurassic Park, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

It's a very easy fix and the more people send the issue to Apple Support, the quicker it will get resolved.

But go ahead, quote the TOS again, that will win your argument!

whats the real arguement? its ok to hide stuff from your family?

or that its ok to share your ID with half the neighbourhood
 
Exactly,

Look at the Kindle model.

If I go into my archives, I can remove any books that I purchase from showing up, with a "remove from device" option.
I can always go back to their "iTunes", the webpage and digitally download it again.

It's not rocket science, it can and has been done.

Agreed. It is a bit perplexing to see the anger or resentment about something found on almost all devices and programs that I use and see used by others.
 
they would ask that be changed.
It's a very easy fix and the more people send the issue to Apple Support, the quicker it will get resolved.

But you miss the point, there's nothing to fix as its not a flaw from apple, it's the incorrect mindset from some people who either are cheapskates or misinterpreted the nature of the apple ID. Simply put, don't share your apple ID. Its like sharing the pin code to your credit card. You share it then it's your own fault. Deal with it.


whats the real arguement? its ok to hide stuff from your family?

or that its ok to share your ID with half the neighbourhood

Exactly.
 
But you miss the point, there's nothing to fix as its not a flaw from apple, it's the incorrect mindset from some people who either are cheapskates or misinterpreted the nature of the apple ID. Simply put, don't share your apple ID. Its like sharing the pin code to your credit card. You share it then it's your own fault. Deal with it.




Exactly.

Oh, but you missed the point, my friend.
I could care less about who sees what apps I have downloaded.
I don't want my device cluttered with the 50 + free apps my daughter purchased in my Purchased list.

It's a simple UI change and it blows my mind that people have an issue with people daring to even ask Apple to change it.
 
Oh, but you missed the point, my friend.
I could care less about who sees what apps I have downloaded.
I don't want my device cluttered with the 50 + free apps my daughter purchased in my Purchased list.

It's a simple UI change and it blows my mind that people have an issue with people daring to even ask Apple to change it.

You miss the point. You don't have to scroll thru the whole list. You can just search, as there's a spotlight search at the top of the list. That's your issue dealt with right there.
 
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