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That's great, but the simple fact is they released a product that wasn't ready. Whether it's had enough development or user feedback isn't an acceptable excuse.

It is if you don't know the reasons for the Apple/Google split.

If Apple needed/wanted to build their own mapping system (regardless of the reasons for doing so) it would never be as polished and "ready" as Google Maps UNTIL it had spent time in the hands of hundreds of millions of iOS users.

Now whether or not you think Apple should have ditched Google is another question. Since no one knows (except Google and Apple) the nature of their contract and why Apple decided to go its own way, I don't think its fair to bash Apple over taking control of one of the more important aspects of its OS.

From what I've read (and it seems entirely plausible), Google wouldn't allow Apple to use the data for certain things - though Apple built the app itself - such as turn-by-turn as to give the Android offering a competitive advantage. If that is the case (which I wouldn't fault Google for at all given their goal is to push Android and NOT iOS) then why would Apple continue to pay Google for data for a half-baked app that didn't have the functionality they wanted it to have?
 
How do you report missing places?


Also I don't get why Apple maps data is so messed up when they in fact are using TomTom maps. The data on TomTom appears correct while it is wrong in Apple maps. :confused:
 
Actually it is snappier - maybe not as accurate, but the vector-rendering is much smoother than Google Maps! ;)

Ok - but one would argue that to get the data you actually want renders maps in iOS6 not snappy because you have to do a lot of work to get the right result :)
 
1) to say its early days for Apple maps is to admit that they are offering out of date beta technology. Like offering a car without airbags.
2) maps is simply terrible. In UK not only is information missing or incorrect, but main roads are not differentiated, so a major road looks the same as a side road making route finding difficult. Many road names are not found, so direction function is useless. The satellite images of London are dark and fuzzy. And there is no street view.

Worst of all, if you update you cannot revert to ios5

Interesting to see if apple replaces my iphone 4 with one loaded with ios5 - in other words return it to the functionality present on purchase..
 
I don't think there is enough time in the day to enter all the errors I've run into up here in DC at the moment. Plus how do you enter in that the point they have for the washington momument which doesn't have and address is actually where the creapy icecream truck is always parked?
 
Have started submitting known location fixes although some of them are so bad they require 2 fixes, ie: wrong type of icon and wrong location. Will send them as i see them.
 
What could really make a difference is if Apple had a web based map version, just like Google.

A few years ago I remember correcting various nearby address locations on Google Maps online, because it was so easy to do on a laptop.

I don't know how Apple thinks they can succeed at maps without one!

If they do have one it's odd they're holding it back. This is pretty darned important if they want this to work.
 
Jordon, thank you for another helpful, sane, and detailed post!

Apple has sort of hidden the Report Problem button when you curl up the map. It's not really a button, so much as words you can click on. Maybe they should make it as obvious as the one Jordon showed for the single address until they get more bugs worked out.

Having said that, my wife and I both have 4Ss and we love the new Apple maps. We live in the US, of course, but we were both surprised at how nice it is. We initially put off installing iOS6 because of all the bad reviews. For our purposes, it's at least as good as the old app. We rarely used Street View on the iPhone.
 
Ok - but one would argue that to get the data you actually want renders maps in iOS6 not snappy because you have to do a lot of work to get the right result :)

Depends - I've had no problem in north Texas. Sure it incorrectly shows a Panda Express in the mall next to where I work. But in its defense the yellow pages lists panda express' website as the mall's Chinese restaurant's website.

:D
 
Report Problem Incentive Program

Apple needs all the help it can get so it needs to leverage it's established base of users to make this process go faster. Google Maps have had years of refinement but Apple doesn't have that luxury. They need to fix their maps very quickly because iOS Maps is replacing what was already a great experience with one that is very subpar at this moment and it involves a critical app for any smartphone.

Apple should put together a Report Problem app where users could actively search for problems in their city and for each successful correction, they'd receive iTunes credits for music, movies, tv shows and apps. Apple would quickly gather a worldwide army of eager "volunteers" to report glaring errors and it would be cost effective for Apple because they're just giving away something they already sell. It would cost them little to nothing.

To avoid malicious submissions, reports would be subject to review by other users in that city. The more submissions approved for a certain user, the more trust that user would gain and more weight would be given to their submissions. The more rejected submissions, the less influence on decisions that that user would have -- probably losing the ability to report if passing a certain threshold of rejections.

This needs to happen. Waiting years to catch up to Google is not an option. Even a year of this is too much. Maps has to improve significantly in months, not years.
 
I will do my bit. I thought being involved with apple was that there was some cult community. Lets get behind them and help!

Hazzarrrr
 
Yes, it should have been a lot more polished, but comparing Google Maps to Apples new app isn't really fair. They have had years and years to iron out problems. Not to mention that they still have their occasional glitches.
 
It’s Avenir, and it’s an absolutely lovely typeface.
I think the real problem with the typeface is that, in standard view, the roads are too thin, so the text bulges out of it. It looks kludgy. In Hybrid view, they are forced to make the road width accurate, so it gives them more space. The road titles look a LOT better in Hybrid mode.

Also, the all caps and bold usage for states, cities, and even neighborhoods is a poor design choice. Words are easier to read if they are written using normal capitalization. Some simple tweaks to their design would make the readability and thus usability a lot more acceptable.
 
Apple needs all the help it can get so it needs to leverage it's established base of users to make this process go faster. Google Maps have had years of refinement but Apple doesn't have that luxury. They need to fix their maps very quickly because iOS Maps is replacing what was already a great experience with one that is very subpar at this moment and it involves a critical app for any smartphone.

Apple should put together a Report Problem app where users could actively search for problems in their city and for each successful correction, they'd receive iTunes credits for music, movies, tv shows and apps. Apple would quickly gather a worldwide army of eager "volunteers" to report glaring errors and it would be cost effective for Apple because they're just giving away something they already sell. It would cost them little to nothing.

To avoid malicious submissions, reports would be subject to review by other users in that city. The more submissions approved for a certain user, the more trust that user would gain and more weight would be given to their submissions. The more rejected submissions, the less influence on decisions that that user would have -- probably losing the ability to report if passing a certain threshold of rejections.

This needs to happen. Waiting years to catch up to Google is not an option. Even a year of this is too much. Maps has to improve significantly in months, not years.

This is a pretty rockin' idea.
 
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